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Ventus_ got a reaction from xxClouDxxmoon in Editorial: Ranking Kingdom Hearts III Disney Worlds - Worst To Best
First announced in 2013's E3 event, Kingdom Hearts III had the longest developing period of the several installments in the franchise due, for the most part, to Square Enix's decision to change game engines.
Some frustration grew, but the excitement never waned as the anticipated release date spanned from 2017 to 2018.
Of course, for many, the most anticipated element in a Kingdom Hearts game is the roster of Disney inspired worlds; what films will be used and how the films’ plots will be incorporated into the Kingdom Hearts plot, utilize characters and locations from the film, the role of protagonists Sora, Donald and Goofy and more.
After several years of the franchise containing the same roster with revamps to the extent the films allow, at last, in January 2019, Kingdom Hearts III was released with an almost all-new roster of Disney worlds, and the debut of Pixar inspired worlds.
Is it enough, though? Do the new worlds introduced in Kingdom Hearts III live up to the anticipation?
Here I’ve ranked the Disney worlds of Kingdom Hearts III from worst to best to best.
1. Arendelle (Frozen)
The biggest and most successful Disney film since The Lion King (1994) and one of the most anticipated additions to Kingdom Hearts since its release was a big gimmicky mess that leaned too much on the film's massive popularity.
Sora and company were more observers than participants in a worthless, hole-filled film plot adaptation, spending half of it scaling a mountain just to be thrown down and interacting with Larxene more than the film characters to the point of not establishing relationships with them.
The 'Let it Go' number was included exactly as it was in the film as nothing more than an exploit. Despite being the central villain of the film Hans’ has two cameos, first walking to the palace with an unconscious Ela slung over his shoulder and wrapped in some dark aura, and then when Anna stops him from killing her.
We only ever hear the name Hans once as the name of Anna's supposed true love with no connection made to this character who is threatening Elsa. Those who haven't seen the film were unable to understand the importance of this name or the character or that the two are the same.
The events are just thrown out there quite randomly with no explanations. Kristoff's trust in Sora and company based on Anna's judgment bugged me; he has a whole song about how he doesn't trust people. The Organization’s angle of securing new princesses of heart fell flat on Elsa as it did Rapunzel because of the missed potential. Or perhaps because the popular theory was that she’d be manipulated or exploited for her powers, and instead, she was left to her self-imposed isolation with the littlest role in the world.
2. Kingdom of Corona (Tangled)
A complete utter waste of the film plot with disjointed, almost non-existent storytelling and Sora and company as more observers than participants.
There are no backstories or explanations to engage Sora and co. in the film's plot or its significant elements, causing some abrupt unclear reactions from him, such as his congratulating Rapunzel on being able to return to her real home.
Flynn’s thug associates are absent from this adaption, their roles fulfilled by Marluxia. However, Mother Gothel still uses her film line: “Let’s go quick before they come to,” establishing a second participant who did not exist and Flynn being set up to appear to be ditching Rapunzel with the crown doesn’t have the build of Mother Gothel insisting to Rapunzel that he was just entertaining her for the crown which made it abrupt and confusing to those who have not seen the film.
Rapunzel's magic hair and Mother Gothel's character lent themselves well to this installment's callback to the age of Fairytales and the Keyblade War as Mother Gothel had been using the flower for immortality for centuries, and that drop of light that became the flower could have been one of the few surviving shards of light from the war. Those opportunities, however, were ignored in favor of Rapunzel just being a new princess of light.
3. 100 Acre Wood (Winnie the Pooh)
The chance of pace from the redundant destruction of the book was weak, and the introduction of Lumpy had excellent potential for a plot revolving around the group’s reluctance to trust a Heffalump. Instead, there was no substance whatsoever. This world was a short and pointless waste of beautiful crisp illustrative graphics.
I also don't think Tom Kenny does a good Rabbit at all.
4. The Toy Box (Toy Story)
While this world is nostalgic to those who remember the Super Nintendo and PS games and informs the future of the franchise with the introduction to the video game Verum Rex, this long-anticipated world and Pixar’s official debut in Kingdom Hearts had to create a lot of flat excuses for Sora and co. to fit into a world focused on inanimate objects. No doubt to eliminate the characters that could not be voice cast, such as Mr. Potato Head and Jessie.
The concept of a mirror image of the world to isolate the toys' hearts and harness the strength and vulnerability of their innocence is intriguing. Still, the lack of development left it feeling hollow. We didn't learn what this mirror world was made of or how it was made. Is it a data world like the other Twilight Town? I believe it should have been filled with Dream Eaters or Nobodies, not Heartless.
Buzz and Woody switch their third film roles so that Buzz was the Andy-attached distrusting one to Woody’s openness towards Sora and co. and Buzz’s concern about being turned against his friends was inconsistent with the canon and off-putting. The latter would have been fantastic if this was set after the third film in which he was reset to factory/'real space ranger delusion' mode, but I believe Nomura had said it was placed between the second and third films, which made it random and nonsensical.
Then we have one of the worst resolutions in the franchise to date when out of nowhere; the group accepts being trapped in the mirror world and separated from Andy.
It went against their belief in the love of a child in the films, the second film in particular, which focused on a child's love vs. sitting in a glass case in a museum, and the former won out.
5. Monstropolis (Monsters Inc.)
The teaser stills of Sora and co.’s monster forms were all that was needed for this to become one of the worlds we most looked forward to, and the use of the scream energy concept was perfect for reintroducing the creator of the unversed, negative emotions incarnate, Vanitas. The incarnate of the darkness in Ventus’ heart.
His behind-the-scenes involvement represented by film villain Randall Boggs created an intriguing if not predictable build-up, which almost made it the best use of an Organization member.
This was not quite as successful a post-film plot as San Fransokyo due to lack of development and inconsistencies.
While we don’t see her, Boo’s voice in the film's last moment is indisputably older, so to involve her in this plot as the toddler, she interfered with the timeline's presentation. Additionally, Vanitas needed more backstory as Ventus defeats him in Birth by Sleep. The world was also quite empty as it consisted of so few characters.
Granted, it might have been more difficult to justify Sora and co.’s alliance while screams were still the resource. However, using the film plot rather than a post-film original plot might have solved these issues since the Disney + series Monsters at Work had not existed, as Vanitas lends himself well to the role of Waternoose.
6. Olympus (Hercules)
Although one of few returning worlds in this game, I felt it was more successful as a whole plot-based world than, for the most part, an optional extracurricular.
Pairing Sora’s lost powers with Hades’ coup against Zeus, thus giving him a bit of Hercules’ role, flowed well and as the place where Hercules had his first success, using Thebes and in a state of rebuilding was a very symbolic way to set the scene.
The titan boss battles were long overdue but waiting for the right technology was well worth it as the sheer scale. In particular, the Rock titan battle was stunning, although the wind titan battle was a little too similar to the Genie Jafar battle in Kingdom Hearts II, which is a lost point for originality.
As a continuation of an established timeline within Kingdom Hearts, the Hades coup was abrupt and not quite connected with the previous uses of the Hercules-based world or Hades' character. A short flashback of the Fates explaining the prediction with the planets aligning would have helped this somewhat.
The brief and exclusively film-based use of Zeus' character was the lowest point. Although he's not usually supposed to interact with mortals, I'd expected him, as an immortal god, to have original substance and experience similar to King Tritan in Kingdom Hearts I implying that he has met a Keyblade wielder before. Remember the 'Look inside your heart' conversation in the film? That would have been an excellent line to incorporate regarding Sora's quest to regain his lost powers.
7. The Caribbean (Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End)
Although I have not seen the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, the film plot is quite prominent in this world as central conflicts and even an attempt to tempt Sora.
The box containing Davy Jones’ heart being confused for the mysterious box given to Luxu by the Master of Masters in Kingdom Hearts Union X was a strong plot point not just for Organization XIII but because it maintained the main plot’s relevance within the film.
In contrast to the prior version of this world introduced in Kingdom Hearts II, the landscapes here are the vastest and just gorgeous and is one of the few worlds in this game to give Sora and co. a form or costume change.
