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ok so 7 of the darknesses went into the foretellers, one of them took over ventus and four were trapped in the world cable. did we see what happened to the last one or is it unaccounted for?

2 hours ago, Double OKP said:

lol

that person is....uhh......definitely not getting the facts straight. 

looks like it

18 minutes ago, Double OKP said:

Yes I'm sure. I remember re-watching those scenes and there was no place where Brain said whose name was circled.

well then i really must mis-remember cause i could have sworn the circled name thing was something else

and i need to have a word with whoevers writing the KHwiki

that is certainly one of the theories ive been operating on so its possible the darkness inside ven is gone. if so sora would be able to enter people hearts to destroy the darkness without the need to sacrifice them which is totally how things would go in KH. whether or not the darkness survived will remain to be seen.

7 hours ago, Double OKP said:

It was never said that Strelitzia was the one who was supposed to get the Book; Brain never says anything about that until he gives it to Ephemer.

you sure about that? cause i recall differently 

2 hours ago, ienzo628 said:

I would have thought being the traitor meant going against MoM's wishes.

perhaps, but so far hes not been shown to do so

11 minutes ago, Dagesh Lene said:

You're right. I don't think they died during the Keyblade War. My point was that, if the darknesses are already trapped within them, why not just end them now instead of reawakening them in the future? Unless there's another way to defeat the darknesses without ending the lives of the vessels that is.

Sorry, I messed up. I think I was confused by Brain giving the Book of Prophecies to Ephemer at the end and telling him that it was meant for him. However, Ava still gave the Book of Prophecies to Brain hoping that he could change their fates, which it looks like he mostly succeeded in doing.

That is what the Master of Masters implied, but I wasn't sure if he was being honest, especially since Luxu seemed unwilling to accept the Master of Masters' willingness to sacrifice them all. True, Luxu has been carrying out his role perfectly, as far as we know, but that doesn't mean he isn't planning something in the future. Maybe I'm wrong, but the fact that he told Luxu that the traitor was a ruse, and then called Luxu the traitor after he had left the room and could no longer hear him made me think that Luxu would become one in the future.

well we'll have to wait and see

38 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

So, Luxu being the traitor was just a title to the MoM?

could be im not sure. i think the idea was the traitor was simply the one who fell to darkness which for all we know luxu has already done. but in terms of deviating from their role i dont think hes done that

well was it ever actually clear that the foretellers died in the keyblade war? if not the the darkness inside of them wouldnt have been destroyed. also wasnt stretliza the one who was supposed to get the book of of prophecies not ephemer? ava's role was to form the dandelions so theres no denying she fulfilled that regardless of what else she did. also even though luxu is the traitor he seems to have done everything the master asked him to and the master seemed to imply that the traitor was a ruse to allow the darkness to enter their hearts and luxu only claims to be the traitor in order to start the keyblade war.

one big colossal bummer

9 minutes ago, Double OKP said:

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I honestly don't see why everybody's blaming Player for everything Xehanort did. Xehanort is a completely different person. In DR, he says concerning the dreams of Player's life:

I don't think he would be saying that if he were 100% Player. 

 

2 hours ago, Willow A113 said:

Because of the darkness 

xehanort was not an unwilling puppet

1 minute ago, Vèńťúş_wíņđ_⅔ said:

my question is where is skuld

odds are she either ended up in quadratum and became the nameless star or ended up as subject x and was experimented on by the reincarnated spirit of a close friend possessing the body of a close friend of another one of her close friends

6 hours ago, ienzo628 said:

And since Xehanort is dead now, does that mean that

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the player gets the chance to reunite with the rest of the Dandelions?

 

yes but none of them will want to talk to them because theyve become a horrific monster 

6 hours ago, Vèńťúş_wíņđ_⅔ said:

Hey kingdom Hearts is a sad series, sadness, pain, and hurting is a part of it. All good stories have to have some loss.

no they dont

id say the really sinister thing would if skuld turns out to be subject x

43 minutes ago, Movies798 said:

I like the characters, but I agree with you.

i liked them as well thats why im annoyed

23 minutes ago, Vèńťúş_wíņđ_⅔ said:

Hey just like bbs we already knew that khux would end sad.

dont forget days

2 hours ago, Double OKP said:

I mean.......it's the very Dandelions that we knew so it's kinda different..........

weve still potentially been fighting children, possibly younger than the dandelions, since day one

how would an offline version work?

3 hours ago, Vèńťúş_wíņđ_⅔ said:

Hey can we all agree that the khux ending was amazing and that khux probably has the best story in the kingdom Hearts series?.

no

nearly all the characters met with terrible things

36 minutes ago, Double OKP said:

no..........

NOOOOOooooooooo

oh my goodness why did KH suddenly become super dark overnight?!?!!?!!?

well remember most of the heartless and nobodies we fight were once people as well so its not that new really

1 hour ago, Vèńťúş_wíņđ_⅔ said:

I makes sense that the player becomes xahanort and we kinda already knew because of dark road when xahanort had dreams/visions of the player from khux.

perhaps but its still a trope i hate

i hate that it seems the player became xehanort. the idea that someone so good is reborn as someone so evil just does not sit well with me.

and i really want luxu to get a beating that freaking body thief

although as brain was shown ending up in some version of scala ed cailum it makes you wonder if he some how got his body back after luxu stole the next one

so it seems the master's plan has been to use himself and a bunch of others to destroy the 13 darknesses from the x-blade, which i guess means the foretellers may act evil deliberately to goad sora and co into destroying them.

i guess one of those darkness became vanitas perhaps. and if he indeed reabsorbed into ven at the end of bbs when may need to kill ven afetr all

of course this being KH sora will probably find a way to enter a persons heart and destroy the darkness thats sealed within without the need to sacrifice anyone

so does this mean that emphere is eraqus' ancestor or perhaps brain became eraqus after he reappeared?

i guess thats more signs that subject x is perhaps skuld after all but who knows

my thinking is the next saga will be about defeating the 13 draknesses

i find it extremely disappointing that the player becomes xehanort 

11 hours ago, Elfdemon_ said:

We literally collect dead/"sleeping" children like they're Pokémon. That's dark as hell. I guess we now know why they're called "Spirits."

we do that in pokemon

you guys running out of ideas?

9 hours ago, Double OKP said:

This got......pretty heated.......

Well anyway, what I got to say about it:

Yes. Vanitas did bad things. Terrible things. He's a being of pure negativity. But he says himself that he chose to be darkness, so that was his choice, and that's a main factor of why he did those things. There is also Xehanort's influence and all which definitely affected him. 

I'm really glad you brought up the importance of forgiveness in your argument. Key doesn't seem to understand a deep forgiveness like forgiving a murderer, but I can't blame them for that, because I myself struggled with that for a long time and I still kind of struggle with it. It's hard to understand and accept.

Throughout the Kingdom Hearts series we see Sora loving and forgiving his own enemies; how he talks to some of the Organization members at their 'deaths' in KH3 is evidence. Despite his enemies kidnapping or hurting his friends, he ultimately forgives them. All of them. That's a huge thing, something that defines Sora.

I totally think that Vanitas can be forgiven. Sora would, and I know he already did. 

but vanitas didnt want to be forgiven. 

18 hours ago, Vèńťúş_wíņđ_⅔ said:

Bruh this litty like ah kitty.

what?