Stefan93 172 Posted July 21, 2013 Every week or so, I learn something new pertaining to the KH series that completely blows my mind all over the carpet. Here are some of the realizations I've had recently: -Roxas wields two keyblades since he's an amalgamation of Sora and Ventus. -The members of the original Organization had the letter X implemented in their names so they were kept track of. -The worlds represent the specks of light scattered throughout the darkness. -The Kingdom Key shares the same color palette as Riku, given that he was originally the one to wield it. And people wonder why I love KH so much! 2 Cucco and Zola reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Protagonist 332 Posted July 21, 2013 You,know I never reliazed any of this. 1 Stefan93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zola 3,038 Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) I never though of the color pallet thing. That actually makes sense. Now, why is Mickey's just the opposite? Edited July 21, 2013 by Zola 1 Stefan93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cucco 1,907 Posted July 21, 2013 I didn't know any of those except the first one 1 Stefan93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juma086 263 Posted July 21, 2013 Every week or so, I learn something new pertaining to the KH series that completely blows my mind all over the carpet. Here are some of the realizations I've had recently: -Roxas wields two keyblades since he's an amalgamation of Sora and Ventus. -The members of the original Organization had the letter X implemented in their names so they were kept track of. -The worlds represent the specks of light scattered throughout the darkness. -The Kingdom Key shares the same color palette as Riku, given that he was originally the one to wield it. And people wonder why I love KH so much! I actually didn't know any of this, haha. I guess you really do learn something new everyday. 1 Stefan93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalReckoning 1,135 Posted July 21, 2013 got the first one, and the third one always made sense but still, talk about descrete hidden meanings behind simple things lol 1 Stefan93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awesomeness12 6 Posted July 21, 2013 Not to crush you theory of Roxas and Ventus, but if you've played 358/2 Days, you will realize that Roxas doesn't weild two keyblades until Xion Dies. This implies that he weilds two keyblades because one is his, and since Xion is (or at least, was) a replica of Roxas in order to duplicate the Keyblade, the other belongs to Xion.Now, as for your theory on the color palette thing, I find it quite interesting. I've never thought of that before."Very good. You don't miss a thing." -Xemnas 1 Stefan93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan93 172 Posted July 21, 2013 I never though of the color pallet thing.That actually makes sense.Now, why is Mickey's just the opposite? yeah, it's one of those design-based easter eggs lol I'm not quite sure, either it's supposed to mirror Sora's (since Sora is the lead Square Enix protagonist, and Mickey is the lead Disney protagonist), or simply the colors of Mickey's keyblade reflect his original Walt Disney-given appearance (the red pants, the white gloves, the yellow shoes). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moni_22 335 Posted July 21, 2013 -Roxas wields two keyblades since he's an amalgamation of Sora and Ventus. -The members of the original Organization had the letter X implemented in their names so they were kept track of. -The worlds represent the specks of light scattered throughout the darkness. -The Kingdom Key shares the same color palette as Riku, given that he was originally the one to wield it. I pretty much noticed everyone. One of those few times when you wondered about everything and noticed some things you haven't noticed before Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted July 21, 2013 Not to crush you theory of Roxas and Ventus, but if you've played 358/2 Days, you will realize that Roxas doesn't weild two keyblades until Xion Dies. This implies that he weilds two keyblades because one is his, and since Xion is (or at least, was) a replica of Roxas in order to duplicate the Keyblade, the other belongs to Xion.Now, as for your theory on the color palette thing, I find it quite interesting. I've never thought of that before."Very good. You don't miss a thing." -Xemnas Actually, Xion's Keyblade is in fact a sham. In actuality, Xion was holding Ven's heart, hence her ability to feel emotions. Or, at least, Ven's ability to weidl a Keyblade. Now, as Roxas had Sora's ability to wield a Keyblade already, that wasn't impeded. When Xion died and returned to Roxas, Ven's Keyblade was unlocked for Roxas. This actually is the reason Roxas has two Keyblades. and, on a greater note, why Sora can weild two Keyblades once Roxas returns to him. Not 100% accurate, but accurate enough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zola 3,038 Posted July 21, 2013 Actually, Xion's Keyblade is in fact a sham. In actuality, Xion was holding Ven's heart, hence her ability to feel emotions. Or, at least, Ven's ability to weidl a Keyblade. Now, as Roxas had Sora's ability to wield a Keyblade already, that wasn't impeded. When Xion died and returned to Roxas, Ven's Keyblade was unlocked for Roxas. This actually is the reason Roxas has two Keyblades. and, on a greater note, why Sora can weild two Keyblades once Roxas returns to him. Not 100% accurate, but accurate enough Beat me to it. They're Sora's and Ventus' keyblades. Where is Flaming Lea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awesomeness12 6 Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) Actually, Xion's Keyblade is in fact a sham. In actuality, Xion was holding Ven's heart, hence her ability to feel emotions. Or, at least, Ven's ability to weidl a Keyblade. Now, as Roxas had Sora's ability to wield a Keyblade already, that wasn't impeded. When Xion died and returned to Roxas, Ven's Keyblade was unlocked for Roxas. This actually is the reason Roxas has two Keyblades. and, on a greater note, why Sora can weild two Keyblades once Roxas returns to him. Not 100% accurate, but accurate enough Well, technically both hypotheses could be correct:Roxas has Sora's KeybladeXion has Ventus's KeybladeRoxas can weild Sora's and Ventus's Keyblade - or -Sora's Keyblade is Roxas's KeybladeVentus's Keyblade is Xion's KebladeThe first Keyblade is Roxas's, and the second is Xion'sI guess it's just how you word it. Edited July 21, 2013 by Awesomeness12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zola 3,038 Posted July 21, 2013 Well, technically both hypotheses could be correct: Roxas has Sora's Keyblade Xion has Ventus's Keyblade Roxas can weild Sora's and Ventus's Keyblade - or - Sora's Keyblade is Roxas's Keyblade Ventus's Keyblade is Xion's Keblade The first Keyblade is Roxas's, and the second is Xion's I guess it's just how you word it. Yeah. If you are really into the details, you should go through and read all of the Nomura Interviews. He actually confirms and/or invalidates some theories and clarifies a ton of stuff that isn't really addressed in the games. EXTREMELY helpful. http://kh13.com/interviews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SHAZOW 269 Posted July 21, 2013 Every week or so, I learn something new pertaining to the KH series that completely blows my mind all over the carpet. Here are some of the realizations I've had recently:-Roxas wields two keyblades since he's an amalgamation of Sora and Ventus.-The members of the original Organization had the letter X implemented in their names so they were kept track of.-The worlds represent the specks of light scattered throughout the darkness.-The Kingdom Key shares the same color palette as Riku, given that he was originally the one to wield it.And people wonder why I love KH so much!Everything commects and it makes so much sense. Nomura is puting so much thought in the Kingdom Hearts series that I still don't think everything (and every little thing) has been figured out by fans yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connected 978 Posted July 21, 2013 Seriously am i the only one who knew this :$ / Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zola 3,038 Posted July 21, 2013 Seriously am i the only one who knew this :$ /No. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 21, 2013 Not to crush you theory of Roxas and Ventus, but if you've played 358/2 Days, you will realize that Roxas doesn't weild two keyblades until Xion Dies. This implies that he weilds two keyblades because one is his, and since Xion is (or at least, was) a replica of Roxas in order to duplicate the Keyblade, the other belongs to Xion. Now, as for your theory on the color palette thing, I find it quite interesting. I've never thought of that before. "Very good. You don't miss a thing." -Xemnas Actually, Xion's Keyblade is in fact a sham. In actuality, Xion was holding Ven's heart, hence her ability to feel emotions. Or, at least, Ven's ability to weidl a Keyblade. Now, as Roxas had Sora's ability to wield a Keyblade already, that wasn't impeded. When Xion died and returned to Roxas, Ven's Keyblade was unlocked for Roxas. This actually is the reason Roxas has two Keyblades. and, on a greater note, why Sora can weild two Keyblades once Roxas returns to him. Not 100% accurate, but accurate enough Xion's keyblade was fake. This is confirmed by Nomura and in game by Riku himself . Also Xion did not hold Ven's heart, Roxas did . Quote Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora's memories to be restored, both Sora's Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody? Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn't think that she was Sora or Kairi's Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that's why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn't really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody. Roxas wields Sora's keyblade and Ven's . When Xion dies , the emotional trauma was able to awaken Ven's keyblade inside Roxas. Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?