The ship battles and the swimming underwater were a little less than appealing.
Controlling the large ships was a challenge because of the weight and slowness. The water wall defense wasn't too effective since one can't shoot in the brief moment that it's up. Also, I felt the underwater controls were more complicated to remember vs. those of Atlantica in Kingdom Hearts I and II. It took me a bit of time to stop reflexively attempting to apply the Atlantica controls.
8. San Fransokyo (Big Hero 6)
This breathtaking cityscape with Kingdom Hearts’ first-ever day and night cycle is one of the most authentic and vast worlds we've ever seen.
The plot felt a little disconnected from the rest of the game but overall had the best incorporation of the film elements as viable Kingdom Hearts lore and character interactions that made Sora and Co. feel a part of the events. The return of the original Baymax, who had sacrificed himself to the void of dimensional space with the martial arts chip corrupted by darkness, is one of the best uses of a Disney character in Kingdom Hearts history, and Replica Riku provided some of the most Organization XIII action in the game.
The one flaw was that when Hiro decided to destroy the martial arts chip and the team tried to tell him that it wasn't necessary, he needed to acknowledge that the chip's darkness was his own because he created that chip out of rage and a thirst for revenge. It would have been nice to explore the bridge more as well.
Overall, the film choices were spot on, and there were some shining successes while some suffered from underuse of the characters and plot and favoring of the new princesses of heart angle that went nowhere. Going forward after defeating Xehanort for good, Sora’s journey is now continuing into a whole new realm. The fictional or “unreality” realm as his violation of the design in Re Mind to save Kairi’s heart has resulted in his being trapped in the world of Verum Rex. This video game informed his persona in The Toy Box with its main character Yozora and without his iconic companions Donald and Goofy.
Does this mean that he is done in the realm of Disney? We’ll just have to wait and see.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from Aquawater in Sign the petition for The Jungle Book in Kingdom Hearts
I concur with this.
In entertainment no matter the form, content decisions are based on things a petition can not change such as budget, time and plot-flow and a main factor Kingdom Hearts relies on is film rights granted by Disney.
It seems the reason for Jungle Book's removal has never been released to the public so for all we know it could have been a film rights issue as was the case with Deep Jungle.
I would love a Jungle Book world and can name a couple of others I've been hoping for since KH3 was in development but have no desire to harass Square for them.
On that note, I've noticed that your threads about the Jungle Book world are becoming a bit excessive. This is at least the third consecutive thread and the second attempting to promote this petition. Please move on.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from ocean's rage in Muppets World: yes or no?
That's an idea I could get on board with especially since I think Hundred Acre Wood has reached it's limit.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from JTD95 in Orange Beta Sora
I can not see him in that image at all but here is some fun trivia about Sora's conceptualization; one of his earliest designs was a feline hybrid with a keyblade that was more of a chainsaw and he was originally intended as a supporting character.
As I remember reading it, Mickey and Donald were the top choices for the protagonist but the developers could not come to a decision between them so felt the best solution was neither in favor of an original character. Therefor our guy was promoted.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from Lann in Ventus is the hero and the true main protagonist of Birth by Sleep. Here’s why.
I noticed all these points as well and while valid, I feel Terra is of equal significance to Ventus as he is the foundation of Sora's conflicts with all of Xehanort's forms (Ansam SOD, Xenmas and the complete Xehanort and his younger version etc.) and if I understand correctly, the ultimate source of Sora's and Riku's powers. Right? Terra bequeathed Riku as a child and Sora had intercepted his calling until he himself was chosen by the Keyblade in Hallow Bastian? At the very least he's the source of Riku's power.
Aqua, while having a bit less of a direct impact on the overall series plot is something of a guardian character who ultimately assembled the 7 guardians of light by saving Kairi and giving her the pendent that transported her to Destiny Island and by sacrificing herself for Terra-Nort and Riku (saving Terra-Nort also had some obviously terrible consequences but it had to be done for Terra's sake). She's essentially the guardian of the guardians.
Ventus might have been the center peice but ultimately, all three of them were puzzles pieces that set up the series.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from DestinysUnion in Ventus is the hero and the true main protagonist of Birth by Sleep. Here’s why.
