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The 7 Lights vs the 13 Darknesses (Spoilers)

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For those that have beat the game, who do you think the remaining members/vessels could be (except the ones we've seen)?

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Terranort ultimately became a heartless through his own will. I don't see how he wouldn't fit as a darkness.

 

I was referring to present-day Terra. Terranort time-traveled from the past is highly possible, though.

Idk why but something tells me a darkness would be either namine or xion

Who knows I mean the organization used them both before

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Idk why but something tells me a darkness would be either namine or xion

Who knows I mean the organization used them both before

 

Possibly... but Namine is back inside Kairi & Xion is back inside Sora, don't think either would be "good" enough for MX's vessels.

Something tells me that somehow Eraqus will resurrect from the dead and somehow aid Sora and co. in their fight, and be killed again by Xehanort (Master Xehanort).

Something tells me that somehow Eraqus will resurrect from the dead and somehow aid Sora and co. in their fight, and be killed again by Xehanort (Master Xehanort).

 

Either that, or he kills Xehanort from behind this time, and then tries to use the X-Blade/KH/whatever to rid the universe of Darkness, becoming the True Final Boss of KH3.

Either that, or he kills Xehanort from behind this time, and then tries to use the X-Blade/KH/whatever to rid the universe of Darkness, becoming the True Final Boss of KH3.

 

That would be strange.

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Hey everyone; just found this forum, so thought i'd join up :)

 

From what i gathered from 3D's is that -

 

The whole point of it was do the mark of mastery and retrieve the power to save Terra, Ven and Aqua.

 

For the 7 Lights:

 

During the long conversation at the end between Mickey and Master Xehanort; Mickey mentions that the seven lights are: Sora, Riku, Mickey, his three friends (Terra, Aqua and Ven) then doesn't say the seventh but we know that its Kairi. However due to Terra being still Terranort at this point by the looks of things; I think that Lea will replace him until Terra is saved (probably via waking Terra's heart up by pushing out Xehanorts heart to take back control of his body)

 

So it will probably be Sora, Kairi, Riku, Ven, Aqua, Terra/Lea and Mickey

 

For the 13 Darknesses:

 

Now the Darknesses gets a bit tricky but I think it might be one of two possibilities

 

During the game; Axel and a few others wake up back to normal and later on he mentions that not all the Organisation is there so that means they awoke somewhere else. So taking away Vexen/Even, Xaldin/Dilan, Lexaeus/Aeleus, Zexion/Ienzo and Roxas we are left with 7 Organisation members; we know Xigbar/Braig and Saix/Isa are part of it already along with Xemnas, so if the other 4 are still in there then that would make it

 

Master Xehanort, Young Xehanort, Xemnas, Ansem, Xigbar/Braig, Saix/Isa, Larxene, Marluxia, Luxord, Demyx; which makes 10, then looking at it Terranort is probably there and I think Ansem/Riku will be there as seen in Pranksters Paradise. So thats 12 out of 13, the 13th was going to be Sora but that messed up so at the moment we don't know who the 13th would be.

 

However the problem with that is that we never knew Larxene, Marluxia, Luxord or Demyx's reals names or where they came from so for all we know they could have become proper humans again. But in saying that; i doubt out of the original Organisation XIII that only Xemnas, Xigbar and Saix are the only ones, so possibly a couple of the 4 may be there and the rest are filled with different Xehanorts that we haven't seen.

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Hey everyone; just found this forum, so thought i'd join up :)

 

From what i gathered from 3D's is that -

 

The whole point of it was do the mark of mastery and retrieve the power to save Terra, Ven and Aqua.

 

For the 7 Lights:

 

During the long conversation at the end between Mickey and Master Xehanort; Mickey mentions that the seven lights are: Sora, Riku, Mickey, his three friends (Terra, Aqua and Ven) then doesn't say the seventh but we know that its Kairi. However due to Terra being still Terranort at this point by the looks of things; I think that Lea will replace him until Terra is saved (probably via waking Terra's heart up by pushing out Xehanorts heart to take back control of his body)

 

So it will probably be Sora, Kairi, Riku, Ven, Aqua, Terra/Lea and Mickey

 

For the 13 Darknesses:

 

Now the Darknesses gets a bit tricky but I think it might be one of two possibilities

 

During the game; Axel and a few others wake up back to normal and later on he mentions that not all the Organisation is there so that means they awoke somewhere else. So taking away Vexen/Even, Xaldin/Dilan, Lexaeus/Aeleus, Zexion/Ienzo and Roxas we are left with 7 Organisation members; we know Xigbar/Braig and Saix/Isa are part of it already along with Xemnas, so if the other 4 are still in there then that would make it

 

Master Xehanort, Young Xehanort, Xemnas, Ansem, Xigbar/Braig, Saix/Isa, Larxene, Marluxia, Luxord, Demyx; which makes 10, then looking at it Terranort is probably there and I think Ansem/Riku will be there as seen in Pranksters Paradise. So thats 12 out of 13, the 13th was going to be Sora but that messed up so at the moment we don't know who the 13th would be.

 

However the problem with that is that we never knew Larxene, Marluxia, Luxord or Demyx's reals names or where they came from so for all we know they could have become proper humans again. But in saying that; i doubt out of the original Organisation XIII that only Xemnas, Xigbar and Saix are the only ones, so possibly a couple of the 4 may be there and the rest are filled with different Xehanorts that we haven't seen.

 

Alternatively, the "Terranort" you're talking about could just be the past version of him from BBS, while Terra himself could be elsewhere.

 

Terra vs. Terranort in KH3, anyone?

I won't quote it again to save making it an extremely longer post xD

 

I'd love to see Terra vs Terranort; technically Terranort should have been reformed when we originally defeated Ansem and Xemnas so he could be out there somewhere; but if not then either present or past we'll have to fight him in order to save Terra (but if there are two Terranorts one present and one past then the Terra could fight the one from the past)

So wait is vanitas back or not. Did he return beacuse he was next to YMX. or is vanitas back to vens heart which is in sora so vanitas is in sora as well

Lights: Sora, Riku, Kairi, Lea, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven

 

I think that before Aqua and Ven are rescued that Donald and Goofy will act as "temporary" lights, because no where does it say that the lights need to be Keyblade wielders. As MX said, Terra is still under his control, so I can't see him being a light.

 

Darknesses: MX, YMX, Ansem SoD, Xemnas, Xigbar, Saix, Vanitas, Riku Replica, Terra, Demyx, Luxord, Larxene, Marluxia

 

Vanitas - My would MX ditch his sidekick now? With his appearance in the City of Bells, I think it's safe to say that Vanitas will return.

 

Riku Replica - According to the Chronicle of Chain of Memories, it states that he "seemingly" died. He could be a great use to MX as he originally wanted Riku as a member, so why not get a Replica?

 

Luxord - I believe that he may be a darkness because of how long he lasted in KH2. He died before the leader and second in command, which makes me believe that he has some importance. His element is time, so he would be a perfect fit.

 

*Demyx - I feel as if he could be a darkness, he just might have been considered weak by Xemnas.

 

*Marluxia and Larxene - Yes they are traitors. Yes they probably aren't darknesses, but we still lack their back story, along with the above two.

 

*If any of these aren't included, I expect new characters to be introduced, or, surpirse plot twist, Eraqus, to fill the remaining slots.

New premotinion, the somebodys of the org 13 as the bodyguards of the seven light (excluding Isa an Braig, who are at XH's side, not for nothing Isa was the right hand of xemnas), then the 13 darkness must first overcome them, meanwhile Mickey and the others are looking for the 7th light.

Well... dreaming is free xD

We are missing 1 light Terra, as said in the game is one of the Darknesses, so Yen Sid might have to come out of retiernment if we cant find someone else to step in and since Vanitas is still apart of Ventus he may be the last Darkness. In the ending were Ansem the Wise is talking to Riku about how Sora can bring all of those that are lost back maybe there will be more defenders of the 7 Hearts of Pure Light.

The Only People Who Can Be Darknesses Are The Nobodies Who Have Yellow Eyes And Pointy Elf-y Ears So My Guess For Anyone Whos Apart Of The 13 Darknesses Are:

Xehanort,

Vanitas,

Young Xehanort,

Ansem, Seeker Of Darkness,

Xemnas,

Braig,

Isa,

Terra-Nort,

I Dont Think Anyone Else Can Be A Nort/Darkness From Org.XIII Because No Other Member Shows The Nort "Symptons" Like Pointy Ears Or Yellow Eyes.

 

7 Lights:

Sora,

Riku,

Kairi,

Terra (At The End),

Ventus,

Aqua,

Mickey;

I Think Lea Or "Axel" Will Be Like Donald And Goofy Who Will Just Be Supports To The Last Battle.

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