* A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus. This doesn't get any clearer then this. Roxas who is literally Sora's body was affected by Ventus's heart. Since the heart shapes the vessel Sora's body was molded to look like Ventus as his heart remained in Sora's body. Had Ven's heart not been present Roxas would have looked like Sora not Ven. Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?* A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once, Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. Again if Roxas did not have Ven's heart he would have no means to access Ven's keyblade. Nomura: Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a “heart” to be able to wield one. So strictly speaking, they are being influenced by Sora. Beat me to it. They're Sora's and Ventus' keyblades. Where is Flaming Lea Here I am 2 Demyx. and Zola reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terraforce777 19 Posted July 22, 2013 I understood most of those except the Ksyblade being bases on Riku's color palette. But why isn't it the same for Mickey I wonder... Also, if Roxas' keyblades are Sora's and Centus', who's keyblades are Sora's when he dualworlds? I know the interview quote above^^^ states Sora uses Ventus' and his own, but didnt it say somewhere that the only reason Sora could wield a keyblade because of Ventus, implying that his own keyblade was Ventus'??? So where does the second one come from? I'm confused! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 22, 2013 I understood most of those except the Ksyblade being bases on Riku's color palette. But why isn't it the same for Mickey I wonder...Also, if Roxas' keyblades are Sora's and Centus', who's keyblades are Sora's when he dualworlds? I know the interview quote above^^^ states Sora uses Ventus' and his own, but didnt it say somewhere that the only reason Sora could wield a keyblade because of Ventus, implying that his own keyblade was Ventus'??? So where does the second one come from? I'm confused! Sora uses his own and Ventus' when he dual wields - same as Roxas. Nomura stated that Sora was always destined to wield and that the only thing Ven's heart gives him is the ability to dual wield . If anything, Ven's heart might have just sped the process up. It was never said that Ven was the sole reason he could wield - that's just an assumption made by some people. 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terraforce777 19 Posted July 22, 2013 Sora uses his own and Ventus' when he dual wields - same as Roxas. Nomura stated that Sora was always destined to wield and that the only thing Ven's heart gives him is the ability to dual wield . If anything, Ven's heart might have just sped the process up. It was never said that Ven was the sole reason he could wield - that's just an assumption made by some people.Wow Lea. You DO know everything. Thanks. You will always be my third favorite KH character of all time (sorry, Roxas and Riku take higher priority ;P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 22, 2013 Wow Lea. You DO know everything. Thanks. You will always be my third favorite KH character of all time (sorry, Roxas and Riku take higher priority ;P hahahah Everyone has their favorites Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VeNate13 144 Posted July 22, 2013 Xion's keyblade was fake. This is confirmed by Nomura and in game by Riku himself . Also Xion did not hold Ven's heart, Roxas did . Quote Roxas wields Sora's keyblade and Ven's . When Xion dies , the emotional trauma was able to awaken Ven's keyblade inside Roxas. Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?* A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus. This doesn't get any clearer then this. Roxas who is literally Sora's body was affected by Ventus's heart. Since the heart shapes the vessel Sora's body was molded to look like Ventus as his heart remained in Sora's body. Had Ven's heart not been present Roxas would have looked like Sora not Ven. Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?* A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once, Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. Again if Roxas did not have Ven's heart he would have no means to access Ven's keyblade. Nomura: Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a “heart” to be able to wield one. So strictly speaking, they are being influenced by Sora. Here I am Wait, wasn't Sora using his keyblade in CO at the same time Roxas was using his. It makes no sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 22, 2013 Wait, wasn't Sora using his keyblade in CO at the same time Roxas was using his. It makes no sense. They shared the power .When one was using the keyblade the other wasn't . Nomura explained this. Xion, Roxas ,and Sora all affected each other which is why there was a lot of fainting and sleeping going on throughout this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jorrell3946 70 Posted July 22, 2013 All of these things will probably be brought up again when KHIII gets more news in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrinceNoctis 1,011 Posted July 23, 2013 I didn't know the thing about the worlds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites