Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 Sora is, in and universe, in and out of canon, Xehanort's better in every way lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharJanny 1 Posted November 7, 2022 but time travelling is so confusing as hell, like does xehanort know about sora after the events of BBS or does he already knew about everything since the scala era, untill the event of KH3 at the keyblade graveyard?? like there is no starting point, like everything is a cycle.like if young xehanort already went through all the events during DDD untill KH3, that means his older version already forseen everything thats gonna happen, well only up to that moment where we defeated his younger version at the keyblade graveyard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 In KH, when you’re sent back to your time after time traveling you forget everything that happened. Young Xehanort spent time in the future, but he forgot all of it as soon as his heart was returned to its proper place in time.Same reason things play out with Ansem SoD and Xemnas as they do. They went to the future and learned of their fates, but as soon as they were defeated in the Keyblade Graveyard they were sent back to whenever they came from during KH1 & KH2 with no memories of the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharJanny 1 Posted November 7, 2022 oh wait i didnt know that they will forget about it, like what about maleficient? she remembered everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 The urge to say “beats me, KH magic” is strong, but I’m gonna try to think this out. Somebody with a greater understanding of KH time travel can correct me, but here’s my understanding: Only one version of person can truly exist at a single point in time. Xehanort’s other selves could temporarily manifest themselves, but he needed the replicas to give them a medium to cling to. As a consequence, those people weren’t really all there. When it comes to Maleficent, she tried to return to the past after being defeated in KH1 to change her own past. However, she fell right into a trap created by MoM designed to stop people from changing the Book of Prophecies. She arrived in a data version of Enchanted Dominion where a version of her wasn’t present, so she was able to fully manifest. I assume this is why she was able to remember what happened. While there, she meets one of the 13 Darknesses who explains the rules of time travel to her and then sends her back to the present which is the scene near the beginning of KH2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 Well look at it this wayCould be KH4, could be KH7, but sooner or later it allllll gets explained lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 We’ve been given the explicit rules and multiple examples of people time traveling. It’s just a matter of piecing it all together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 Nomura always pulls throughOn his own time in his own way but he pulls through 😅 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharJanny 1 Posted November 7, 2022 yeah things just got a bit complicated when you tryna add new lore into a story bits by bits and end up creating paradoxes along the waybut almost anygame that got time travelling is always messed up anyway.unless they use the theory from Marvel endgame, thats a safer way to avoid misunderstanding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 Square has at least put in the effort to prevent paradoxes from occurring. Could be like other IPs where it’s just a lawless free for all that results in the entire universe getting firetrucked by the Butterfly Effect.Eh. People complain about Endgame’s time travel all the timePun unintendedI think KH’s problem is that they introduced more than one way to time travel. An issue Marvel is also running into. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 At least in KH's case, unless I'm wrong, they're moving away from the way it was introduced in 3D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 At least a bit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 I wouldn’t be surprised if Missing Link involved some time travel shenanigans, so we’ll just have to see what they do there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 Oh absolutely.Besides, we're playing another create-a-protag so, they're gotta be a way they influence the plot but dieWhat better way then, as TV Tropes calls it, "flinging a light into the future."again lmao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leamax_1559862996 15 Posted November 7, 2022 https://tenor.com/view/love-and-monsters-doctor-who-dr-who-tumblr-tardis-gif-21669006 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 nooooooooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 We already know Missing Link Player is the cloaked figure who raises Xehanort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94_1642611873 11 Posted November 7, 2022 ... what?Ohh wait you're right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharJanny 1 Posted November 7, 2022 the ML player is also the same union cross player right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 Player dies at the end of UX, chooses to have their heart melted into a new one (essentially reincarnation), and is born as Missing Link Player Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharJanny 1 Posted November 7, 2022 damn keyblade wielders in KH world really are immortalunless, our player has actually reach the level of a keyblade master Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 Player was most definitely not a master. I don’t think they were even selected to be a Dandelion, just brought along by Ephemer.Ephemer would go on to be considered “The original Keyblade Master” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharJanny 1 Posted November 7, 2022 yes the first master of scala Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellboundOrc 2 Posted November 7, 2022 Death in KH is just as confusing as time travel honestly.Quite an impressive feat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurayami Ryu_1667815247 0 Posted November 7, 2022 I know that I'm late to it, but I beat the Dean Challenge at Level 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites