I PUT THIS THREAD IN FUTURE OF KH BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH TAV.
Hi peoples! I have started a thread today about an analyzation of the KH2 Japanese theme song, Passion.
Now as you all know(or I hope you know), this is a song written by Utada Hikaru, aka, Hikki. In my unevitable boredom of this day, I looked up the english translation of this song and noticed a few things about it. First of all, in the video, the area around her in the first part(not the animated one) looks a LOT like The Castle That Never Was, aka, the home of Organization XIII. And all of the people around her look like nobodies. Especially the ones that dance around her when she comes to that circular room. They look similar to the Dancer nobodies. She also seems to control them, as if she was Xemnas. Now, I'm sure many people have noticed this and I know for a fact that many people have already speculated about it. Here's a link to the video and translation on Anime lyrics:
For those of you who are too lazy to click on the link(lol), here's the translation for you:
"When I remember far far back
The future was bright for as far as I can see
Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we were a little afraid
The windows are becoming stained with a nostalgic color
If I face forward will I meet you again?
The future continues on and on
Underneath a large signboard
I want to watch as the times change
I open the window
to those people and places I can never go to
When I remember far far back
The future was bright for as far as I can see
Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we would keep sleeping
The person I loved a long time ago,
it appears a child is going to be born in the winter
Sometimes I want to have doubt
over the settlement we had in the past
I still can't forget
I wonder if the New Year's card will have a photo
I think back to the things we couldn't do together and find them dear
Underneath the blue sky..."
I think I have some more to offer with this theory right here:
WARNING: PEOPLE WHO HATE THE TERRA+MASTER XEHANORT=APPRENTICE XEHANORT OF ANSEM THE WISE, BEWARE.
Now then, as you all know, this video is very symbolic of the castle that never was because, first of all, there a bunch of people who look like Nobodies inside of it. Secondly, there's a part where the ceiling is shown at 1:36. This resembles a lot of the structures inside of the Nobodies' home. To get a closer look, there's a part where Utada looks up at these strange things at 1:44. Now, I know I haven't mentioned anything about the future of KH, but hold on for a second.
We all know that there's a pretty big theory going around about MX+Terra=Young Xehanort Human. I'm not going to explain this theory because I'm sure you guys are all either sick of it, or have heard it millions of times. If not, then just ask and I'll explain.
Okay, so I'll talk about the whole structure of the video:
So we all know the common theory that I mentioned above, right? Personally, I do believe that idea, but I also believe that the two parts of Xehanort are images of Terra and Master Xehanort. That being Ansem Seeker of Darkness=MX side, and Xemnas=Terra side. Concluding this, I also believe that MX's HEART went into Terra near the end of the battle, but for some reason his body and soul are gone. I don't know what this exact reason is, but I'm speculating that it has to do withhis interaction with Kingdom Hearts. Anyways, Geezernort fuses with Terra and somehow Terra's heart leaves. IDK why, but maybe it's because he didn't like sharing a body with MX. I wouldn't either.
Now then, when Xehy the apprentice came along, we all know that he delved into Darkness and was split into two. One being Dark Ansem and another being Xemnas. While Sexy Ansem is made from the heart of MX, Xemnas is completely made out of Terra, being his soul and body. Thus, Xehanort Apprentice=MX heart+Terra soul and body.
Now then, the video of Passion that Utada made was meant to resemble Xemnas and the nobodies+their home in some way due to its striking resemblance. Sadly, the only thing I've seen in the video about Terra=Xemnas is when Utada(Xemnas) is seen "remembering" something, then the screen changes to a scene where there are a bunch of horses running around. Then you see her in the middle of the same field singing alone. This may be just me, but does anyone else seem to think that it somewhat resembles Sunset Horizons/The Gathering Place?
I know, I know, that isn't much of a point. Maybe Utada just likes horses. I dunno. But when that scene changes to where she's singing alone, it just totally reminds me of Sunset Horizons so much(exceot that there's no sand, rocks or dust), as it's Xemnas remembering that exact place and being in it. That's probably just me though. There I go again with my stupid ideas...
Anyways, I think the lyrics in English hold much more treasure. Here's my analyzation of the lyrics that I think are Xemnas talking about his time as Terra. I'll go line by line:
"When I remember far far back, the future was as bright for as far as I can see"
This line is about Xemnas speaking about being Terra and about how when he was that person, he seemed to think that there was no pain or darkness ahead. On this, I'm just guessing Terra's personality.
"Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we were a little afraid"
This line strikes me about as much as the last. Again, I think it's about Xemnas referring to Terra and how him and Aqua and Ven weren't afraid of their journey to find MX at first.
"The windows are becoming stained with a nostalgic color"
This one doesn't seem as important to me as the last two. All I can speculate is that it's Xemnas speaking about him having no emotions as a Nobody, the windows being his eyes upon the world and him seeeing everything as gray or dull since he doesn't have the ability to feel.
"If I face forward will I meet you again?"
This one is quite strange. Maybe it's him as Terra asking if he will see/meet either Aqua or Ven again, since they are best friends.
"The future continues on and on
Underneath a large signboard"
I'm stumped on this. Xemnas talking about the world going by so fast? The signboard has no significance to me.
"I want to watch as the times change"
I think this line is about Xemnas...I really don't know. lol,
"I open the window
to those people and places I can never go to"
Xemnas opens his eyes to the people(Aqua and Ven) and worlds he can't go to anymore. This one also leaves me blank pretty much. Maybe the Terra inside of him is sad that he won't be able to see his best friends and all of the worlds he visited anymore? I know that's cheesy, but hang on with me.
"Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we would keep sleeping"
This, I think, is the biggest of all of them. We all know that the term "Sleep" and "Sleeping" comes up constantly, and is even in the title of TAV's spotlight game. SPOILER WARNING FOR 358/2 Days!!!!!
When Roxas is knocked out for a few weeks during the events of Days, Xemnas walks up to him on his bed and strangely says, "So you are still sleeping...". Does this mean he was referring to his lookalike friend, Ven? Maybe, that I'm also speculating that's what he meant. But what exactly does "sleeping" mean? Maybe the "we" refers to all three of TAV sleeping on and on for some reason. I still don't know what the term "Sleep" in BBS means, but I'm sure has a big role. Then there's also the infamous Room of Sleep.
The only other lines in the song after this point that I find interesting are, "Sometimes I want to have doubt
over the settlement we had in the past", meaning that Terra wants to doubt everything that happened in the past, "I still can't forget", meaning that Terra can't forget what happened even now, and "I think back to the things we couldn't do together and find them dear". That one is another stumper for me. Maybe Terra having a normal life with A and V? I dunno. That sounds cheesy to me. Well, something like that.
I know that this is all major speculation and is mostly putting too much stock in a song that was written even before the idea of BBS(I think), but maybe it does. I'm just taking a guess.
Sorry for it being so long. I was bored today and thought about putting a theory/speculation thread up on this site.
Anyways, please reply and tell me your thoughts. NO FLAMING OR CALLING ME STUPID. I ALREADY DID THAT FOR YOU. LOL.
Sorry if this idea of Passion being Xemnas remembering himself as Terra has already been put up.
I PUT THIS THREAD IN FUTURE OF KH BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH TAV.
Hi peoples! I have started a thread today about an analyzation of the KH2 Japanese theme song, Passion.
Now as you all know(or I hope you know), this is a song written by Utada Hikaru, aka, Hikki. In my unevitable boredom of this day, I looked up the english translation of this song and noticed a few things about it. First of all, in the video, the area around her in the first part(not the animated one) looks a LOT like The Castle That Never Was, aka, the home of Organization XIII. And all of the people around her look like nobodies. Especially the ones that dance around her when she comes to that circular room. They look similar to the Dancer nobodies. She also seems to control them, as if she was Xemnas. Now, I'm sure many people have noticed this and I know for a fact that many people have already speculated about it. Here's a link to the video and translation on Anime lyrics:
Utada-Passion Video plus lyrics and translation
For those of you who are too lazy to click on the link(lol), here's the translation for you:
"When I remember far far back
The future was bright for as far as I can see
Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we were a little afraid
The windows are becoming stained with a nostalgic color
If I face forward will I meet you again?
The future continues on and on
Underneath a large signboard
I want to watch as the times change
I open the window
to those people and places I can never go to
When I remember far far back
The future was bright for as far as I can see
Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we would keep sleeping
The person I loved a long time ago,
it appears a child is going to be born in the winter
Sometimes I want to have doubt
over the settlement we had in the past
I still can't forget
I wonder if the New Year's card will have a photo
I think back to the things we couldn't do together and find them dear
Underneath the blue sky..."
I think I have some more to offer with this theory right here:
WARNING: PEOPLE WHO HATE THE TERRA+MASTER XEHANORT=APPRENTICE XEHANORT OF ANSEM THE WISE, BEWARE.
Now then, as you all know, this video is very symbolic of the castle that never was because, first of all, there a bunch of people who look like Nobodies inside of it. Secondly, there's a part where the ceiling is shown at 1:36. This resembles a lot of the structures inside of the Nobodies' home. To get a closer look, there's a part where Utada looks up at these strange things at 1:44. Now, I know I haven't mentioned anything about the future of KH, but hold on for a second.
We all know that there's a pretty big theory going around about MX+Terra=Young Xehanort Human. I'm not going to explain this theory because I'm sure you guys are all either sick of it, or have heard it millions of times. If not, then just ask and I'll explain.
Okay, so I'll talk about the whole structure of the video:
So we all know the common theory that I mentioned above, right? Personally, I do believe that idea, but I also believe that the two parts of Xehanort are images of Terra and Master Xehanort. That being Ansem Seeker of Darkness=MX side, and Xemnas=Terra side. Concluding this, I also believe that MX's HEART went into Terra near the end of the battle, but for some reason his body and soul are gone. I don't know what this exact reason is, but I'm speculating that it has to do withhis interaction with Kingdom Hearts. Anyways, Geezernort fuses with Terra and somehow Terra's heart leaves. IDK why, but maybe it's because he didn't like sharing a body with MX. I wouldn't either.
Now then, when Xehy the apprentice came along, we all know that he delved into Darkness and was split into two. One being Dark Ansem and another being Xemnas. While Sexy Ansem is made from the heart of MX, Xemnas is completely made out of Terra, being his soul and body. Thus, Xehanort Apprentice=MX heart+Terra soul and body.
Now then, the video of Passion that Utada made was meant to resemble Xemnas and the nobodies+their home in some way due to its striking resemblance. Sadly, the only thing I've seen in the video about Terra=Xemnas is when Utada(Xemnas) is seen "remembering" something, then the screen changes to a scene where there are a bunch of horses running around. Then you see her in the middle of the same field singing alone. This may be just me, but does anyone else seem to think that it somewhat resembles Sunset Horizons/The Gathering Place?
I know, I know, that isn't much of a point. Maybe Utada just likes horses. I dunno. But when that scene changes to where she's singing alone, it just totally reminds me of Sunset Horizons so much(exceot that there's no sand, rocks or dust), as it's Xemnas remembering that exact place and being in it. That's probably just me though. There I go again with my stupid ideas...
Anyways, I think the lyrics in English hold much more treasure. Here's my analyzation of the lyrics that I think are Xemnas talking about his time as Terra. I'll go line by line:
"When I remember far far back, the future was as bright for as far as I can see"
This line is about Xemnas speaking about being Terra and about how when he was that person, he seemed to think that there was no pain or darkness ahead. On this, I'm just guessing Terra's personality.
"Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we were a little afraid"
This line strikes me about as much as the last. Again, I think it's about Xemnas referring to Terra and how him and Aqua and Ven weren't afraid of their journey to find MX at first.
"The windows are becoming stained with a nostalgic color"
This one doesn't seem as important to me as the last two. All I can speculate is that it's Xemnas speaking about him having no emotions as a Nobody, the windows being his eyes upon the world and him seeeing everything as gray or dull since he doesn't have the ability to feel.
"If I face forward will I meet you again?"
This one is quite strange. Maybe it's him as Terra asking if he will see/meet either Aqua or Ven again, since they are best friends.
"The future continues on and on
Underneath a large signboard"
I'm stumped on this. Xemnas talking about the world going by so fast? The signboard has no significance to me.
"I want to watch as the times change"
I think this line is about Xemnas...I really don't know. lol,
"I open the window
to those people and places I can never go to"
Xemnas opens his eyes to the people(Aqua and Ven) and worlds he can't go to anymore. This one also leaves me blank pretty much. Maybe the Terra inside of him is sad that he won't be able to see his best friends and all of the worlds he visited anymore? I know that's cheesy, but hang on with me.
"Underneath the beautiful blue sky
we would keep sleeping"
This, I think, is the biggest of all of them. We all know that the term "Sleep" and "Sleeping" comes up constantly, and is even in the title of TAV's spotlight game. SPOILER WARNING FOR 358/2 Days!!!!!
When Roxas is knocked out for a few weeks during the events of Days, Xemnas walks up to him on his bed and strangely says, "So you are still sleeping...". Does this mean he was referring to his lookalike friend, Ven? Maybe, that I'm also speculating that's what he meant. But what exactly does "sleeping" mean? Maybe the "we" refers to all three of TAV sleeping on and on for some reason. I still don't know what the term "Sleep" in BBS means, but I'm sure has a big role. Then there's also the infamous Room of Sleep.
The only other lines in the song after this point that I find interesting are, "Sometimes I want to have doubt
over the settlement we had in the past", meaning that Terra wants to doubt everything that happened in the past, "I still can't forget", meaning that Terra can't forget what happened even now, and "I think back to the things we couldn't do together and find them dear". That one is another stumper for me. Maybe Terra having a normal life with A and V? I dunno. That sounds cheesy to me. Well, something like that.
I know that this is all major speculation and is mostly putting too much stock in a song that was written even before the idea of BBS(I think), but maybe it does. I'm just taking a guess.
Sorry for it being so long. I was bored today and thought about putting a theory/speculation thread up on this site.
Anyways, please reply and tell me your thoughts. NO FLAMING OR CALLING ME STUPID. I ALREADY DID THAT FOR YOU. LOL.
Sorry if this idea of Passion being Xemnas remembering himself as Terra has already been put up.