Okay, well I was just thinking lately, okay, so in kingdom hearts 1, sora unlocked his heart and all the other ones, Do you think maybe he unlocked ventus's heart. And Ventus woke up? Then Ventus would be Roxas. I mean the last time Ventus lost his heart, he lost all of this memories. So maybe he was just walking around, got to twilight town, then (terra) Xemnas found him, recongized him, and then gave him a new name. Remeber in 358 2 days, Xemnas says "the new you". All i'm saying is, Roxas is Ven, and Ven woke up when Sora unlocked his heart.

 

Sorry, I guess two got created some how.

i dont think so you see when Sora unlocket his heart he created roxas and he got ven's heart and thats why roxas is a special nobody

i dont think so you see when Sora unlocket his heart he created roxas and he got ven's heart

 

But wouldn't it have been easier if it was Ven. I mean, I know that it might seem impossible. Then how to do you explain Ventus awake at the end of the secret movie in bbs.

i dont think anyone knows it he cant be awake its only aqua ho knows where he is in castle oblivion. Xemnas tried to find him. but he was unable to do it.

Then how to do you explain Ventus awake at the end of the secret movie in bbs.

The scene you see in the BBS secret ending with Terra and Ven is symbolic and never happens...

 

 

And we see Roxas waking up in Twilight Town. If Ven woke up, why would he go to Twilight Town lie down on the ground and stand up again when Xemnas comes out of the Dark Corridor? Why would he change his cloths?

"The new you" means that he no longer is Sora but is now Roxas...

i dont think anyone knows it he cant be awake its only aqua ho knows where he is in castle oblivion. Xemnas tried to find him. but he was unable to do it.

 

Xemnas tried finding the chamber where he was sleeping yes, but that doesn't mean Ven could have gotten up and walked out him self. I don't know. If Ven is Roxas in kingdom hearts 3. You owe me 5 dollars! lol

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I FINALLY GET IT!!!

THATS WHY HE CAN CRY AND HAVE A HEART!!!

LOL, IM SO SLOWWW

Yeah, you have a good point kingdomlanelover

Roxas looks like Ven because of Sora's heart melding with Ven's. Roxas is Sora's nobody so he is Sora not Ven. Same thing with Vanitas, he looks like Sora, but that doesn't mean he is.

Okay, well I was just thinking lately, okay, so in kingdom hearts 1, sora unlocked his heart and all the other ones, Do you think maybe he unlocked ventus's heart. And Ventus woke up? Then Ventus would be Roxas. I mean the last time Ventus lost his heart, he lost all of this memories. So maybe he was just walking around, got to twilight town, then (terra) Xemnas found him, recongized him, and then gave him a new name. Remeber in 358 2 days, Xemnas says "the new you". All i'm saying is, Roxas is Ven, and Ven woke up when Sora unlocked his heart.

 

Sorry, I guess two got created some how.

 

i agree with your train of thought completely. i was just thinking the same thing ^_^. some people think that roxas is totally different than ventus just because the way he acts and i think there totally wrong

:oooooooooooooooo

I FINALLY GET IT!!!

THATS WHY HE CAN CRY AND HAVE A HEART!!!

LOL, IM SO SLOWWW

 

No, actually thats the work of vens heart that was in soras body, then sora stabbed himself with that keyblade of hearts creating roxas, and then vens heart goes to roxas thats why he seems to have a heart and feeling and thats why roxas LOOKS like ven.

 

Note that i put some enphasis on the LOOKS which means, let me put this up straight:

ROXAS IS NOT VEN!!![/b]

i agree, Roxas and Ven arent the same person. Roxas is Sora's nobody, the only reason he looks like ven is cuz sora filled in the broken parts of ven's heart(that's the main connection between the two). And because of that connection Roxas turned out LOOKING like Ven.

Things got really complex when Sora released his heart in Kingdom Hearts 1. Basically, what happened was when he released his heart he also released Kairis and Vens. As Sora had a strong heart, like any person with a strong heart that loses theirs he created a Nobody. That nobody was Roxas, however rather than Vens heart go back to his original body, it ended up in Roxas thus explaining why Roxas looks like Ven and also why he can cry and feel emotions, because he had a heart, it just wasn't his. So no, he's not Ven, he is Soras nobody, but has Vens heart within him.

 

The memory loss was caused by Sora returning back into his original self thanks to the help of Kairi shortly after he became a heartless. Also note that Roxas personality is completely different to Vens, if it were him it would most likely be similar or the same.