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I'm seeing your point here LOL

Something interesting to think about: according to Nomura, at the time of the finale of KH2, Xemnas is the most powerful being in the universe. So how, then, does Sora, our dull, ordinary boy, manage to beat such a behemoth? Cynics would give the answer that Sora wins because the plot compels him: he's the hero, ergo he must win. But I don't think we need to resort to a meta reading of the story to find an answer. Sora wins in the end because he has Riku. And again, let's not get carried away with that assessment: it is my humble opinion that Riku isn't the most powerful, nor is he more of a hero than Sora. What matters here is that Sora won because he brought a friend.

 

Why does this matter? Well, consider this: What if Organization XIII hadn't been constantly undermined by personal agenda, power lust, and back biting? What if they had not only worked together well, but if they had even gone so far as to form friendships? Consider how much power is in play within the Organization: Vexen and Zexion are both geniuses, Marluxia has a ton of power in his corner, Axel is a master of spying and subterfuge, Saix has great (pardon the pun) organizing skills, and Xemnas is the most powerful being in the world. What could they have amounted to if they had not chosen to spend their time in backstabbing and manipulation, and if they had managed to work together for a period of time to finally complete their goals? Or, better yet, what if they had become actual friends, bound by more than immediate convenience?

 

Chances are, all the kerfuffel that occurred at Castle Oblivion would have been avoided, their ranks would have not been thinned, and they could have managed al their resources together and actually achieved their goals. As it is, however, they were each so concerned with their own selfish desires that they couldn't bring themselves to actually form an Organization. And thus, one by one, they were able to be picked off.

 

Now, consider Sora. His best friend in the world betrayed him, threw him under the bus, tried to kill him, and then tried to abet in the destruction of the universe. Sora has every selfish reason to flip off Riku and go on on his own. But what he does, instead, is to recognize that his friend has made some mistakes, and that he's trying to come back. Sora doesn't shut out the concept of friendship in order to satisfy his own ego and desires. Sora has an understanding of humanity that eludes the Nobodies: he gets the concept of real emotion, real love, which, of course, the Organization cannot percieve. And thus, rather than let Riku slink off to feel sorry for himself, Sora makes sure that he understands that he's still welcome, and that he still has friends on the other side. 

 

Thus, when it comes down to the final duel, Sora isn't standing alone to face Xemnas: Riku is there with him. And though it might seem almost unfair to have 2 vs. 1. consider this: had Xemnas chosen, it could have been 2 vs. 13. But Xemnas, and the other members of the Organization, were blind to the real powers of Sora and his friends, and that's why, in the end, they lost.

Sora would have died multiple times during the last fight with Xemnas, anyway. What with the death grip he had him in, the millions of lasers they had to reflect... Actually I remember failing many times in both fights as a kid. Didn't know both characters had to block and I kept on getting hit by Xemnas's shield when I tried to rescue Sora lol.If Riku wasn't in Castle Oblivion then Sora probably would have been lost forever in there, as the Riku Replica pushed Sora forward to beat the Organisation, and Riku was distracted/Eliminating the underground members. I think it's a combination of their rivalry and friendship which allows them to overcome so many obstacles together.

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Funny how you left out the genius of Xigbar seeing as how he's arguably the smartest one.

Well in DDD he fought alone to him.

It was mayby that Xemnas was weaker or Sora was more stronger.

Well in DDD he fought alone to him.

It was mayby that Xemnas was weaker or Sora was more stronger.

In DDD I highly doubt Xemnas was getting powered by an artificial kingdom hearts. So...Xemnas was weaker.Nice thread, and I do agree with the Org losing for a lack of teamwork. (And that having an ally was the biggest reason for Sora winning) And they also lost because they kept on antagonizing Sora in KH II. I mean they practically lured him to their home base (mostly because how they dealt with Axel's choice) when they could have just kept letting him "fix" messes. And then by the time Riku or MIckey finally would tell Sora what he needed to do, it probably would have already been too late.

Well in DDD he fought alone to him.

It was mayby that Xemnas was weaker or Sora was more stronger.

 Well in DDD you forget that Xemnas was only trying to tire Sora, not go all out . He wasn't giving it his all on purpose to lull him into a deeper sleep.

 Well in DDD you forget that Xemnas was only trying to tire Sora, not go all out . He wasn't giving it his all on purpose to lull him into a deeper sleep.

Yeh that might be probably the reason.

That is why Sora was captured.

Not to mention Roxas and Xion had no particular personal agendas, nor grudges against particular members, and were perfectly willing to cooperate with the Organization's plans.  If Organization actually treated them like welcomed members instead of keyblade-wielding tools and/or Replicas for them to use, they wouldn't have needed to lift a finger to keep Sora out of the picture.  Riku, DiZ, Mickey, and maybe even Namine would've made that difficult, but Roxas and Xion would have had no need to leave to seek out the truth.  Roxas's loyalty, at least, turned sour because the Organization kept him in the dark with just about everything.  Chances are, if the Organization truly cared for each other, and were more up front about their motivations, then Roxas and Xion would've stayed and fought alongside them of their own loyalty and volition.  Maybe they could have believed what the Organization told them about their mysterious pasts if they ever questioned it.

 

So yeah, Xemnas was doing it wrong.

You know the part of the final battle where the millions of lasers come flying your way never made sense to me. In these kind of situations you usually have to spam the X or whatever action button like crazy, how was I supposed to know that you tap it at a mere medium-slow pace if I'm not to be hurt by them?!

 

Made Data Xemnas a freakin' nightmare untill I figured it out...

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