> i still think ven is a red herring hes written to be one @Silent Multiverse I’m with you on this one. The more and more your dissect Ven’s narrative arc in KHUX, the more you see him being used less as a character and more as plot device. He’s the vehicle by which things are moving along, which points to red herring. > like, hypothetically darkness still exists somewhere, but not as vanitas. vanitas being more like an offspring/offshoot of darkness @hawk222_1550644792 I’m also in agreement that Vanitas is darkness, but he’s not DARKNESS. Ven is being used here as the “we all have darkness and light within us” trope and has been since the whole theme of BBS. I really hope that it’s not going this route, but I’m almost certain that it is, that they are building out to this whole “light can be be just as bad as darkness” thing. I think that is the MoM’s true aim, to bring balance. Furthermore, we call Darkness, Darkness because that’s what he told us to call him. That doesn’t mean he is “evil” and thing could be happening the way that they need to be. Darkness possessing someone in order to effect the outcome of something we’ve seen recently, with Sora literally spiriting into the bodies of his comrades in Re:Mind. wink