I noticed all these points as well and while valid, I feel Terra is of equal significance to Ventus as he is the foundation of Sora's conflicts with all of Xehanort's forms (Ansam SOD, Xenmas and the complete Xehanort and his younger version etc.) and if I understand correctly, the ultimate source of Sora's and Riku's powers. Right? Terra bequeathed Riku as a child and Sora had intercepted his calling until he himself was chosen by the Keyblade in Hallow Bastian? At the very least he's the source of Riku's power.
Aqua, while having a bit less of a direct impact on the overall series plot is something of a guardian character who ultimately assembled the 7 guardians of light by saving Kairi and giving her the pendent that transported her to Destiny Island and by sacrificing herself for Terra-Nort and Riku (saving Terra-Nort also had some obviously terrible consequences but it had to be done for Terra's sake). She's essentially the guardian of the guardians.
Ventus might have been the center peice but ultimately, all three of them were puzzles pieces that set up the series.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from ocean's rage in Encanto world
I just finished watching this film for the first time and I see massive potential in the concept of the magic being extinguished by the Abuela's misguided thirst for the protection of the magic creating and spreading stress, self-doubt and conformity throughout the Madrigal family. It's the perfect recipe for Unversed and the darkness that draws villains such as the organization and Maleficent and Pete (where the heck even are Maleficent and Pete? We didn't defeat them in KHII).
Meeting Sora, someone who isn't a Modrigal, someone from another world who possesses a gift could add to Maribel's conflict about not having one and Bruno is even a possible character of interest for the foretellers who were hinted to possibly be the next big adversaries now that Xehanort has been defeated once and for all.
The one thing about the film that bugged me was that we don't get an exact explanation as to the reason Mirabel was not given a gift but KH lore could fill that in. There is a subtle suggestion that she is a manifestation of the miracle so perhaps she could be a guardian of light or a princess of heart.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from Aquawater in Jungle Book world in Future Kingdom Hearts game
The remnants of the Jungle Book world that was scrapped from BBS despite somewhat at least in Ven's version appeared to share base graphics with a section of Deep Jungle look fantastic.
(I have had this video in my Kingdom Hearts playlist for a while and just now noticed that it's Daniel's! Nice work dude!)
It would have been a great world for DDD as well, it's a favorite of mine but I feel it needed a few more worlds.
I would love for it to be revived in a future game.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from Vèńťúş_wíņđ_⅔ in Encanto world
I just finished watching this film for the first time and I see massive potential in the concept of the magic being extinguished by the Abuela's misguided thirst for the protection of the magic creating and spreading stress, self-doubt and conformity throughout the Madrigal family. It's the perfect recipe for Unversed and the darkness that draws villains such as the organization and Maleficent and Pete (where the heck even are Maleficent and Pete? We didn't defeat them in KHII).
Meeting Sora, someone who isn't a Modrigal, someone from another world who possesses a gift could add to Maribel's conflict about not having one and Bruno is even a possible character of interest for the foretellers who were hinted to possibly be the next big adversaries now that Xehanort has been defeated once and for all.
The one thing about the film that bugged me was that we don't get an exact explanation as to the reason Mirabel was not given a gift but KH lore could fill that in. There is a subtle suggestion that she is a manifestation of the miracle so perhaps she could be a guardian of light or a princess of heart.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from DisneyXPixarfan95 in Encanto world
I just finished watching this film for the first time and I see massive potential in the concept of the magic being extinguished by the Abuela's misguided thirst for the protection of the magic creating and spreading stress, self-doubt and conformity throughout the Madrigal family. It's the perfect recipe for Unversed and the darkness that draws villains such as the organization and Maleficent and Pete (where the heck even are Maleficent and Pete? We didn't defeat them in KHII).
Meeting Sora, someone who isn't a Modrigal, someone from another world who possesses a gift could add to Maribel's conflict about not having one and Bruno is even a possible character of interest for the foretellers who were hinted to possibly be the next big adversaries now that Xehanort has been defeated once and for all.
The one thing about the film that bugged me was that we don't get an exact explanation as to the reason Mirabel was not given a gift but KH lore could fill that in. There is a subtle suggestion that she is a manifestation of the miracle so perhaps she could be a guardian of light or a princess of heart.
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Ventus_ reacted to The Transcendent Key in Disney Worlds in Kingdom Hearts IV - Let's Discuss Encanto, Coco, Turning Red, Lightyear, Strange World, etc.
I will always advocate for Treasure Planet and Atlantis: The Lost Empire to be included at some point. Both have interesting worlds and characters that would mesh well in the Kingdom Hearts universe!
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Ventus_ got a reaction from DisneyXPixarfan95 in Disney Worlds in Kingdom Hearts IV - Let's Discuss Encanto, Coco, Turning Red, Lightyear, Strange World, etc.
Ever since KH3 speculation I've been most longing for Treasure Planet and Atlantis in particular but I'd also love to see Emperor's New Groove with the original Kingdom Of the Sun Yzma and Zootopia.
Silver's double agent thing in Treasure Planet would be a unique villain plot in the KH-verse and the Crystals in Atlantis could be related to the original light and/or the powers of the keyblades.
KOTS Yzma's desire to destroy the sun to reclaim her beauty and the night howlers in Zootopia would be a bitchin' darkness tie-in with the KH-verse.
Moana also has some fantastic material. The concept of an island/land mass having a heart speaks for itself.
After the flower in Tangled was ignored which pissed me off I don't trust them to use any of this potential but it's there begging to be used.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from The Transcendent Key in Disney Worlds in Kingdom Hearts IV - Let's Discuss Encanto, Coco, Turning Red, Lightyear, Strange World, etc.
Ever since KH3 speculation I've been most longing for Treasure Planet and Atlantis in particular but I'd also love to see Emperor's New Groove with the original Kingdom Of the Sun Yzma and Zootopia.
Silver's double agent thing in Treasure Planet would be a unique villain plot in the KH-verse and the Crystals in Atlantis could be related to the original light and/or the powers of the keyblades.
KOTS Yzma's desire to destroy the sun to reclaim her beauty and the night howlers in Zootopia would be a bitchin' darkness tie-in with the KH-verse.
Moana also has some fantastic material. The concept of an island/land mass having a heart speaks for itself.
After the flower in Tangled was ignored which pissed me off I don't trust them to use any of this potential but it's there begging to be used.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from The Transcendent Key in Is Rebooting Pirates Of The Caribbean A Bad Idea?
Perhaps it won't but rather will progress to their rebooting their non-Pixar CGIs such as Frozen and Wreck-it-Ralph.
What's got me is their priorities when it comes to sequels.
While Googling Dumbo II a similar search suggestion I was drawn to was Zootopia 2.
From what I've gathered, IMDB suggests that a plot outline and even cast choices have been mapped out and the film is in high demand but there are no plans in the near future to actually make it.
Yet Wreck-it-Ralph, Maleficent, Frozen and possibly the live action Jungle Book got/are getting sequels.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from Dagesh Lene in A Chain of Memories deep dive
I played the GBA and I found it difficult at times to see where I was aiming during a battle particularly when there were multiple foes as in a random heartless battle so I while I'm not a fan of this installment at all I disagree that it's better on GBA. I was a bit more comfortable with it on PS3 in 1.5.
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Ventus_ reacted to JTD95 in My KH voice impressions
Hi!
I’ve recently been doing a lot of impressions of various characters, specifically from the KH series, and it would mean a lot to me if some of you would check out some of them and tell me what you think. If there are certain things that come to mind that you think could be better in terms of performance and/or recording please do tell below or comment on the video! For reference I currently use a Røde microphone and Audacity to record. One of the things I’m struggling with is being able to yell and scream without having the sound become distorted.
If anyone else here also does impressions – or some actual voice acting for that matter – feel free to share it as well!
Below are some of the impressions I’m most satisfied with so far, but I do have a few more over on my Youtube channel.
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Ventus_ reacted to Shareef Haddad in Revisiting Xehanort's voice actor dilemma (As of Feb 2018)
You just read my mind! In fact, Lloyd did get cast as Old Man Xehanort in Re:Mind!
