I could need a little help to remember again.

 

By reading over and over again posts with the meaning that roxas has vens heart within him, suddendly a thought came into my head which actually should have come way earlier.

If people loose their heart, their body usually turns into a nobody.

So of course is roxas soras nobody with vens heart but if vens heart left his own body, shoudnt there actaully be a ventus nobody?

I thought about it abit and remembered that vens body didnt vanished like the others. Same thing with kairi, her body stayed in the realm of light when she lost her heart, too.

So probably to create a nobody the heart has to turn into a heartless or people with a pure light-filled heart has some special abilities to leave a corpse behind or whatsoever.

 

Long talk, short question: What was namine again? She and roxas werent "normal" nobodies because namine wasn

kairi wasnt turned into a heartless but sora was with kairi's heart inside him which created namin

If people loose their heart, their body usually turns into a nobody

Correction, if people lose their heart. The heart turns into a Heartless and the body/soul becomes a Nobody.

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So of course is roxas soras nobody with vens heart but if vens heart left his own body, shoudnt there actaully be a ventus nobody?

No really. When Ven's heart left his body it just merged back with Sora's heart again since it was damaged again after Ven's final fight with Vanitas.

 

I thought about it abit and remembered that vens body didnt vanished like the others. Same thing with kairi, her body stayed in the realm of light when she lost her heart, too.

So probably to create a nobody the heart has to turn into a heartless or people with a pure light-filled heart has some special abilities to leave a corpse behind or whatsoever.

Yeah, that's kinda something like that. Since we saw that Kairi produced a Nobody without a having a heartless.

 

 

Long talk, short question: What was namine again?

She a a special nobody whose born from Sora and Kairi. She has the power to manipulate Sora's memories and those connected to him.

 

She and roxas werent "normal" nobodies because namine wasn

If people loose their heart' date=' their body usually turns into a nobody[/quote']

Correction, if people lose their heart. The heart turns into a Heartless and the body/soul becomes a Nobody.

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So of course is roxas soras nobody with vens heart but if vens heart left his own body, shoudnt there actaully be a ventus nobody?

No really. When Ven's heart left his body it just merged back with Sora's heart again since it was damaged again after Ven's final fight with Vanitas.

 

I thought about it abit and remembered that vens body didnt vanished like the others. Same thing with kairi, her body stayed in the realm of light when she lost her heart, too.

So probably to create a nobody the heart has to turn into a heartless or people with a pure light-filled heart has some special abilities to leave a corpse behind or whatsoever.

Yeah, that's kinda something like that. Since we saw that Kairi produced a Nobody without a having a heartless.

 

 

Long talk, short question: What was namine again?

She a a special nobody whose born from Sora and Kairi. She has the power to manipulate Sora's memories and those connected to him.

 

She and roxas werent "normal" nobodies because namine wasn

You must have a Heartless to get a Nobody. Ven didn't have a Heartless, so he can't have a Nobody. His heart went to Sora, it didn't get swallowed up by darkness, which is how a Heartless is created. When Sora released his and Kairi's hearts, Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body. Sora's heart became a Heartless, fulfilling the Heartless requirement for both Sora and Kairi.

 

Sora's body, with Ven's heart still inside it, became a Nobody. The presence of Ven's heart in the body altered Sora's body, making it look like Ven as Roxas was being created, which is why Roxas looks like Ven, and not just Roxas being Ven with no memories like FrolicFlameXBondofFlame suggested. (That, and the fact that Roxas combines with Sora at the begining of KH2)

 

As for Namine, she was created at the same time as Roxas. What makes her so special is not only the fact that she can manipulate the memories of Sora and everyone he knows, but also the fact that she is a Nobody in the truest sense, being the fact that she actually has NO BODY. Kairi kept her body throughout all the games, even when she lost her heart. Because she had a heart of pure light, it couldn't become a Heartless. And because of Aquas spell on Kairi's necklace, her heart went to Sora. But when Sora released his and her hearts, his Heartless met the requirement and Namine was born. However, Kairi still had her body. So, what was Namine made from? As far as I know, nothing.

