It's a real-life Tatooine. A spectacle made popular by the "Star Wars" saga — a planet with two suns — has now been confirmed in space for the first time, astronomers revealed.

Scientists using NASA's Kepler space telescope captured details of a giant planet in orbit around the pair of binary stars that make up the Kepler-16 system, which is about 200 light-years away.

"This discovery is stunning," said study co-author Alan Boss at the Carnegie Institute in Washington. "Once again, what used to be science fiction has turned into reality." [See an image and video of Tatooine planet Kepler 16b]

 

When Tatooine was depicted on film, many scientists doubted that such planets could really exist. Now there's proof.

"It's possible that there's a real Tatooine out there," said John Knoll, visual effects supervisor at the special-effects firm Industrial Light and Magic, which was behind the "Star Wars" films. "Kepler 16b is unambiguous and dramatic proof that planets really do form around binaries."

The new discovery is expanding the bounds of what scientists, as well as filmakers, can conceive, he said.

"Again and again we see that the science is stranger and cooler than fiction," Knoll said during a NASA press conference today. "The very existence of these discoveries gives us cause to dream bigger, to question our assumptions."

The planet, dubbed Kepler-16(AB)-b, passes in front of both stars in view of the satellite, regularly dimming their light. Each star also eclipses its companion as they orbit each other. Altogether, these motions allow scientists to precisely calculate the masses, radii and trajectories of all three bodies.

The newfound planet keeps a distance from its stars nearly three-quarters that of the distance between the Earth and the sun. It is somewhat like Saturn in size, although nearly 50 percent denser, suggesting it is richer in heavy elements. [10 Real Alien Worlds That Could Be In 'Star Wars']

"Kepler-16(AB)-b is not habitable as we know it," said study lead author Laurance Doyle , an astrophysicist at the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) Institute in Mountain View, Calif.

This alien world travels on a nearly circular 229-day orbit around its two parent stars, Kepler-16A and Kepler-16B, which are about 69 and 20 percent as massive as the sun, respectively. The stars keep close to each other — only a fifth of the distance between Earth and the sun on average, which is closer than Mercury gets to the sun — completing an orbit around each other every 41 days, researchers added. [Infographic: New Planet is Like "Star Wars'" Tatooine]

Worlds that orbit around two stars, known as circumbinary planets, had been hinted at before. Stars in pairs both orbit around a point in space called barycenter, and researchers at times saw these orbits were slightly off, suggesting the presence of a planet tugging at both stars. However, Kepler-16(AB)-b is the first planet that scientists have detected directly passing in front of, or transiting, its stars, temporarily dimming their light.

Since the movements of this world and its two stars are all virtually confined to the same plane, the researchers suggest they all formed from the same disk of dust and gas. Planets that were captured from other star systems might be expected to orbit at a range of angles.

"Now that we know how to detect circumbinary planets, I think we are going to find a lot more rapidly," Doyle told SPACE.com.

The scientists detailed their findings in the Sept. 16 issue of the journal Science.

source: http://news.yahoo.co...-181404397.html

 

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so any thoughts or comments?

I predict we will have the tech to build a planet-destroying laser on that moon by 2025.

If it's okay with plus50, I think we should bring everybody who's not: a fanboy/fangirl, stupid, or prefers call of duty to KH or legend of zelda, to dagobah, and then use the laser to destroy earth.

I predict we will have the tech to build a planet-destroying laser on that moon by 2025.

If it's okay with plus50, I think we should bring everybody who's not: a fanboy/fangirl, stupid, or prefers call of duty to KH or legend of zelda, to dagobah, and then use the laser to destroy earth.

 

Considering that the Jedi Order date back 20,000 years, and we are just starting to militarize lasers now, we're not going to get to planet destroying lasers any time soon.

 

Plus even if we do have the ability to get such a laser we still have to get passed the whole space travel thing. A snail would be able to circle the entire planet before a space shuttle would leave the solar system.

I predict we will have the tech to build a planet-destroying laser on that moon by 2025.

If it's okay with plus50, I think we should bring everybody who's not: a fanboy/fangirl, stupid, or prefers call of duty to KH or legend of zelda, to dagobah, and then use the laser to destroy earth.

 

I won't bring any COD fags. And fanboys are alright. as long as they don't go overboard. or THE AIR LOCK WITH THEM. AND NO FANGIRLS ALLOWED. THEIR firetruckEN ANNOYING. But yeah.

