Key Sharkz

KH1 wasn't developed for the PS2 because it was the only competitive console at the time. It was developed for PS2 because Square had an exclusivity contract with Sony. There's no excuses for 2.8 to not be on Xbox One however.

Except money. Let's be blunt: In Japan the Xbox One's market is non-existent. That is a good portion of the people who are going to buy this game, and in the US it's barely doing that well. It's install base is almost half of the PS4's and Xbox loyalists (I.e. people who only play on Xbox) have never had a Kingdom Hearts Game, so it makes little point to port one of the later installments onto their system when they haven't had any of the previous games. From a marketing standpoint it makes no sense to release 2.8 on the Xbox One:

• The system is not selling.
• It's loyalists have never played any of the previous games.
• It makes no sense to release the final chapter prologue and not the other 2 collections.

I would say they have every reason not to do it. Money is the greatest motivator and the money isn't there.

I would not get it.

 

Even so, it won't happen because we are on year five of production going on year six soon. If they wanted to do it, then they should have done it when they first started making the game. It's too late now and it would delay the game to a ridiculous level should they decide to port it now.

What? Where did you come up with that? Nomura nor Square Enix never said either of those.

Necropost, sorry:

That is not necessarily true. The game is being made on DirectX 11 and on Unreal 4, both things that work quite well on the PC. It's not far fetched to say that they could squeeze in a PC port without having to delay the game too much. Plus at this point we have been given no release date despite how long it's been in production, I don't think delaying it silently will really harm it anymore.

We don't even have a release date after all this time, so getting your hopes up for any release anytime soon is kind of pointless.

I'm not sure where you are getting those numbers from, I only paid €35 for BOTH my adaptor and Smash Bros. Edition GameCube Controller over on PlayAsia. Amiibo are not even required for Smash Bros. DLC adds more to a game that already has a lot of content to begin with and is fairly priced when compared to other fighting games.

 

Also, "banking solely on Smash Bros. and it's pathetic" that is ridiculous statement. Smash Bros is ONE of their biggest games on the Wii U, to not support it would be a missed opportunity. We'll no doubt get more content for Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon later down the line so they aren't banking solely on Smash Bros in the slightest.

My point is they are more or less trying to keep a system alive on a handful of games when their competitors don't need to rely on that. My point is that they are milking Smash Bros. for everything its worth and not in a savory way. It's more of an acceptance that it is all the Wii U.

The Wii U I feel is a failure for one simple reason:

Nintendo did not give us what they promised.

I hold Nintendo accountable for claims they made to their fans and not follow through on them. They promised a system that appeals more to hardcore gamers, and a system that has far superior third party support and both of those things have been untrue. Third party support is actually WORSE on the Wii U than the original Wii. The system is clunky, and there are too many "hidden" fees to play an underpowered system. You need a Wiimote, rechargable batteries, and much more if you want to enjoy the FULL use of the system for more than like 4 games. Hell I only own a few games off the eShop (which is how a LOT OF PEOPLE BUY GAMES THESE DAYS SINCE NINTENDO DOESN'T MAKE ENOUGH AT LAUNCH SO THEY ARE ALWAYS SOLD OUT) and I am already almost halfway full in terms of storage for my 32GB unit. I will need to get an external hard drive very very soon. The PS4 at least comes with everything you need in the box.

And sorry, but the argument of "sales don't matter" is not a good one. Sales affect the value of the system as a whole in many ways. Developers will choose not to develop for a platform that is not selling well, and this is going to affect the overall amount of third party support the Wii U has. The whole argument of "you buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games" is ridiculous. If Sony or Microsoft did that, people would throw a fit. Nintendo doesn't get a free pass for being Nintendo. When you promise me that I will be able to play my third party and get hardcore games on your system, you better deliver. If I have to invest in your competitor just to play 90% of my games then you have failed.

What's even more annoying is that there is a rumor that the NX will NOT be as powerful as the PS4 and is not attempting to compete with the PS4. If this ends up being true then I say this: what's the point? Why bother releasing a new system if it doesn't compete with the two that are already kicking your ass? If they do this it's more or less just a repackaged Wii U probably without the gamepad. Third party is not going to flock to a system that is underpowered, because they can make better looking games on your competitors.

Nintendo essentially made a console that plays Smash Bros. And it's clear that they think Smash Bros. will keep it alive. Look at all the crap that you can get for just Smash Bros.:

-$100 Gamecube adapter that ONLY PLAYS SMASH BROS.

-$40-50 Gamecube controller.

-$5-15 Amiibos which are more or less the equivalent to micro-transactions when you think about it.

-DLC for Smash Bros.

Does anyone consider how much stuff you need to buy to get the "definitive" Smash Bros. experience? They are banking solely on Smash Bros. and it's pathetic. It's more pathetic that stuff that other companies do, Nintendo gets to do and everyone just shrugs it off. Amiibos are freakin' Microtransactions in physical form! They are even more expensive than micro-transactions too! What do they honestly do in games? Unlock costumes? Let you move your characters from one console to another? Don't we have SD cards? And the internet? Why do you need this stupid figure to do that?

The Wii U is a failure in that it did not deliver what it promised almost 3 years later and it even had the advantage of a head start. It's also a failure in terms of sales.

Nintendo really dropped the ball with this platform, and while I own one and I enjoy the few games that I DO have on it, I spend a majority of my time on my PS4 and PC.

I want Kairi to have a bigger role, not for the sake of equality, but because they have pointed out how important she is for so long and she has done little more than be the damsel in distress. She could be a badass party member or co-op character.

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It sounds like you could use some friends! Here, I'll fulfill that.

Honestly... I was severely let down by Square Enix's conference. Shy of announcing FF7 getting rebooted, basically both it and KH are still heavily in development. I'm a little bummed that KH3 is not further along to where they can even give us more of a definitive release time or show anything beyond what appears to still be engine demos. It doesn't look like we are anywhere near a completed game.

I also was VERY sad that despite using ENTIRELY Chrono Trigger music for their hype video, they did NOTHING with Chrono Trigger. :c

Yeah but they also tend to get over it fast too

I mean I can't  deny that after all this teasing it would be kind of a kick in the dick to not show anything KH3 related.

 Honestly I think you are being overdramatic lol.

I'm not talking about me, I am talking about fans in general. We all know that fans have a tendency to overreact.

Honestly, If they once again do not talk about KH3 after hamming it up for this long and teasing so long, I would not be surprised if KH3 never gets finished. At this point Square is standing on a fine line of pissing their fans off to no end. If they spent all this time teasing KH info and only give us a remake and a smartphone game, I think it's safe to say that there will be a lot of backlash from fans. At this point KH3 has been in talks for so long, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as vaporware.

Impossible you fool, Kingdom hearts 3 was already announced. >>>>>"Peace!"<<<<<<<

Actually Square has been beating around the bush. They never exactly said KH3 was going to get a release date or anything like that. Just that major KH news was coming. They have announced everything else under the sun but they have never specifically said KH3.

With E3 right around the corner I have noticed a trend. Square has announced and revealed almost every other thing they are doing, but they are dancing around KH3. So much teasing, so much insinuating, but at the end of the day, the only thing we really know for certain is that KH news will be at E3... For all we know they could pull the biggest dick moves and talk only about Unchained and a 3D remake because they have not specifically come forward and said KH3.

Honestly and not even speaking from a personal standpoint: if this is all just a clever troll to keep people interested in KH3 when they have nothing to show for it, it will not have the effect they hope. It will instead be met with a HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGE amount of backlash after all that teasing. It'll set the expectations for KH3 a lot higher, and may even bring it to the level where surpassing the hype becomes impossible.

What do you think? Will you be upset if KH3 is not revealed?

I hold onto mine, no way am I about to sell them to anyone so they can turn around and jack the value of old games up even further.

I feel like remakes and remasters is all Capcom can do lately...

I could use more friends

"A bit"

Do you like games crashing and losing progress over 25-30 times when going for the platinum? I SURE DO! Oh god, I actually tortured myself and beat the entire game. I can safely say that the PS3 version is the worst after playing all 3. The 360 version is still dreadful, but the PS3 version locked up my PS3 so many times and forced me to hard reset. ESPECIALLY Point Lookout which was almost unplayable. Almost 25% of all my freezes happened in Point Lookout.

