Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Now, Flaming lea has already provided evidence debunking this theory, namely that Nomura specifically said this wasn't the case but I felt this theory was too good to share, even if it is wrong.What’s the meaning behind the several puzzling images in Terra’s chapter where we cross over into his mind?"Firstly, when he hears the name of the masked boy from Master Xehanort at the mysterious wasteland, and we see an image of Aqua and Ventus defeated, that’s a hint of the future. On Destiny Islands, when he makes Riku his successor, he has a special view of him and catches a glimpse of his future. However, this isn’t to say that Terra has the ability to see the future—it was a directive nuance intended to portray the future connection between Terra and Riku." -BbS UltimaniaSo while replaying BbS, I remembered that there are hints toward Terra having some kind of precognitive power, the ability to see glimpses of the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C2OiE3T9lX4As seen heart Terra seems to get a vision of the events at Keyblade Graveyard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mncdm144uUUHere it appears that he gets another glimpse of the future.Now for Xehanort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BYzaeOQ7ayMAs seen here young Xehanort says that even though he'll forget his journey through time, these events will lead him down the destined path, after all, CoM, KHII, Days, Re;coded and 3D all show that memories never really disappear completely.So, while Terra may not have precognition, what if Xehanort has some form of pseudo-precognition in which his memories of this travels through time occasionally surface, giving him glimpses of the future that seem like visions? This would explain how he's been able to plan for every possible contingency. Add in the Book of Prophecy, and it's no wonder he's always been one step ahead.But if that's the case, this may be how he finally fails once and for all. Young Xehanort said "It is the future that lies beyond my sight" His visions only lead up to the climax of 3D, meaning in KH III, Master Xehanort won't be able to rely on them and so he won't be able to form any more back-up plans. Unless he gets/has the Book of Prophecy, he can't see the future anymore. Edited February 13, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno 4 AlixtheMagi13, Ruby Rose, Official Bowtie Artist and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted February 13, 2015 I really like the theory that Young Xehanort experiencing future events are what let him know, even just subconsciously, things that are going to happen and allow him to formulate his absurd future plans around that. That actually makes the whole time travel thing almost kind of make sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 13, 2015 Theory: Nomura is just bullshit ting his way through the story because he has no idea where to go with it anymore and made this plot destroying minaserey. Seriously though, I doubt he has precondition. If he did he could have expected Aqua attacking him in the final episode and thus been able to prepare better for it. Having his body run around memoryless likely wasn't the plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Theory: Nomura is just bullshit ting his way through the story because he has no idea where to go with it anymore and made this plot destroying minaserey.Seriously though, I doubt he has precondition. If he did he could have expected Aqua attacking him in the final episode and thus been able to prepare better for it. Having his body run around memoryless likely wasn't the plan. That's not a theory, that's a fact. lolJust because he may have precognition doesn't necessarily mean he'd be able to control it though. He may not be able to pick and choose the visions he gets or when they come. Edited February 13, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Rose 8,591 Posted February 13, 2015 Despite seeing the end of the game, Terra was unable to prevent it from happening In fact, his actions caused it to directly happen That's So Raven Terra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 13, 2015 Even though this is a really sound theory I'm more inclined to believe that Nomura simply writes this shit by the seat of his pants.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 13, 2015 Even though this is a really sound theory I'm more inclined to believe that Nomura simply writes this shit by the seat of his pants.. He does, but he still does his best to tie things together retroactively. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 13, 2015 He does, but he still does his best to tie things together retroactively. He does, but he still does his best to tie things together retroactively.Sometimes most times he is happy to retcon stuff lol. But like I said I like this theory it is really good.