 

Anyone except COD fags, SOME fanboys, and fangirls are not allowed. TO THE AIRLOCK WITH THEM.

As long as planets are being claimed, I'll take Kamino.

 

Considering that the Jedi Order date back 20,000 years, and we are just starting to militarize lasers now, we're not going to get to planet destroying lasers any time soon.

 

Plus even if we do have the ability to get such a laser we still have to get passed the whole space travel thing. A snail would be able to circle the entire planet before a space shuttle would leave the solar system.

 

Well, there are plans to live on a total of 2 planets by 2150, and 3 planets as soon as the ice on one of Saturn's moons melts. The government is currently working on a laser gun, and scientists have already built a lightsaber(and it's much longer than the ones in star wars.), considering that it's possible that the only reason the deathstar took that long to be built was because the sith didn't have enough metal to build their own moon from scratch, it's very possible that we could have moonlasers by 2020. The human race has existed for over 75,000 years, so we should have invented the deathstar 55,000 years ago.

You also need to account for the possibility of an unexpected breakthrough in science that gives us the ability to make light travel super-fast, allowing us to shoot lasers all the way across the universe in only a few days.

 

In case you haven't noticed, this is the future. Welcome.

I won't bring any COD fags. And fanboys are alright. as long as they don't go overboard. or THE AIR LOCK WITH THEM. AND NO FANGIRLS ALLOWED. THEIR firetruckEN ANNOYING. But yeah.

 

Anyone except COD fags, SOME fanboys, and fangirls are not allowed. TO THE AIRLOCK WITH THEM.

 

 

We are on firetrucking tatooine dude! Feed them to the Saarlac!

Well, there are plans to live on a total of 2 planets by 2150,

Haha lol do you know how unlikely that is? My Grandparents said that in the 50s we were supposed to be living on the moon by 2010. We haven't even started building a moon base yet.

 

 

The government is currently working on a laser gun,

They actually built one. It can only destroy missiles. Much less an entire planet.

 

 

and scientists have already built a lightsaber(and it's much longer than the ones in star wars.), considering that it's possible that the only reason the deathstar took that long to be built was because the sith didn't have enough metal to build their own moon from scratch,

It's not a legitimate lightsaber. It can't cut through EVERY material known to man which is what a real lightsaber can do. Plus they can't deflect lasers and aren't being mass produced.

 

And actually the first deathstar was build in 25 years and the second was to be finished in 4 years (whilst being nearly 3 times larger than the first death star.) And the Sith had plenty of materials. The only reason why it wasn't built during the Republic era was because it was originally designed by the Trade Federation but Sidius eventually received the plans from Duko.

 

it's very possible that we could have moonlasers by 2020. The human race has existed for over 75,000 years, so we should have invented the deathstar 55,000 years ago.

Yes we've been around for 75000 years, but we didn't have lasers 75,000 years ago, or clothing for that matter. We still have 20 thousand years until we get to star-wars technology.

 

 

You also need to account for the possibility of an unexpected breakthrough in science that gives us the ability to make light travel super-fast, allowing us to shoot lasers all the way across the universe in only a few days. In case you haven't noticed, this is the future. Welcome.

There is so much scientifically wrong with this paragraph.

 

1. Theoretically, light speed is IMPOSSIBLE. An object gains more mass as it approaches the speed of light. A piece of paper going the speed of light would weigh as much as the earth itself. This results in more and more energy being required to accelerate the object. The reason why light can travel this fast is because light has no mass. Of course it's only a theory, but countless mathematical equations have confirmed it, and experiments with electrons in the Hadron Collidor confirmed that the electrons were gaining more mass as they approached the speed of light. Interstellar travel is only practical through the use of wormholes, which are unpredictable as they can take you from earth to another galaxy and even close in on themselves before you can make it back.

 

2. Secondly you can't shoot a laser across the universe in a few days. Lasers are just concentrated beams of light and thus only go at light speed. To reach the nearest star a laser would have to travel for approximately 20 years.

 

3. We are not in the future, it's September 22nd 2011. The last second was the past, this second is a the present and the next second is the future. In 1 second the future will become the present and the present will become the past.

 

You are always living in the present no matter what.

 

Haha lol do you know how unlikely that is? My Grandparents said that in the 50s we were supposed to be living on the moon by 2010. We haven't even started building a moon base yet.

 

Mars is the only planet in our solar system we could currently live on, correct? but it's a bit cold and there's no oxygen, if we fix those problems, we can live on mars. Earth is currently getting warmer and warmer because of pollution, so if we sent machines to mars that polluted the air, it would get warmer in about 30 years, then we can send algae to filter the CO2 and put oxygen on mars, then we can put in some trees about 10 years after we put in the algae, and we'll have a warm, oxygen filled, planet to live on. Eventually we could send those machines to one of Saturn's moons that has ice on it, melt the ice, and have a planet with water, then we could put plants there, and we'll have 3 planets to live on.

 

 

They actually built one. It can only destroy missiles. Much less an entire planet.

 

I was talking about a different one.

 

 

It's not a legitimate lightsaber. It can't cut through EVERY material known to man which is what a real lightsaber can do. Plus they can't deflect lasers and aren't being mass produced.

 

The legit one will begin production when they finish the plasma rifle. We just need to find a way to contain heated plasma.

They don't mass produce lightsabers in star-wars either. Only the jedi get them.

 

 

Yes we've been around for 75000 years, but we didn't have lasers 75,000 years ago, or clothing for that matter. We still have 20 thousand years until we get to star-wars technology.

 

How long had the jedi been around when they got lasers? It seems like the jedi could have built the death-star whenever hey wanted, considering there were no advances in tech after they got lasers.

 

 

 

 

There is so much scientifically wrong with this paragraph.

 

1. Theoretically, light speed is IMPOSSIBLE. An object gains more mass as it approaches the speed of light. A piece of paper going the speed of light would weigh as much as the earth itself. This results in more and more energy being required to accelerate the object. The reason why light can travel this fast is because light has no mass. Of course it's only a theory, but countless mathematical equations have confirmed it, and experiments with electrons in the Hadron Collidor confirmed that the electrons were gaining more mass as they approached the speed of light. Interstellar travel is only practical through the use of wormholes, which are unpredictable as they can take you from earth to another galaxy and even close in on themselves before you can make it back.

But it's possible to make light go faster than light goes. http://scienceblog.com/light.html

 

2. Secondly you can't shoot a laser across the universe in a few days. Lasers are just concentrated beams of light and thus only go at light speed. To reach the nearest star a laser would have to travel for approximately 20 years.

 

If we make light go faster than light, light could go across the universe in 2 days.

 

3. We are not in the future, it's September 22nd 2011. The last second was the past, this second is a the present and the next second is the future. In 1 second the future will become the present and the present will become the past.

 

We are in the future of yesterday, and tommorow we will be in the future of today. You are always in the future, present, and past. When I said we were living in the future, I meant metaphorically.

 

You are always living in the present no matter what.

 

Mars is the only planet in our solar system we could currently live on, correct? but it's a bit cold and there's no oxygen, if we fix those problems, we can live on mars. Earth is currently getting warmer and warmer because of pollution, so if we sent machines to mars that polluted the air, it would get warmer in about 30 years, then we can send algae to filter the CO2 and put oxygen on mars, then we can put in some trees about 10 years after we put in the algae, and we'll have a warm, oxygen filled, planet to live on. Eventually we could send those machines to one of Saturn's moons that has ice on it, melt the ice, and have a planet with water, then we could put plants there, and we'll have 3 planets to live on.

 

 

Oh boy....

 

1. Global warming is a myth developed by attention hungry people trying to make a career out of lying to gullible people.

 

2. Sending machines that pollute earth would make mars polluted too. DERP! Pollution and the earths temperature are not related.

 

3. You are describing a process called Teraforming, which takes trillions of dollars and hundreds of years to do. It isn't as simple as sending down a few things and waiting a little bit.Think of terraforming like baking a cake. Not only do you need to add the ingredients to the recipe but you need to make sure they stay in the recipe, then you need to put all the ingredients together. Finally you need to bake the cake, then let it cool. It's not easy. Your talking about creating an entire ecosystem on a new world. Naturally doing this will take MILLIONS of years, with human acceleration it will take hundreds.

 

4. The moons of saturn that have water on them are frozen to the point where touching them would kill you instantly. The only way they would melt is if the sun heated up to the point all life on earth and mars would be destroyed.

 

I was talking about a different one

There are only two functional ones. The first is the one that shoots down missiles, the second is the one that shoots down artillery shells. There is a third that is meant to be used against ground targets but won't be completed until around 2015.

 

The legit one will begin production when they finish the plasma rifle. We just need to find a way to contain heated plasma.

They don't mass produce lightsabers in star-wars either. Only the jedi get them.

A plasma rifle would still be too expensive and unpredictable to be used by the military. And Lightsabers are mass produced. There are millions of Jedi. Most of which lived in the Jedi temple which is about half the size of Manhatten. Every Jedi from younglings to masters recieved lightsabers.

 

 

 

How long had the jedi been around when they got lasers? It seems like the jedi could have built the death-star whenever hey wanted, considering there were no advances in tech after they got lasers.

 

Are you freaking kidding me? No technological advances? How about droids, or shields, or ion cannons, or THE FREAKING DEATH STAR? Building an entire moon out of metal retrieved from the center of the earth sounds pretty advanced don't you think?

 

But it's possible to make light go faster than light goes

Like I said, light has no mass and thus that is possible.

 

 

 

 

If we make light go faster than light, light could go across the universe in 2 days.

 

The Universe is constantly expanding. It is impossible for light to get across the entire universe as the universe is expanding faster than it.

 

Oh boy....

 

1. Global warming is a myth developed by attention hungry people trying to make a career out of lying to gullible people.

 

Well the science channel said that would work, and the science channel doesn't lie.

 

2. Sending machines that pollute earth would make mars polluted too. DERP! Pollution and the earths temperature are not related.

 

I never said it would pollute mars. Maybe we could make an artificial sun or something? It would only need to heat up a small part of mars, so we could make it 1/4 the size of the moon and make it orbit around mars.

 

3. You are describing a process called Teraforming, which takes trillions of dollars and hundreds of years to do. It isn't as simple as sending down a few things and waiting a little bit.Think of terraforming like baking a cake. Not only do you need to add the ingredients to the recipe but you need to make sure they stay in the recipe, then you need to put all the ingredients together. Finally you need to bake the cake, then let it cool. It's not easy. Your talking about creating an entire ecosystem on a new world. Naturally doing this will take MILLIONS of years, with human acceleration it will take hundreds.

 

So we add the ingredients(plants and stuff), then make sure they don't die off(that shouldn't be too hard), then bring in some humans and various earth animals, and develop a colony on mars. Tree seeds and a machine like spirit(but less expensive, because all it will do is drive around and throw seeds everywhere) shouldn't cost too much money.

 

4. The moons of saturn that have water on them are frozen to the point where touching them would kill you instantly. The only way they would melt is if the sun heated up to the point all life on earth and mars would be destroyed.

 

Artificial sun. nuff' said. I really don't know how an artificial sun would work, but we could probably make one.

 

There are only two functional ones. The first is the one that shoots down missiles, the second is the one that shoots down artillery shells. There is a third that is meant to be used against ground targets but won't be completed until around 2015.

 

I was talking about this one: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/04/plasma_pulse_la/

 

A plasma rifle would still be too expensive and unpredictable to be used by the military. And Lightsabers are mass produced. There are millions of Jedi. Most of which lived in the Jedi temple which is about half the size of Manhatten. Every Jedi from younglings to masters recieved lightsabers.

 

I didn't say plasma rifles are like lightsabers. I said, if we could contain heated plasma in a sword-shaped object with a cooling system in the handle or something, e would have a lightsaber.

 

 

Are you freaking kidding me? No technological advances? How about droids, or shields, or ion cannons, or THE FREAKING DEATH STAR? Building an entire moon out of metal retrieved from the center of the earth sounds pretty advanced don't you think?

 

I've never seen a droid other than general grevious do anything other than get killed, they always had shields, when they built the death star, the already had lasers and moons, they didn't really make anything new. and you still didn't answer my question.

 

Like I said, light has no mass and thus that is possible.

 

 

 

 

 

The Universe is constantly expanding. It is impossible for light to get across the entire universe as the universe is expanding faster than it.

What part of "making light go faster" don't you get? If we can increase the speed of light, we can make light go that far, and the planets we would want to destroy wouldn't be farther than the universe has already expanded anyway.

 

*destorys tatoonie with the death star* MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHA AAAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!! AHHAHAHA *cough cough choke cough* AH..AHAHAH...HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA......

 

Ahh..

 

Well the science channel said that would work, and the science channel doesn't lie.

