so i was watching the cutscenes for 358/2 days and i saw the scene where Saix and Axel discussed the chamber of repose and awakening and i had a couple of questions. 1. How do they know about the chambers? 2. what other goals does saix have? 3.what would they think if they actually found the chamber of awakening? and 4. how would vexen and zexion get in saix's way? thanks guys

Axel/Lea wants to find his old friend Ven. Saix/Isa does too because his friend does. All subconsciously of course; thus, they are drawn to the mysterious castle.

Edited September 15, 201312 yr by Sikota Urinakano

they dont even know ven's there though

1. I don't know. I mean, WE don't know or did I miss something? Then again Xigbar also knows about them, but he's a spying creep. No wonder he knows,

 

2. Beside the goal to overthrow Xemnas and getting a heart? After watching the cutscenes all over again it feels like he also kinda wants his friendship with Axel/Lea back somehow more and more, at least I felt it. Though I don't know if that's truly a goal and if it is he didn't really do anything to archieve it.

 

3. Hard to tell. Not able to read minds (of game characters) and fortune telling, are we?

 

4. I heard Zexion was like a second in command or something close. At least Xemnas trusted him and he was definitely one of the members who knew the most. Saix wanted to climb the ladder and Zexion and also Vexen who was the same as Zexion, would've gotten in his way one way or another. Especially since they were very loyal. Not to mention they're two of the 6 original members.

1. ok yea 

2. i can kinda see that but saix became cold and distant, ultimately becoming a xehanort puppet

3. haha maybe i kinda wanna see axel's reaction to seeing ven again

4. true true sneaky men they be

1. Axel was ordered by Xemnas to find the CoA.

2. To overthrow Xemnas,,

3. IDK, Maybe Axel would remember him, Maybe not. Saix definitely wouldn't. I'm sure they'd both be surprised how much he looked like Roxas, maybe Saix would even think one of them was a Replica of the other?

4.I think it has something to do with that line in CoM when Axel tricked Repliku into killing Zexion "You just found out way too much" maybe he learned about Axel and Saix's plans?

Edited September 15, 201312 yr by Isamu_Kuno

That's true, but in the 3D cutscene where he briefly shows himself, he seemed not happy about all that. Could just be my imagination though. But I find it funny that he kept calling Xion a puppet, yet he was and is one himself. 

 

Yeah me as well. But I always wondered, since Roxas looks like Ventus, why both, Axel and Saix never even showed signs of confusion about that. I think they were old enough back when they met him to be able to remember how he looked and what his name was. I really don't know. KH will always screw my mind. But then again Axel could be attached to Roxas exactly because he looks like Ventus. Who knows. 

true that i hope they do something in kh3 when ven awakens and see's lea for the first time

so i was watching the cutscenes for 358/2 days and i saw the scene where Saix and Axel discussed the chamber of repose and awakening and i had a couple of questions. 1. How do they know about the chambers? 2. what other goals does saix have? 3.what would they think if they actually found the chamber of awakening? and 4. how would vexen and zexion get in saix's way? thanks guys

 

1- Xemnas knows and told them . In fact he sent the org members to search for them 

2- Saix's goal was to take over the org with Axel bc they didn't trust Xemnas and didn't believe they would really get their hearts back 

3- Who knows but maybe Axel might remember more about Ven . He did say Roxas reminded him about something in his childhood .He just didn't seem to know what . But, really, they met for 5 minutes over a decade ago . So its reasonable to not remember everything.

4- They were both very loyal to Xemnas and to the cause so they had to go . Especially after both knew what went down in CO. That and Zexion stood to take over as second in command one day. Eliminating Zexion had numerous purposes in that sense- moving him up the ladder ..Axel did say he regretted Vexen though but felt like he had to to prove himself to Marluxia which was needed to gain his trust .

Edited September 15, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea

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1- Xemnas knows and told them . In fact he sent the org members to search for them 

2- Saix's goal was to take over the org with Axel bc they didn't trust Xemnas and didn't believe they would really get their hearts back 

3- Who knows but maybe Axel might remember more about Ven . He did say Roxas reminded him about something in his childhood .He just didn't seem to know what . But, really, they met for 5 minutes over a decade ago . So its reasonable to not remember everything.