That was quite the answer i was looking for, ty.

 

Id like to add another character to this thread although i think it goes a bit off topic.

I acutally thought that the 7 princesses of heart and ven (whos darkness was seperated of his light) were the only people whos hearts are void of darkness.

But then i remembered that master eraques heart set foot in terras.

Meaning, if he has lost his heart it actually should become a heartless unless its completly void of darkness and only then it s capable of going into a new vessel.

Yes master eraques is quite "obsessed" (cant find a good word) with light and he s probably quite good in leaving the darkness no place in his heart but still people cant erase the darkness and everyone gets born with darkness.

So what do u think about that?

 

Besides that there would be the point that his body vanished which usually not happen to people who have a pure-light heart. But i think its just because his heart was released through an attack and not through keyblade or something.

Cause aqua wanted to keep vens body safe until he wakes too and also riku did protect kairis body in kh1 so i think there s nothing unusual to that point.

 

To the end, a theorie too all those who like unrealistic but kinda unexpected stuff.

How about master eraques is free of darkness becuase his darkness was seperated too like ven.

And who could the darkness then adventually be... (im not! thinking of a special main antagonist^^)

So yea MX is prob searching for a balance between light and darkness but maybe he just wants to become whole again with master eraques.

So why did he let fight ven and venitus.. hm maybe he wants 2 x-blades^^.

No i know this theorie doesnt make the slightest sense still i found it kinda funny.

She was born from Kairi's body. But she isn't a normal nobody because of the fact that she was also made from Sora's body as well. Which is why she can manipulate only Sora's memories and those connected to him.

 

Actually, I don't think Namin

That was quite the answer i was looking for, ty.

 

Id like to add another character to this thread although i think it goes a bit off topic.

I acutally thought that the 7 princesses of heart and ven (whos darkness was seperated of his light) were the only people whos hearts are void of darkness.

But then i remembered that master eraques heart set foot in terras.

Meaning, if he has lost his heart it actually should become a heartless unless its completly void of darkness and only then it s capable of going into a new vessel.

Yes master eraques is quite "obsessed" (cant find a good word) with light and he s probably quite good in leaving the darkness no place in his heart but still people cant erase the darkness and everyone gets born with darkness.

So what do u think about that?

 

Besides that there would be the point that his body vanished which usually not happen to people who have a pure-light heart. But i think its just because his heart was released through an attack and not through keyblade or something.

Cause aqua wanted to keep vens body safe until he wakes too and also riku did protect kairis body in kh1 so i think there s nothing unusual to that point.

 

To the end, a theorie too all those who like unrealistic but kinda unexpected stuff.

How about master eraques is free of darkness becuase his darkness was seperated too like ven.

And who could the darkness then adventually be... (im not! thinking of a special main antagonist^^)

So yea MX is prob searching for a balance between light and darkness but maybe he just wants to become whole again with master eraques.

So why did he let fight ven and venitus.. hm maybe he wants 2 x-blades^^.

No i know this theorie doesnt make the slightest sense still i found it kinda funny.

 

No. Eraqus' has darkness in his heart as well. The only reason he didn't become a Heartless is because his heart went into Terra. It is impossible for someone to remove the darkness from their heart, however MX's Keyblade can remove the darkness from someone's heart, which is what he did to Ven.

Well like in my earlier post already mentioned i agree with u that normally everyone gets born with darkness and cant get rid of it.

Just with the point that he didnt turn in a heartless because he went into terra, i cant agree.

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Well like in my earlier post already mentioned i agree with u that normally everyone gets born with darkness and cant get rid of it.

Just with the point that he didnt turn in a heartless because he went into terra, i cant agree.

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Well like said before ven and kairi arent a proof because their hearts are void of darkness and so when their hearts left their bodies they coudnt turn into heartless; stayed in the realm of light and were able so able to go into a new vessel.

But i agree with u now i didnt considered that MX heart also left his body and sough a new body.