I would rather they not even bother with making a watered down version like that again.

Fallout could barely run on last gen systems and people are upset that a newer, more intensive Fallout isn't being brought to last gen?

That also extends to not boasting about it, which is something a lot of people (younger ones in particular) forget. Quite frankly, I don't want to hear about your sexual escapades; even if you think that showcases your own "freedom", many people are going to look down on that for a reason (namely, it's crass and really doesn't need to be discussed in a public space). I don't think I deserve ridicule (like you seemed to imply earlier) for thinking sex should have a special "something" behind it (and not coincidentally, that usually requires a monogamous relationship, regardless of gender).

Yeah, agreed. It should be a two way street of respect.

I might do it again depending on the game. These days the only real games that sell out (and thus making it worth standing in line at midnight) are Nintendo exclusives.

Yeah I kind of agree with Hatok, considering the recent news regarding the Vita (and lack of news prior to that), it doesn't look like a very profitable venture to develop for the system.

I want this to be Fallout 4... But I can not dismiss the idea that this may be a remastering of 3 or New Vegas for next gen consoles since that seems to be the trend lately...

Its mainly as they want you to upgrade, and as far as I understand, it's still free to do as long as you have a legit copy of Windows 7 or 8/8.1, and if they're making it free for 1000's of people, I doubt they want anyone to miss the chance. Windows 10 has a sort of mix of 8 and 7, the tile interface is only active when you have a touch screen and no pereferal (keyboard/mouse or input device of some kind) but otherwise it looks very similar to 7 in desktop mode, though the start button is a tad strange as it still has tiles/ tile interface apps accessible (last I remember seeing anyway) from there, making it look stretched, otherwise it looked very similar.

Their logic is actually to get people off of older versions of windows faster so they can spend less money servicing those old versions.

They will co-exist. Home consoles, PC and mobile devices are the future. The only thing dying is handhelds.

I wouldn't say dying, just changing. The handhelds of tomorrow are going to incorporate a lot of aspects from mobile devices. Android OS being on NX I think is a sign of that change. It's almost an exciting change though to me. While if it's just a smartphone you need to play Nintendo games, that's kind of "meh" but if it's a Nintendo device that uses Android to get the mobile market into the handheld, then I'd say that's a win.

Well as I said, I guess we'll see. The smartphone market will definitely continue to advance, but honestly I don't think it's "the future" like some of these devs seem to think. I believe it will co-exist with dedicated gaming devices because people crave different experiences and thus different devices will be needed to address those needs.

I will say though that these graphics are quite impressive for phone technology.

Well they've already had about half a million pre-register in Japan.

Well the mobile market is bigger in Japan, I'll give you that, I am just curious as to why so many developers think that the smartphone market is going to be the next big thing. Dedicated gaming devices are riskier, yes but at the end of the day they deliver the more memorable experiences. I have yet to hear the same amount of people tell me about all their fond memories of smart phone games they have been playing versus a game on the PC or a gaming console.

I really feel that investing into the smartphone market so heavily is a VERY risky move because it's a constantly changing market. Considering that most devs (Square included) seem to abandon games after a year or so on smartphones it leads to very low compatibility once android and iOS updates come out. Hell, apparently people can't even get Chrono Trigger running on fairly current Android phones because of compatibility issues, and people are not going to buy new phones to play games repeatedly.

Not to mention there is no promise that Android and iOS will remain the big thing. Remember when iOS was "certain" that Android was no threat? Now a majority of smart phones are androids. Who is to say the next big thing won't come out and change that? Hell for all we know Microsoft could make a full desktop windows phone that can play PC games (unlikely) and work as a phone. If they did that it may just kill the entire mobile market off entirely. Phones could become full desktop OSes at some point too considering how powerful they are getting. The problem is that the market is unpredictable and it's changing so fast that focusing so heavily on it might be a big risk.

While phones are getting more powerful, their usefulness vs. dedicated gaming devices is debatable. Lack of physical controls will continue to limit games, among other things.

However I could be wrong; I suppose we'll see.