 

 

The science channel has been proven to be as biased and inaccurate as fox news. Global warming is bullshit. Earth is in a natural cooling and heating cycle. We are getting close to the end of a heating cycle. Fun fact, Earth is actually expected to begin cooling again sometime this decade. So put away that global warming bullshit and bring back the old global cooling bullshit from the 50s.

 

 

 

I never said it would pollute mars. Maybe we could make an artificial sun or something? It would only need to heat up a small part of mars, so we could make it 1/4 the size of the moon and make it orbit around mars.

An artificial sun is actually 100% impossible and 100% deadly. Creating enough heat to warm up mars would also heat up the earth (then global warming would actually happen) to the point where it is dangerous for life on earth. Mars is only a few months of travel away from earth. If you heat mars up 70 degrees, your going to do the same to earth.

 

And then you get to the fact that the sun burns up around 1 million times the amount of energy people have produced since the beginning of time in about a 5th of a second.

 

 

 

So we add the ingredients(plants and stuff), then make sure they don't die off(that shouldn't be too hard), then bring in some humans and various earth animals, and develop a colony on mars. Tree seeds and a machine like spirit(but less expensive, because all it will do is drive around and throw seeds everywhere) shouldn't cost too much money.

Yeah, because making sure plants and animals from another planet don't die on a planet that has absolutely no ability to support life is definitely a walk in the park. It's not like there are poisonous gasses and erm no soil .

 

Not costing too much money? Just getting two rovers on mars costed roughly 12 billion dollars. And the rovers don't need anything to thrive and are fairly light.

 

Now we are talking about bringing human beings to a planet. You got to carry the people, the supplies to keep them alive, and the supplies to build a home. Thats going to cost A LOT more than the rover missions.

 

And don't expect to be able to carry everything in one trip. HELL NO! Multiple trips to mars are going to be needed in order to keep the colonist alive for the first three or four decades. This is a multi- trillion dollar project. And in case you didn't notice the economy around the world is total shit. No one on earth, not even all the rich people put together have enough cash to pull something like this off.

 

I was talking about this one: http://www.wired.com...lasma_pulse_la/

You do know that article is from 2007 right? Absolutely no progress has been made on a handheld lethal laser. In fact I do recall the project was been canceled due to the high cost of research and that there is more of a concern with shooting down missiles with lasers than shooting people. Bullets still work fine buddy.

 

 

 

I didn't say plasma rifles are like lightsabers. I said, if we could contain heated plasma in a sword-shaped object with a cooling system in the handle or something, e would have a lightsaber.

 

I can't even tell what you are talking about here. You said we already have a lightsaber, now your talking about how we could make one.

 

 

I've never seen a droid other than general grevious do anything other than get killed, they always had shields, when they built the death star, the already had lasers and moons, they didn't really make anything new. and you still didn't answer my question.

R2-D2 gave emergency repairs to ships for nearly 40 years, C3P0 was the most advanced protocol droid in the galaxy, IG-88A managed to hack himself into the second Death star. Then you got Dark Troopers performing assassinations on Jedi.

 

Shields were actually a recent development which only saw a lot of action around the Mandelorian war.

 

The Death Star was the largest space- station ever constructed and the first to be able to wield a laser that can destroy an entire planet in a single shot.

 

Also I thought your question was rhetorical. Cannon Star Wars history dates back to around 3,000,000 years BBY (before the battle of Yavin). And the oldest race in the galaxy achieve space flight around 100,000 years BBY. The death star was completed at 0 BBY. So my original estimate is horribly wrong. We've only had space flight for about 70 years. We got a LONG WAY to go before we get a Death Star.

 

 

 

What part of "making light go faster" don't you get? If we can increase the speed of light, we can make light go that far, and the planets we would want to destroy wouldn't be farther than the universe has already expanded anyway.

 

You said we could make a beam of light go across the entire universe in just 2 days. Even if light goes faster than it already can it will still never reach the end of the universe. Not only are you wrong, but you can't stick to your story. First you say we already made a lightsaber, now you say we are trying to build one. First you say we can make a laser go all the way to the edge of the universe in 2 days, now you are bringing up something completely irrelevant.

An artificial sun is actually 100% impossible and 100% deadly. Creating enough heat to warm up mars would also heat up the earth (then global warming would actually happen) to the point where it is dangerous for life on earth. Mars is only a few months of travel away from earth. If you heat mars up 70 degrees, your going to do the same to earth.

