JustRob

I have this game for the 3DS, but I can't get through it. I tried several times, but I just don't like it much.
 
But ofcourse everyone says the story of this game is absolutely essential to even understand Kingdom Hearts 3, so... Anyone know a good place to read up on the story? 

Personally I hope Roxas is among them. Lea is already pure fanservice to Axel fans, might as well go a step further and let Ventus sleep forever while Roxas takes his place. Besides, between the two of them, Roxas came first (not chronologically, but whatever), and he's more badass.

As far as I know half the stuff is just symbolism. The part where Riku is standing in the water in his Dark Mode and reaching out to Sora never happened in the game as far as I know.

Using shotlocks and mashing the x-button worked for me, thanks guys

Honestly, what the hell is wrong with this guy? Are you seriously pretending that other Disney movies of that time are NOT about singing? Did you forget A WHOLE NEW WORLD or FRIEND LIKE ME? Every Disney movie had the songs.
 
How many songs were there in Atlantica in KH1? That's right, 0. 
 
Just because they went a different road with KHII doesn't mean Atlantica is bad. I for one enjoyed Atlantica in KH1, because it was a refreshing change from the regular running around. Swimming around was cool, even though the controls needed to get used to.
 
I really hope Agrabah and Atlantica return in KHIII. 

Well I like his outfit from KHII too. But I also liked his outfit from KH, and yet I didn't mind when his clothes were replaced in KHII.
 
That's why I think new clothes can be a good thing, as long as they're cool. If we get another set of cool new clothes, people won't mind losing the cool KHII clothes.

Since we have a best line topic, why not a worst line? I know I can think of one:
 
Sora: Just give it a rest! You're Nobodies! You don't even exist! You're not sad about anything!
 
This line made me lose a great deal of respect for Sora and to be honest I thought he was a dumb little ****. What the hell does he know? He's obviously short-sighted as s**t and seems to attack whoever the hell he wants without very good reasons. "YOU'RE NOBODIES, YOU BAD, ME GOOD. I KILL YOU."

Originally, the setup for Kingdom Hearts was Disney mixed with Final Fantasy.
 
I'd really love to see some more FF character in KHIII. All the handheld titles have been lacking in this department.
 
Personally I would love to see Barret and Vincent. I think it would be really cool if they played a part in the story and maybe we could fight them in the Coliseum or something.

Since we have a best line topic, why not a worst line? I know I can think of one:
 
Sora: Just give it a rest! You're Nobodies! You don't even exist! You're not sad about anything!
 
This line made me lose a great deal of respect for Sora and to be honest I thought he was a dumb little ****. What the hell does he know? He's obviously short-sighted as s**t and seems to attack whoever the hell he wants without very good reasons. "YOU'RE NOBODIES, YOU BAD, ME GOOD. I KILL YOU."

As far as I know half the stuff is just symbolism. The part where Riku is standing in the water in his Dark Mode and reaching out to Sora never happened in the game as far as I know.

Oh so I gotta keep three savegames in order to get the most out of each world. That's not inconvenient at all!
 
 
I never said anything about Coded, I never played Coded, so I can't say anything about it. I did play 358/2 Days and I liked the story, characters, and battle system more then this game's.

I get that, and that's fine, except here the minigames are annoying as shit and nearly impossible to beat. This game is basically telling you "You suck dude, go spend some more time playing this minigame over and over". Also up until now it has never been mandatory, but now I actually need to complete this world in order to move on.
 
Don't get me wrong, one of the main reasons I love KH is because of the Disney characters. But you know what's the difference between this game and KH1? In KH1 they were actually DOING something. Maleficent was conspiring with Jafar and Ursula and Oogie Boogie and Hades and that was actually interesting and exciting to see. Each one of their boss battles was huge and exciting as well. Up to fighting Genie Jafar and Giant Ursula, it was always a huge thrill.
 
This game, what happens? I enter Snow White's world, huge expectations, this gotta be awesome right? Well, not really. You get sent out to murder Snow White, decide to refuse, and then you fight... The mirror? World complete, move on now plz. What happened here? What happened to the Dwarves (you know how the movie is called Snow White and the SEVEN DWARVES?). What happened to the queen transforming into a witch and giving Snow White a poisonous apple? If you're going to say I have to wait for the playthrough with the next character, just stop and shoot me instead.

I get that, and that's fine, except here the minigames are annoying as shit and nearly impossible to beat. This game is basically telling you "You suck dude, go spend some more time playing this minigame over and over". Also up until now it has never been mandatory, but now I actually need to complete this world in order to move on.
 
Don't get me wrong, one of the main reasons I love KH is because of the Disney characters. But you know what's the difference between this game and KH1? In KH1 they were actually DOING something. Maleficent was conspiring with Jafar and Ursula and Oogie Boogie and Hades and that was actually interesting and exciting to see. Each one of their boss battles was huge and exciting as well. Up to fighting Genie Jafar and Giant Ursula, it was always a huge thrill.
 
This game, what happens? I enter Snow White's world, huge expectations, this gotta be awesome right? Well, not really. You get sent out to murder Snow White, decide to refuse, and then you fight... The mirror? World complete, move on now plz. What happened here? What happened to the Dwarves (you know how the movie is called Snow White and the SEVEN DWARVES?). What happened to the queen transforming into a witch and giving Snow White a poisonous apple? If you're going to say I have to wait for the playthrough with the next character, just stop and shoot me instead.

I know right? Whenever I listen to her sing it gives me goosebumps!

Wow, really? Dude, Jodi Benson is a GODDESS. Her voice is amazing, I seriously don't understand how you can not like it.
 
Some of the songs in KHII were wrong for her voice though. Like Swim This Way, the fast singing, it just doesn't fit in. Part Of Your World & Under The Sea were amazing though. Up where they walk, up where they run, up where they stay all day in the sun!
 
That was just the fun side of it. Exploring. I loved exploring Atlantica, it was so visually beautiful. They've really done the movie justice with the whole atmosphere. But yeah, I can see it getting annoying after a while. Personally I thought the battles were a bit difficult to keep track of.

Have you guys ever seen The Little Mermaid TV show? I have all the episodes, and most of them are on YouTube. Each and every episode is a story of its own, and there's also some cool villains that come along that are actually threatening. If they're going to include Atlantica again, I'd say they could definitely take a page from the TV show. Hell, they could even include Urchin, Ariel's merboy friend from the series. Although Sora has pretty much filled that gap himself, so that might make him unnecessary.

Well they still have The Little Mermaid II to work with, if they're going to include Atlantica again they could tell the story of Melody, or they make an alternative story around Melody like they did with Ariel in KH1.

Wow, what is wrong with you people? Didn't you ever see The Little Mermaid as a kid? Didn't you ever sing along to the amazing songs in it?
 
Let's talk Atlantica KH1. Yes the controls were difficult to get used to, but how could you not love that world? It had the greatest atmosphere, the greatest music, the most vivid artwork and the most colorful characters.
 
I can't understand how people can like a world such as Deep Jungle over Atlantica. Really? It's just a bland jungle, the characters are boring, the main character doesn't even speak, nor do any of the gorillas.
 
And what about this Pixar shit? This isn't a mix of Final Fantasy and Pixar, it's a mix of Final Fantasy and Disney. Finding Nemo? Wall-E? Madagascar? Really? I hope to God they never include any of this in Kingdom Hearts.
 
You know why I loved Kingdom Hearts? Because it allowed me to go on an adventure and explore the Disney worlds I had seen in my childhood, and have loved ever since. Agrabah was amazing, Wonderland was original, and for me Atlantica was just magical. Monstro was less appealing to me, Halloween Town had just the right atmosphere, Neverland was once again amazing. But Deep Jungle? I really cared least for that world in the first KH.
 
Kingdom Hearts II brought a few good new ones to the table (minus Space Paranoids, what the hell), but ruined the old ones. It wasn't just Atlantica that sucked, it was also Agrabah and Halloween Town. KHII in general just had a lot of disappointments.
 
But I don't see all this as a reason to exclude Atlantica from future installments. I think if they rework the controls and expand the world it's gonna be amazing. And yes music is a part of that too, The Little Mermaid was a musical movie. If you didn't like Part Of Your World or Under The Sea in KHII you've either never seen the movie or you hated it. I agree that the other songs weren't that good, but these two were amazing, even if that's not enough for an Atlantica world.

Personally, I thought Atlantica was the greatest world the original Kingdom Hearts offered. It introduced a whole new way of combat and movement, and you really had to think in four directions most of the times. I'm also a huge fan of The Little Mermaid and the characters, especially King Triton.
 
Which brings me to the question why there has been so little love for Atlantica since the first game.
 
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories: Triton makes no appearance, whole story is lame and worst of all, Sora Donald & Goofy do not turn into their aquatic forms.
 
Re:Chain of Memories: Exact same problem, and also no voice acting (which goes for most of Re:CoM btw)
 
Kingdom Hearts II: While I love the "Under the Sea" performance from Sora, Ariel, and Sebastian, the rest of it was just lame. Seriously, what the hell?
 
And since then it never made an appearance again. We've had 365/8 Days, Birth By Sleep, Coded, now Dream Drop Distance, no Atlantica at all, in none of them.
 
Why is there so little love for this amazing world under the sea?

Personally, I thought Atlantica was the greatest world the original Kingdom Hearts offered. It introduced a whole new way of combat and movement, and you really had to think in four directions most of the times. I'm also a huge fan of The Little Mermaid and the characters, especially King Triton.
 
Which brings me to the question why there has been so little love for Atlantica since the first game.
 
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories: Triton makes no appearance, whole story is lame and worst of all, Sora Donald & Goofy do not turn into their aquatic forms.
 
Re:Chain of Memories: Exact same problem, and also no voice acting (which goes for most of Re:CoM btw)
 
Kingdom Hearts II: While I love the "Under the Sea" performance from Sora, Ariel, and Sebastian, the rest of it was just lame. Seriously, what the hell?
 
And since then it never made an appearance again. We've had 365/8 Days, Birth By Sleep, Coded, now Dream Drop Distance, no Atlantica at all, in none of them.
 
Why is there so little love for this amazing world under the sea?