Sorual

yeah. i think the only time people complained about melee was when it was new or in the mid 2000s. i think all the steam has been blown off by now tho. maybe thats why we dont really hear it. but i do think people still complained about melee. just not nearly as much. and this is just a theory, but maybe people are really gettting on diddy is cus patches exist now. still, it is hippocritical if people are judging diddy and leaving melee fox alone.

yeah. maybe ur right. it was the only balancing peoblem that REALLY got noticed. (aside from that whole pac-man debocle) and sakurai said that he would only fix glaring issues. so maybe. still. balancing is balancing

yeah. i guess they could make k rool bowser size. im sure he would be fun and yeah. i do looks forward to seeing how the balance patch changes the metagame

donkey kong is already a big character. king k rool is like twice his size in country. how are they gonna make that work? sakurai doesent want to shrink characters (like he stated with ridely) so if king k rool gets accepted he would probably be the biggest target in the game. for that reason i dont think he will get in.

thats something ive actually been thinking as well. its just that i reall wanted it to be competative. but what you said has always been in the back of my head. thats actually the reason i decided to make that post. to see if there was any point that would be brought to mind that would save smash as a competative game. porhaps it ws wishful thinking. maybe character balences is the only way to posibly make it competative. dont get me wrong. i still think it ca be a competative game. just not one without its flaws (regarding competative viability) but i digress. thx for responding

i know this is a sensitive topic but i really wanted to hear what you guys have t say about it. i ask that this conversation be civil. ive seen many topics on other forums where this topic turn into anger rather than an actual debate. with that said, i hope this can be discussed in a civil manner without anger and only the interest to better the other persons understanding of the situation, and persuading them to think otherwise, rather than insulting them for what they think (there is a difference as im sure was obvios) i have heard the other side of this arguement, and i want to agree with it. we all know the concept of overpowered characters. characters that are inherintly stronger than other characters and are in deed able to be beaten, but it takes more skill than it does beating other characters. i can see this. the most recent occurence of this is in diddy kong. now one might say that people should just forget about this kind of thing and just enjoy the game. play it however you would like to. i agree with this. however when it comes to competition, i feel this is invalid. when people are just aiming to have fun, i agree. however, competition is different. it has to have something. equality in opportunity. when someone plays a character that is inherintly stronger than the character it is facing, you no longer have that. yes, its still possible to beat them, however it requires more skill than it would fighting a character that has an equal matchup. as long as 1 fighter has to put more effort into the match in order to win than the other fighter, i dont think that is a very good thing for a game that is played competitavly. many would argue that diddy kong is a prime example. he is very possible to beat, however it requires more skill than if you were fighting a character that is equal in terms of fighting ability. while more sever, its like this situation. imagine someone bringing a rusted sword to a sword fight, while the opponent has a freshly sharpened and forged sword with the ability to repair itself to perfect condition durring battle if it gets damaged in any way. that example is FAR more severe however its the same concept. the one with the rusted sword can win, however it requires far more skill and mastery than it would the fighter with the perfect sword. so long as this concept exists in a fighting game, i cant help but consider it a flaw because i expect something competative to have equality in opportunity and this concept seems to undermine that. even though some competative games have this however, i am not going to say its a bad competative game. i love smash bros either way and will play it whether or not it has this issue. im just saying that i consider it a flaw in an otherwise amazing game. well, thats all i have to say. i really do want to think otherwise so i ask you guys to bring points to the table disproving my statements so that i can see other side and drop what i consider a flaw.

i want pichu to come back. he was one of my favorite characters in melee. the whole thing where he hurts himself when he attacks made him WAAAAAAY underpowered, and to be ohnest, i still liked it it was an acomplishment when you beat someone with pichu and in my opnion, he was a better joke character than wii fit trainer is (but they come close ) but looking into that picture, fawful would definetly be my second choice. he is my favorite mario character ever and i would love to see some reprisentation from the mario and luigi series aside from the chars that appear on other games. like, i really wish there were broggy and starlo assist trophies i really wanted bayonetta but being an extreamly mature character, im 99.99999999% sure nintendo will not have that. but to be ohnest, i think shantae will win the first ballat. ive seen so many people that want her and she is even getting promoted by wayforward and has a freaking known hashtag ive never been into shantae, but i heard its good so maybe ill get into it some other time. but i do hope the shantae fans enjoy the char when it (probably) gets released as dlc. not sure if she will, but it really seems like she will. and if she doesent, i think shovel knight will.

yeah. i see where ur comming from.

i can definetly see where ur comming from. but i rly got over clone characters being a bad thing. i rly liked roy and would love to see him return. but i do see ur point. sry if im doing something bad. i just wanna see roy again. but purhaps i should have voted someone else.

how did nintendo get sakurai to agree to this?? he said he was in serious need for a vacation. im seriously baffled! either way, a moment of silence for sakurai's hard work. ........................ seriously sakurai. your putting in a lot of work i voted for roy to come back. anyone else do so? EDIT: just read KHSoraKeyBlade's post. i understand and maybe i voted wrong but i do want to see roy again. sry. i semi regret it.

HOLY CRAP IM FREAKING EXITED!!!! xD Me and a friend almost gave up on him returning! - Sorual

its still a thing............ so is the 3ds amiibo adapter........................................................................................... and phantasy star online 2 US release...............

i have an entire list of games that i need to get around to playing (most recently i need to play final fantasy I-X and need to finish type 0 and XV demo) so no. but there are those times where i want to not play a video game and there is nothing else to do so in that sense, yes. but hey! if ur bored, try playing a bullet hell shooter. that will probably kill the boredom.