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSmashDrake 48 Posted February 13, 2015 Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I think its 100% possible, especially as the visions can't be controlled. So it shows why some things Xehanort was prepared for and others he wasn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted February 13, 2015 ...isn't it basically confirmed Xehanort has the Tome of Prophecy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 15, 2015 ...isn't it basically confirmed Xehanort has the Tome of Prophecy? Not at all, it's only been mentioned once, by Maleficent, so it could be anywhere. Xehanort might have it, but then so could Yen Sid or it could just be lost somewhere in one of the realms. We have no clue what happened to it after the Keyblade war. though I do think he at least read it during his studies since he keeps quoting that last line. That may actually be what stared awakening the time-travel memories, or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted February 15, 2015 Not at all, it's only been mentioned once, by Maleficent, so it could be anywhere. Xehanort might have it, but then so could Yen Sid or it could just be lost somewhere in one of the realms. We have no clue what happened to it after the Keyblade war. though I do think he at least read it during his studies since he keeps quoting that last line. That may actually be what stared awakening the time-travel memories, or not. what about Braig commenting on how Xehanort seems like he can see into the future? And aren't there even more hints in KHX? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) what about Braig commenting on how Xehanort seems like he can see into the future? And aren't there even more hints in KHX? That can also feed into my precognition theory though. Besides, what Braig actually said is that it seems like he can see into peoples minds. Also, that scene is before 3D, when Xehanort could still tell what was going to happen. And there is no mention of Xehanort at all in chi. Yet. That guy in the black coat could be anyone. yeah there are some hints that he's tied to it, but hints are sometimes red herrings, meant to intentionally mislead the audience, so you cant really rely on them. Edited February 15, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted February 15, 2015 That can also feed into my precognition theory though. Besides, what Braig actually said is that it seems like he can see into peoples minds. Also, that scene is before 3D, when Xehanort could still tell what was going to happen. And there is no mention of Xehanort at all in chi. Yet. That guy in the black coat could be anyone. yeah there are some hints that he's tied to it, but hints are sometimes red herrings, meant to intentionally mislead the audience, so you cant really rely on them. I'm just saying, there's more credence that a book that lets you see the future is the reason that Xehanort can see the future, not some as of yet unexplored ability to jsut see the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) I'm just saying, there's more credence that a book that lets you see the future is the reason that Xehanort can see the future, not some as of yet unexplored ability to jsut see the future. True, but if he had the Book of Prophecy, why would he not be able to see what's going to happen after 3D? Edited February 15, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted February 15, 2015 True, but if he had the Book of Prophecy, why would he not be able to see what's going to happen after 3D? what makes you say he can't? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) what makes you say he can't? When Sora was falling into darkness, Young Xehanort said "It is the future which lies beyond my sight."i would think that if the elder Xehanort had the Book, we would have shared the knowledge goof the coming events with his younger self, to put yet more plans in motion and ensure his success, he's going to forget it all anyway, so why not? Edited February 15, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted February 15, 2015 When Sora was falling into darkness, Young Xehanort said "It is the future which lies beyond my sight."i would think that if the elder Xehanort had the Book, we would have shared the knowledge goof the coming events with his younger self, to put yet more plans in motion and ensure his success, he's going to forget it all anyway, so why not? Young Xehanort isn't the one who can see the future, the Xehanort pulling the strings is (presumably old Xehanort) Young Xehanort is doomed to do things without understanding why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Young Xehanort isn't the one who can see the future, the Xehanort pulling the strings is (presumably old Xehanort) Young Xehanort is doomed to do things without understanding why That still doesn't answer my question, just avoids it. Young Xehanort knew what his elder selfs plans for Sora and the Seeker were, likely because he told himself. Why then woudl he not tell himself what happens beyond that point so he can carry out even more orders? My theory states that Xehanort, and all incarnations of him, only have this power because of the events of 3D and thus, can only see the future up to that point. Edited February 15, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted February 15, 2015 That still doesn't answer my question, just avoids it. Young Xehanort knew what his elder selfs plans for Sora and the Seeker were, likely because he told himself. Why then woudl he not tell himself what happens beyond that point so he can carry out even more orders? My theory states that Xehanort, and all incarnations of him, only have this power because of the events of 3D and thus, can only see the future up to that point. It's not avoiding it. Young Xehanrot isn't the one who knows the future, he's just told what to do by another Xehanort. He himself can't see the future, and his failure was almost definitely part of Xehanort's plans for going forward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites