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I've clicked quote 100000 times and nothing's happening so sorry that you won't get a notification that I posted (or that you might get 100000 if they show up after I click post lol) but let's recap because I'm confused now Me: Present an argument as to why gender roles are bad and feminism is necessary You: "you will just say it's the patriarchy and dismiss everything I say" Me: Points out I have never ever done this You: "i don't agree with feminists" ???? that literally has nothing to do with what I said lol. I mean we can either get back on track here or continue discussing this privately because it appears not only have we gone offtopic and started talking about feminism, but now we've even gone offtopic from that.

lol i'd report this in the issues thread but threads aren't working

every page i click says "error not found"?? is anyone else having this problem?? only kh13 seems to be malfunctioning

I never ever tried to refute you by saying the patriarchy lmao you just made that up. And no I don't plan on watching an hour long antifeminist video - I know all the antifeminist views, I've heard the arguments. I'm not going to waste an hour listening to someone say I don't need equal rights

It's also shown that kids are deeply impacted by what the people around them do. For instance, a little boy who might not have chosen to play with Barbies if he was an only child will play with them if he has an older sister who he observed playing with them. Kids will mimic what they're shown in the world, so if they're taught that boys do this and girls do that it's a horrible lesson they'll carry with them for probably life. If all influences in the world were taken away it's likely there'd be a pretty even mix. It might be skewed that yeah, 60% of girls prefer dolls while 40% prefer Legos or something of the sort. There's still a large number of kids who are being taught they should conform to how a certain gender should dress/act/play before they even understand it. I'm exhausted so that was probably terribly worded but hopefully you get my point. There were antifeminist women back when we were still fighting to get the vote - were they right too? Of course not. One intelligent woman saying there's no need for feminism doesn't change the fact that it's needed in women's lives. It might impact some women less than others, and thankfully we've gotten (mostly) even on a legal standing, but there's still a social issue. There are still women being murdered for being women (see that sick Santa Barbara shooter, the Canadian antifeminst shooter, and like 100000 other sources) there is still a bias that is preventing women from going into STEM fields. There is still a bias in the courts - for example, MRAs and antifeminists like to claim that women get an advantage when trying to get custody of a child. Women more often get the child because it's not often contested, but when it is, it's more likely for a man to get custody even if the mother is able to show that he isn't a fit parent. In most cases if the father tries to get sole custody he'll win unless the mother can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he's like a rapist or a child molestor or drug abuser or something serious that the courts are unable to ignore (and in some cases he can still win the child). There's the issue of contraceptives and women's reproductive rights - something that has literally nothing to do with men, but when it comes to a vote, 81% of Congress is male (which means men are getting to decide what women can do with their bodies). Which brings me to another issue - 81% of Congress is male when it should be somewhere around the ~50% mark. There is still the issue of rapists rarely being prosecuted (only 3% see jail time and the military desperately tries to cover up rape statistics and ignore the problem) and the fact that in 31 states a rapist can sue for custody of their rape baby. There is still the fact that 1 in 4 women will be sexually abused (and more women have been murdered by their boyfriends/husbands than have been killed in all of America's wars in the past 20 years in a very short period of time - in ~5 years. That doesn't even begin to talk about how many women are abused.) There are still the people who claim the wage gap (which is proven by government statistics to exist) isn't real. There is the fact that with the advent of the internet we're seeing how many men regard women as lesser. We don't need feminism in the same way we used to, but there's a plethora of awful violent issues facing women today. Would you rather we ignore this laundry list of issues and let women suffer, or would you prefer we keep fighting the feminist fight to make things equal?

I'll agree with most of that. I don't mean when they're a little baby - wearing all of a certain color and using certain pronouns means nothing to a baby and it won't for quite a long time. I'm talking about gender roles being enforced in the way that "oh I have a daughter? Well better start buying barbies and signing up for ballet classes. You want Legos? No, I think you'll like Barbies more, I'll get you those instead." I was referring to my own experiences in my post, and I was trying to say that gender roles are bad across the board because I was intimidated to ask for Legos. I loved princesses but for a few years I wanted to be a Jedi but I thought they'd think I was weird so I went with another princess costume. While they might not impact everyone negatively, it reinforces in kids heads pretty early that "boys do this and girls do that" which can be a pretty harmful stereotype. It's a large part of the reason why there aren't a lot of women in STEM fields - not because they aren't smart enough, but it's not the sort of things girls are often taught to aspire to. Well if you wanna get technical it's the opposite sex, not the opposite gender. It's not actually what appeals to the majority - it's just that we live in a patriarchal society that says girls like dolls and boys like legos. Kids, if not bound by gender roles, are pretty open to anything. You'd see a lot more boys in princess costumes playing with Barbies and girls in Spiderman costumes playing with GI Joes if they weren't (albeit subconsciously) taught that it's "supposed" to be the other way around. There would still be plenty of girls in princess costumes and boys in Spiderman costumes, but if gender roles weren't imposed on kids from birth there'd be a lot more diversity (and I'll use this example again since I think it's a prime one: there'd be more women in STEM fields if they weren't turned off from them by gender roles and other related factors at a young age)

I'm gonna say it's pretty sexist that I was given Barbies and pink tutus and ballet classes while my brother got Legos, childrens' science classes (btw, both things I asked for and wasn't given), etc. And giving a child a gender identity is pretty gross too so either way it was wrong.

^^^^^ THIS Just to add my own personal experience (and to refute Cucco's argument): I've been a princess every single year since birth for Halloween. I LOVE princesses, I love wearing dresses and cute shoes and everything feminine. My parents put me in ballet and ice skating classes and encouraged me to pursue Girl Scouts. Everything about my upbringing is the stereotypical sexist way to bring up a female child. So why do I like girls? My mom cried when I told her and my uncle (who I don't like anyway so no loss) won't talk to me anymore. There's definitely no reason for me to choose this when it only makes everyone in my life upset - and my upbringing was the same as what most girls experience. So the only logical reason that I'm bisexual is because I was born this way, and I'd be like this regardless of how I was raised or any other outside factors.

i can't wait until my college apps are in and i don't have to worry about it anymore

"Cute clothes" refers to skimpy clothes. And yeah I wore bikinis even when I was little, I wore princess Jasmine's costume for at least a few years in a row (in case you don't know your princesses, here's a reference) Clothing literally has nothing to do with your personality. If I had dressed as a nun every day instead I would still be the person that I am. [bTW I merged your last two posts - double posting is not allowed.]

Basically everything Lea said. When I was little I dressed up in princess costumes and used my mom's make up and I'm 100% sure that's had literally zero effect on who I am as a person. I still love princesses, I wear dresses and cute shoes all the time, and I want to be a US Marine - how you dress doesn't determine your character. You also said they keep their daughters just to dress up and ???? they LOSE money on pageants, and the little girls talk about how much they love to do them. Nobody has a kid just to put clothes on them - they're losing money in doing it, so obviously they're doing it out of love. And wow seriously? "self absorbed sluts"? Wearing cute clothes and competing with other kids doesn't make you self-absorbed. If it did then hell, the entire population would be that way since all kids wear clothes that make them happy and compete, whether it's academically or in sports. (Also lol everyone's self-absorbed stuff like income inequality wouldn't be a problem if we weren't) And I don't even know where to begin with that slut shaming.

This is literally the absolute best kind of movie ever. I don't know how to explain the concept of "it's so bad it's good" to you but take the time to sit down and watch a few of these because they're gold. For example:

?????????? what are you talking about could you like elaborate I literally have no idea what you're referring to

CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT CHILD OF LIGHT

OMG I LOVE PET PEEVEES I HAVE ALL OF THEM

Honestly I haven't tried any of the ones you've listed. I bought a Tritton set when I was like 13 and used them literally like 6 hours a day until they've finally died on me like 4 years later. I don't know the exact model name (I think I paid about $60 for this pair) but these are amazing: They sell them at every GameStop I've been to thus far.

Lmao yeah what Weed said. Just as a warning to anyone who posts anymore on this topic: don't start shit. I completely understand disagreeing, but there's no point in turning this thread into an ideological argument. If you wanna do that we need a separate thread or you've got to PM/IM each other.

I'm not bashing you here, but I think it's hilarious that those people would be mad about it because nothing in the old testament applies anymore and with the new testament there's been a lot of controversy over the fact that it appears these verses may have been mistranslated (in most cases it appears the original text meant to say something against perverted people, but it's been continually translated as homosexual by prejudiced/mistaken translators, and now there's a lot of controversy over the mistranslations) so the bible literally says nothing about being gay lmao. But actually to your point: personally I wouldn't care if they're offended. They'll buy the games anyway, so Nintendo probably won't lose anything. And it's nobody's fault that they want to be closeminded and cruel, so I'd actually be kinda happy to see them offended tbh. Oh no, your poor child is being exposed to equality! (again, you didn't express an opinion so this isn't an attack on you or anything, I just wanted to comment on that particular paragraph)

They've stated that Thor will be male in the movies and female in the comics, so nothing will change in the movies. I'm curious as to why the OP didn't mention that there's also going to be a black Captain America? But anyway they won't change anything in the movies, this is all just for the comics. Personally I'm super excited! It's about time they add some more female and minority heroes to the world, and I think Thor and Captain America are great places to start. I'm a massive Cap fan so that news excites me a little more than the new Thor, but they're both awesome. There are a lot of butthurt people complaining already but I think we should just ignore the people who want to stay in their little male fantasy world and enjoy the comics anyway.

I get really pissed when games don't have a samesex marriage option. It's teaching children that marriage is between a man and a woman - which could screw them up for life (like seriously, speaking from personal experience, that's what I was taught and it made it extremely difficult for me to realize my sexuality and it was an awful thing and I should have been taught from the start that anyone can love anyone) and it's just a very damaging thing. I don't see how it's mocking? I mean I haven't played Tomodachi Life but I've played the Sims and I definitely don't see anything that could be construed as bad about the way they portray samesex couples. A samesex couple does literally nothing to change gameplay, but it means the world to developing kids. If they grow us thinking of gay marriage as normal then it'll be easier for them to blot out the damaging influence of gross anti-gay marriage groups and we'll have a society of (slightly, since people suck) better people who support equality. And it'll do so much good for LGBTQIAP kids. They won't think anything of it as they play the game as a child, but it's been positively reinforced subconciously that they don't have anything to be ashamed of. There are only positive benefits to including samesex couples, because not only does it have the aforementioned beneficial effects on children, but it's great for the older kids who'll play. If I had a copy of Tomodachi Life I'd be annoyed that my only option for marriage was to a man - actually I'd probably stop playing right then and there. TL;DR It's an easy thing to add to games that has tons of positive effects and no negative ones I probably didn't word that the best because I'm typing fast and really getting worked up so I apologize in advance for any grammatical mistakes/unclear wording.

Accepted~ I'll wait for a few more people but if no one else has signed up within a few more days I'll just start the RP.

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It's KNK just watch it, it's good.