Of all the things in this franchise that I have the hardest time wrapping my head around, it's Keyblades, which is why I have a couple questions:

 

Question 1: Is it explicitly stated that the players in Unchained X have multiple Keyblades or just one that changes appearance and type effectiveness?

 

Question 2: Are Keychains just placebos? Allow me to elaborate: the way I understand things, a Keyblade's appearance is based on the heart of its wielder, excepting those who received them from external sources (Sora, Mickey, Master Xehanort, and currently Aqua) as opposed to forging them themselves. Keychains are a physical token based on the memory of whomever or wherever a given wielder received them from and can change the Keyblade based on that memory. Does this mean that if Sora focused really intently on Kairi, would the Kingdom Key automatically transform into the Oathkeeper without him needing to attach her lucky charm or am I misunderstanding the mechanics?

Of all the things in this franchise that I have the hardest time wrapping my head around, it's Keyblades, which is why I have a couple questions:

 

Question 1: Is it explicitly stated that the players in Unchained X have multiple Keyblades or just one that changes appearance and type effectiveness?

 

Question 2: Are Keychains just placebos? Allow me to elaborate: the way I understand things, a Keyblade's appearance is based on the heart of its wielder, excepting those who received them from external sources (Sora, Mickey, Master Xehanort, and currently Aqua) as opposed to forging them themselves. Keychains are a physical token based on the memory of whomever or wherever a given wielder received them from and can change the Keyblade based on that memory. Does this mean that if Sora focused really intently on Kairi, would the Kingdom Key automatically transform into the Oathkeeper without him needing to attach her lucky charm or am I misunderstanding the mechanics?

If they follow the same rules, than it's likely Keychains

 

And that's pretty much what I've been going with. To be honest, we have literally no explination as the how Keychains work, while we equip them ourselves, we've never seen Sora actually attach any Keychains to the Keyblade, even those he has in a physical form. Every time we see the Wayfinder, it's not attached to anything. Maybe it's both. Maybe the Weafinder itself doesn't actually cluip opn to the Keyblade, but instread when he thinks of Kairi the Keychain attached to the Oathkeeper is more of a copy of the lucky charm than the real one. though there was one time in Days here we saw Roxas turn two kingdom Keys nto the Oathkeeper and Oblivion, and they just kind of flashed and changed.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jJtln5YwENs#t=5973

 

Long story short, we have no canon explination for any of this.

Edited September 21, 20169 yr by Isamu Kuno

The one part of the universe I'm most interested in and it's the one that barely gets any explanations, not even in Japan only stuff. *shakes fist at Nomura*

Of all the things in this franchise that I have the hardest time wrapping my head around, it's Keyblades, which is why I have a couple questions:

 

Question 1: Is it explicitly stated that the players in Unchained X have multiple Keyblades or just one that changes appearance and type effectiveness?

 

Question 2: Are Keychains just placebos? Allow me to elaborate: the way I understand things, a Keyblade's appearance is based on the heart of its wielder, excepting those who received them from external sources (Sora, Mickey, Master Xehanort, and currently Aqua) as opposed to forging them themselves. Keychains are a physical token based on the memory of whomever or wherever a given wielder received them from and can change the Keyblade based on that memory. Does this mean that if Sora focused really intently on Kairi, would the Kingdom Key automatically transform into the Oathkeeper without him needing to attach her lucky charm or am I misunderstanding the mechanics?

 

 

If they follow the same rules, than it's likely Keychains

 

And that's pretty much what I've been going with. To be honest, we have literally no explination as the how Keychains work, while we equip them ourselves, we've never seen Sora actually attach any Keychains to the Keyblade, even those he has in a physical form. Every time we see the Wayfinder, it's not attached to anything. Maybe it's both. Maybe the Weafinder itself doesn't actually cluip opn to the Keyblade, but instread when he thinks of Kairi the Keychain attached to the Oathkeeper is more of a copy of the lucky charm than the real one. though there was one time in Days here we saw Roxas turn two kingdom Keys nto the Oathkeeper and Oblivion, and they just kind of flashed and changed.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jJtln5YwENs#t=5973

 

Long story short, we have no canon explination for any of this.

 

 

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I was thinking the wielder has its main Keyblade. And the Keyblades we obtain in different worlds are Keychains.

As we switch Keyblades, we are literally removing the main Keyblade's keychain and putting in one of the keychains we have obtained. Thus its appearance. (Pretty much what everybody is saying)

Edited September 21, 20169 yr by RikuFangirl2008

So what would happen if you removed the key chain from a keyblade and left it like that? Would it disappear? Or would it take a shadow form of the last appearance? Or would it not change at all?

There aren't too many in-universe explanations yet, but to me it kind of seems straightforward.

 

Since in Unchained we're in the earliest known use of the Keyblade (remember how all Keyblades are "manmade copies of the X-Blade"?), it kind of makes sense that for the most part all of the wielders are wielding copies of each others', they probably haven't gotten to the point where they can be truly unique enough (real world explanation, trying to make a unique Keyblade for each and every nameless wielder who you don't even focus on in KHX would have been a pain). It's not too jarring as by this point we've gotten used to seeing multiple people using the exact same Keyblade at once for a while now. Sora, Roxas, Xion, and Data-Sora all used their own versions of the Kingdom Key simultaniously. I'm not of the opinion that there is only ONE of each Keyblade/Keychain/whatever so it can only be used by one person at one time, as clearly that isn't the case here. So that would mean that each individual's Keyblade's default form depends on either the state of their heart or where they got it from. Since Sora got his from the Realm of Light that takes care of the where, and since everyone else mentioned is an extension of Sora, theirs take on the form of the Kingdom Key as well, despite the fact that Data Sora and Xion are both artificial and thus their Keyblades are artificial as well...although that probably doesn't mean a damn thing considering how powerful they become anyhow, so "fake" Keyblades are just as good as the originals as far as I'm concerned. So with all that in mind, it's not too mind-boggling that we can all wield the same Keyblades at the same time.

 

As for how the nature of Keychains and alternate appearances of said Keyblade work...well I guess that requires some more explanation on Nomura's part. At first it seems simple, you get a Keychain, you equip it on the Keyblade (off-screen), and your Keyblade changes appearance as a result. So okay, you need the Keychain to change the Keyblade's appearance, right? Well...maybe? It's hard to say with some characters. Roxas wielding two Kingdom Keys isn't too confusing now that we know multiple versions of the same one can exist, he's simply holding onto his own and Xion's, but the way they transform begs the question. Did he attach the Keychains to them? Did he just transform them through some other method? Did they do that on their own (it seems to be the case in the Days manga, as Roxas' Kingdom Key permanently transforms into Oathkeeper while he's fighting Saix, and Roxas does not have Kairi's good luck charm on him)? If it is Keychains, does he just magically get them? That can't be right, since Kairi's good luck charm is the only one that exists out there, there can't be more than one. I guess a way out of this is that you could argue that since Sora already got the Keychains for Oathkeeper and Oblivion, Roxas has them too, so instead of having to get the Keychains himself he just taps into Sora's power (probably unknowingly) to change the Keyblades into forms he's technically already accessed before as Sora. So basically, he's just borrowing what's already his.

 

Other characters aren't as easy to explain though. Sora basically has the good luck charm the whole time in KH2, but he doesn't unlock Oathkeeper until he visits Twilight Town again. I'm just going to chalk this up to him not even considering it until that point, and it makes sense as his vow to find and rescue Kairi is renewed, so it's only natural that he would try to draw on the strength of his promise to Kairi after learning of her kidnapping, so it makes sense that he didn't use it till then. And there's no doubt in my mind that Sora literally just attaches the charm to the Keyblade in order to transform it into Oathkeeper, it just makes sense to me. But then there's Aqua, who gives up her Keyblade to get Terra out of the Realm of Darkness, leaving her only with the Master's Defender to wield in the RoD. She only seemed to part with one Keyblade and we don't get to see individual Keychains in cutscenes so we don't get to confirm if she gave those up too. But for the sake of simplicity I'm just going to assume that the Keychains were sent with the Keyblade...or something...it depends on how the actually work....yeah, this is starting to get confusing now.

 

Not to mention the fact that Aqua has a Keychain that turns her Keyblade into Destiny's Embrace...yet that Keyblade is Kairi's Keyblade's default form...

 

And I don't know if they ever confirmed if Riku's Souleater literally turned into Way To The Dawn or not...

 

And while it's our choice to equip whatever Keyblades we want to in BbS, is it "canon" that Terra and Aqua's Keyblades became Ends Of The Earth and Stormfall? And if so, was it because they equipped those Keychains, or did the Keyblades just "evolve" like they do in Unchained?

 

...Yeah, this one lost me, I really hope at some point Nomura goes into more detail about things like this.

@ Kingdomhe Yes, the player's Keyblade automatically transformed but it still doesn't explain why.

 

 

@ Hero Of Light XIV The way I figured it, Xion's Keyblade was real the whole time. Early in Days she was technically using Roxas's and thus Sora's Kingdom Key which is why Roxas had to use a stick a couple times. Later, when Xion's heart was becoming more developed, she got her own Keyblade but because she was literally made of Sora, it still took the form of the Kingdom Key. Unless I'm wrong and just misremembering things again. In my defense, I only played Days once so I probably don't recall a scene where it's explicitly stated that Xion was given a fake Keyblade. Or there was no scene like that and it was only stated in an interview or guide book in which case *shakes fist at Nomura again* That being said, I like your reasoning and it shall be my new headcanon until proven otherwise.

 

But this raises another question: if the Master Of Masters is indeed the very first Keyblade wielder then where did he get the ability to do so? It's stated repeatedly that to gain the ability to use a Keyblade, one must get it from a Master or a wielder of equivalent power but there were no masters before him. Did he somehow get in contact with either Kingdom Hearts or the X-Blade to learn from those or did his Future Eye have something to do with it?