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[Spoilers] Theory about the traitor

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Hello! It's my first post here, and I wanted to share a little theory I being thinking about for a while.
 
A lot of people have being theorizing about who's foreteller is the traitor, so I being looking around and although I might be wrong, it's very plausible, I will put links to different videos to support my theory.

 

Well, I will start by saying who I think the traitor is: Forteller Ava.

 

Nowhere says that the traitor must be evil nor have dark intentions, as we can see on X-BC the Master of Masters literally told her to "forget about the notion of unions" in order to save the light. He also told her to look for capable keyblade wielders, no matter their unions and "create and entirely separate organization", and that she's the only one who can do it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyQepyoK37k (look from 1:04 to 1:30)

 

He obviously told her in a subtle way to betray the unions for the greater good, although I think it was just to fulfill his plan.

Given that she filled her role like the master told her, without giving it much thought.

 

Then comes the events that we don't see here, the events of X [Chi]:

 

Gula tells the player that the traitor is "the one unable to forgive this distastefulness, who thaught of fate with pessimism and lost true strenght, the one who will misread the truth and step into secrecy (Ava could've taken what the master said for the truth, and she clearly stepped into secrecy when creating the Dandelions)

 

And for last, what makes me think about even more about it is this:

 

Then gula says "and, with that one swing, the bell that tells the end of the battle will sound, and the battle will finally begin, at the destined time", and after that we see Ava swinging his keyblade at Luxu just as the clock reaches the 12:00 on the clock, making the bell sound, at the destined time.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94M8NNNuEdc&t=1s&index=29&list=PLhcSrKyqhfh5gWWmRv4rISACTyrZbPPsS (look from 3:40 to 7:15)

 

Ava by the masters orders created a separate organization, betrayed the five unions and they're beliefs by doing so, for the greater good yeah, but one thing doesn't change the other. It was the master's plan all along, as everyone can see, and used her and her kindness to make sure everything happens the way it was supposed to. We never see her face or any part of her body so we don't know if she has "the sygil" or not, she could have it just like everyone else. Luxu is the only one who makes clear to have it in his name, but that doesn't exactly means his the traitor, since the book says it's one of the foretellers and Luxu isn't one of them.

 

Well that's my theory, what do you guys think? anything that you would add or change? I'd like to know your opinions.

Please let me know if something is mispelled or has bad writing, i actually speak spanish so there could be anything wrong.

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I like it, but the only thing is Gula also said that the traitor is "the one that bears the sigil." I don't think Ava is the one that bears even sigil so that is where I think you fall short. It's well thought, but just one detail short.

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I like it, but the only thing is Gula also said that the traitor is "the one that bears the sigil." I don't think Ava is the one that bears even sigil so that is where I think you fall short. It's well thought, but just one detail short.

 

Exactly, that's why I said "We never see her face or any part of her body so we don't know if she has "the sygil" or not, she could have it just like everyone else". So that will be the one thing that will clarify everything once we know.

Yes, Ava swung her Keyblade, but Luxu did as well and maybe someone else may have too at the same time and it just seems like it could be Ava or Luxu. 

 

Edit: I also just noticed that Xemnas says in the fight with Sora in KH3D that Sora's flesh has the mark of the sigil and in so he will be known as a recusant. 

 

It could very well mean that the events could occur further into the future as well. 

"As your flesh bears the sigil, so your name shall be known as that...of a recusant." —Xemnas to Sora, at the beginning of their battle.

Edited by Cricket

Here is the answer:There is no traitor

 

The Master of Masters literally tricked them into believing there is a traitor by giving them missions that intentionally clashes with one another

 

So really the MoM is the true traitor but none of the foretellers bothered to think so (except Aced who said screw the master's teachings) cuz they obeyed him so fanatically as if he's God or something.............oh

 

As for the sigil.....it refers to the X,and the only "foreteller" who supposedly had it is Luxu on his coat's zipper

 

And veeeeeeeeeeeeery later on Sora would have that on his shirt

 

Luxu was only told to watch from afar and carry the box and the No Name keyblade

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