I mean from what we've seen in KHUX they aren't like Nobodies, they clearly have emotions - anger most prominently being displayed by them - right? And we all know by now that to have emotions you need a Heart. Unless, like Nobodies, they're generally faking it? But then again, Lingering Will was Terra's emotions despite that I don't think it really had the incentive or environment necessary to grow a Heart?
I guess the question is, did Vanitas only develop a Heart because he had half of Ven's as a base when Xehanort tore him out of him, or did he and the other Darknesses have them before? Because they all displayed emotions in KHUX, like anger and cruelty, pettiness and frustration, etc...soooo...
Actually we know they WERE actual, physical beings before casting off their forms to become a whole, in the first Keyblade War with the MoM and his friends as a kid, so they HAD to have had Hearts BEFORE, at least, right? But did they keep them after becoming "a whole" or not? And could they develop them after becoming individuals again? Or have they already?
Either way, I think it'd be a really powerful statement for KH's themes if we got a Darkness that had or developed their own Heart, and came to be a friend or an ally, instead of just being all evil just because they're made up of pure darkness. Like what if that Lesser Darkness that Baldr and the DR crew created was more childlike and benevolent, showing that at birth even purely dark beings aren't just evil for the sake of it? But then, you could argue that Baldr's Darkness was the way it was because it was only acting on and being influenced by Baldr's Heart and emotions from which it spawned from! Which could be a hopeful point in favor of this idea...they're just influenced and shaped by their hosts? But that doesn't mean they couldn't grow to be something more, someone better?
Just my rambly thoughts on Darknesses and philosophy stuff I guess...
I mean from what we've seen in KHUX they aren't like Nobodies, they clearly have emotions - anger most prominently being displayed by them - right? And we all know by now that to have emotions you need a Heart. Unless, like Nobodies, they're generally faking it? But then again, Lingering Will was Terra's emotions despite that I don't think it really had the incentive or environment necessary to grow a Heart?
I guess the question is, did Vanitas only develop a Heart because he had half of Ven's as a base when Xehanort tore him out of him, or did he and the other Darknesses have them before? Because they all displayed emotions in KHUX, like anger and cruelty, pettiness and frustration, etc...soooo...
Actually we know they WERE actual, physical beings before casting off their forms to become a whole, in the first Keyblade War with the MoM and his friends as a kid, so they HAD to have had Hearts BEFORE, at least, right? But did they keep them after becoming "a whole" or not? And could they develop them after becoming individuals again? Or have they already?
Either way, I think it'd be a really powerful statement for KH's themes if we got a Darkness that had or developed their own Heart, and came to be a friend or an ally, instead of just being all evil just because they're made up of pure darkness. Like what if that Lesser Darkness that Baldr and the DR crew created was more childlike and benevolent, showing that at birth even purely dark beings aren't just evil for the sake of it? But then, you could argue that Baldr's Darkness was the way it was because it was only acting on and being influenced by Baldr's Heart and emotions from which it spawned from! Which could be a hopeful point in favor of this idea...they're just influenced and shaped by their hosts? But that doesn't mean they couldn't grow to be something more, someone better?
Just my rambly thoughts on Darknesses and philosophy stuff I guess...
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