4- They were both very loyal to Xemnas and to the cause so they had to go . Especially after both knew what went down in CO. That and Zexion stood to take over as second in command one day. Eliminating Zexion had numerous purposes in that sense- moving him up the ladder ..Axel did say he regretted Vexen though but felt like he had to to prove himself to Marluxia which was needed to gain his trust .

1. yea xemnas wanted ven for whatever reason that also asks the question of why xemnas wanted ven

2. well they were right

3. yea true

4. yea i liked them both but i can see why it was necessary

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1. yea xemnas wanted ven for whatever reason that also asks the question of why xemnas wanted ven

2. well they were right

3. yea true

4. yea i liked them both but i can see why it was necessary

 

Xemnas creates The Chamber of Repose, and puts Aqua�s armor there which he calls �friend�.

 

 

Q12: Why is Xemnas searching for The Chamber of Awakening?

A: To find Ventus.

 

The Chamber of Awakening is the room where Aqua leaves Ventus sleeping in Last Episode, and is a part of Castle Oblivion. As you can see from Xemnas calling Aqua�s armor �friend�, it seems Xemnas has Terra�s memories and so is searching for Ventus, and is making the other Organization members look for The Chamber of Awakening.

 

There are three ways to think about this .

 

1- Its the Terra in him that searches for his friend 

2- that Xehanort wants to find and use Ven for his plan 

3- It's a little of both since both Terra and Xehanort as AX make Xemnas 

 

Personally I think it was number 1 at first due to the plot of DDD not even being planned at that point in time . Now that DDD does exist it could retcon this to Xehanort needing Ven as a vessel but still having conflicting interests due to the Terra in him searching for his friend making number 3 more plausible  in the current plot . 

Xemnas creates The Chamber of Repose, and puts Aqua�s armor there which he calls �friend�.

 

 

Q12: Why is Xemnas searching for The Chamber of Awakening?

A: To find Ventus.

 

The Chamber of Awakening is the room where Aqua leaves Ventus sleeping in Last Episode, and is a part of Castle Oblivion. As you can see from Xemnas calling Aqua�s armor �friend�, it seems Xemnas has Terra�s memories and so is searching for Ventus, and is making the other Organization members look for The Chamber of Awakening.

 

There are three ways to think about this .

 

1- Its the Terra in him that searches for his friend 

2- that Xehanort wants to find and use Ven for his plan 

3- It's a little of both since both Terra and Xehanort as AX make Xemnas 

 

Personally I think it was number 1 at first due to the plot of DDD not even being planned at that point in time . Now that DDD does exist it could retcon this to Xehanort needing Ven as a vessel but still having conflicting interests due to the Terra in him searching for his friend making number 3 more plausible  in the current plot . 

i could see what you mean ven still wouldnt havent woken up even if they found him i wonder if would have a reaction to roxas

i could see what you mean ven still wouldnt havent woken up even if they found him i wonder if would have a reaction to roxas

 If who would have a reaction to Roxas? Ven? 

yea ven sorry should have been clearer

Roxas in Days : Literally had a reaction aka fainting due to being too close to his original selves ( Ven and Sora who were both in CO at the time )

 

Roxas in KH3  : Since DDD proved Roxas also grew his own heart and is his own separate person as stated by Sora he can be brought back without using Ven's heart and Sora's body given what the hidden data Ansem the Wise hid and then eventually gave Riku insinuated  ( to be able to bring back fallen comrades ) . So then the question is ,since the heart shapes the vessel , what will Roxas look like then ? . His heart will base his image off his own new heart he grew and memories . Prolly how he sees himself just like Xion sees herself as the black haired girl . So i guess it depends on if he will still look like Ven or not . Either way it will be interesting to see how they handle this .

Roxas in Days : Literally had a reaction aka fainting due to being too close to his original selves ( Ven and Sora who were both in CO at the time )

 

Roxas in KH3  : Since DDD proved Roxas also grew his own heart and is his own separate person as stated by Sora he can be brought back without using Ven's heart and Sora's body given what the hidden data Ansem the Wise hid and then eventually gave Riku insinuated  ( to be able to bring back fallen comrades ) . So then the question is ,since the heart shapes the vessel , what will Roxas look like then ? . His heart will base his image off his own new heart he grew and memories . Prolly how he sees himself just like Xion sees herself as the black haired girl . So i guess it depends on if he will still look like Ven or not . Either way it will be interesting to see how they handle this .

oh yea i forgot bout that