Ansem the Dark's cameo in this HMV kinda predicted this!
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Ventus_ got a reaction from Shareef Haddad in Revisiting Xehanort's voice actor dilemma (As of Feb 2018)
Recalling Lloyd as Rasputin in Anastasia, I'm not sure that he can quite reach Nimoy's depth and rasp but feel he could possibly pass.
I'm not familiar with anyone else who possesses the type of voice needed.
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Ventus_ got a reaction from WakelessDream in TV Show Club Planning Topic
So far we have:
Stranger Things suggested by @Allwil13
Dr. Who Suggested by @ocean's rage
and Samuri Jack suggested by @ienzo628
If anyone else has any suggestions this is the last call as we'll be making a selection soon.
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Ventus_ reacted to Allwil13 in TV Show Club Planning Topic
Hey everybody! Welcome to KH13's first ever club topic! If you don't know what I mean by "club topic", please check out the information topic on clubs here.
This topic will serve as the foundation for the TV Show club itself. This is where we will figure out which show we will follow, how many episodes to watch at a time, and how often we will meet. If there is anything else anyone would like to figure out before we get started with the club, please feel free to bring it up here and we will be sure to discuss it accordingly.
Any TV Show is up for selection, but we would like to make sure we select something that everyone will enjoy. With that being said, please don't hesitate to voice your hesitation about any suggestions brought up here and we will all discuss it. Also, if our selected series has multiple seasons, the club will reconvene here in this topic upon the conclusion of the first season to discuss whether or not we would like to continue. The same approach will occur for each subsequent season as well. If no one is enjoying the series after the season, we can select a new project to replace it.
While discussing the idea of the clubs, we mods thought that Stranger Things might be a fun show to start with. Keep in mind however that this is simply a suggestion. If you have a show in mind that you'd like to put forward, we'd love to hear it. This is a group activity, so the group's opinions are crucial.
We can't wait to hear your feedback and ideas, so without further ado, let's get started!
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Ventus_ reacted to Allwil13 in Clubs on KH13
Hey everyone!
We here at KH13 want everyone to have as much fun as possible here on the forums, and we are thrilled to introduce a new feature to the site. Starting immediately, we will be starting up some clubs for anyone who is interested to join. We hope that this will start up some interesting discussions, as well as give everyone a chance to enjoy something together. I'm sure you all probably have some questions about all this, so please see below for some answers to general anticipated questions.
What will the clubs be following?
These clubs can focus on any kind of media you like: TV Shows, Movies, Books, Video Games, you name it!
How will these clubs differ from regular discussion topics?
The idea of these clubs is for a group of interested members to follow their selected piece of media together and discuss it as they progress, allowing everyone to remain on the same page and share their thoughts and opinions.
Can I move ahead of the others in the club's chosen series/topic?
If you just can't wait to see what happens next, you can certainly move ahead of the rest of the club; this is meant to be fun for everyone, and if you have fun bingeing, then go for it! However, since everyone else will be moving along at the same pace, we politely ask that if you choose to move ahead of the other club members, you refrain from posting spoilers until the rest of the club has caught up, or at the very least hide spoilers in the site's spoiler tags.
This sounds great! Where can I find these clubs?
Since this is a new feature, we will be starting out small with a club focused on a TV Show. If you are interested in joining, please visit the topic for the club here where we are currently deciding which TV Show we would like to start with. As we add more, you can find them in the Video Games & Media subforum.
If you have any questions aside from the ones shown above, please do not hesitate to ask here, or PM any of the site mods who would be more than happy to answer any inquiries you may have. May your hearts be your guiding keys!
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Ventus_ got a reaction from The Transcendent Key in Brawl at Disneyland's Toontown happens near Goofy's house
How disgraceful of people to defile a children oriented area like this and that the family refused to cooperate with the police just further establishes a lack of consideration. I hope this family is permanently banned.
It's a bit bizarre that no one knows the cause of the fight. Are witnesses not coming forward?
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Ventus_ got a reaction from Randallmelry in Which Is Your Favorite Online Retailer?
Amazon all the way.