 

A sun 1/4 the size of earths moon would not heat up earth enough to destroy the earth, especially if it's as far away as Saturn.

 

And then you get to the fact that the sun burns up around 1 million times the amount of energy people have produced since the beginning of time in about a 5th of a second.

 

That's a good point, but what if it was solar powered?

 

Yeah, because making sure plants and animals from another planet don't die on a planet that has absolutely no ability to support life is definitely a walk in the park. It's not like there are poisonous gasses and erm no soil .

 

Okay, so we send potted plants to mars.

 

Not costing too much money? Just getting two rovers on mars costed roughly 12 billion dollars. And the rovers don't need anything to thrive and are fairly light.

 

If we spent that much money just to look at red rocks, spending that much to colonize an extra planet shouldn't be that big a deal.

 

Now we are talking about bringing human beings to a planet. You got to carry the people, the supplies to keep them alive, and the supplies to build a home. Thats going to cost A LOT more than the rover missions.

 

Start by sending cows and pigs and chickens for food milk and eggs. There's already rocks and wood to build shelters out of until they can send magic houses filled with futuristic technology

 

And don't expect to be able to carry everything in one trip. HELL NO! Multiple trips to mars are going to be needed in order to keep the colonist alive for the first three or four decades. This is a multi- trillion dollar project. And in case you didn't notice the economy around the world is total shit. No one on earth, not even all the rich people put together have enough cash to pull something like this off.

 

Just eliminate the concept of money and replace it with trading, the egyptians didn't have money, and they built pyraminds.

 

You do know that article is from 2007 right? Absolutely no progress has been made on a handheld lethal laser. In fact I do recall the project was been canceled due to the high cost of research and that there is more of a concern with shooting down missiles with lasers than shooting people. Bullets still work fine buddy.

 

Okay. Now, what does star wars have to do with this anyway? It's completely fictional. Goerge Lucas wasn't excactly a top scientist or anything.

 

I can't even tell what you are talking about here. You said we already have a lightsaber, now your talking about how we could make one.

 

I said we already had a lightsaber, and you said that wasn't a lightsaber, so I decided to talk about how we could make one that's more like a real lightsaber.

 

 

R2-D2 gave emergency repairs to ships for nearly 40 years, C3P0 was the most advanced protocol droid in the galaxy, IG-88A managed to hack himself into the second Death star. Then you got Dark Troopers performing assassinations on Jedi.

 

We should have self-repairing cell-phones by 2016, IG-88A is the one that looked like a walking stack of toilet paper in lego star-wars, right? Why do we want walking toilet paper hacking our death star?

I thought dark-troopers were people...

 

Shields were actually a recent development which only saw a lot of action around the Mandelorian war.

 

Are we really having this conversation?

 

The Death Star was the largest space- station ever constructed and the first to be able to wield a laser that can destroy an entire planet in a single shot.

 

But I think they had that tech the entire time, they just didn't feel like building a death star.

 

Also I thought your question was rhetorical. Cannon Star Wars history dates back to around 3,000,000 years BBY (before the battle of Yavin). And the oldest race in the galaxy achieve space flight around 100,000 years BBY. The death star was completed at 0 BBY. So my original estimate is horribly wrong. We've only had space flight for about 70 years. We got a LONG WAY to go before we get a Death Star.

 

 

As long as we're merging star wars with reality, that deathstar must have used a lot of power. Like, the power of an artificial sun 1/4 the size of the moon.

 

 

 

You said we could make a beam of light go across the entire universe in just 2 days. Even if light goes faster than it already can it will still never reach the end of the universe.

What about those magic electrons that can communicate with each other instantly? That kind of stuff could allow light to teleport across the universe.

 

A sun 1/4 the size of earths moon would not heat up earth enough to destroy the earth, especially if it's as far away as Saturn.

 

 

In which case placing it at saturn would be entirely useless to heat up mars.

 

That's a good point, but what if it was solar powered?

 

Solar powered objects are extremely expensive and inefficient. You'd need a solar panel the size of the earth itself just to heat mars up a few degrees.

 

Okay, so we send potted plants to mars.

 

 

What if a pot breaks? Your not getting a replacement for about 9 months. And you can't put protective wrapping around the plants during launch or else the plant would become damaged.

 

If we spent that much money just to look at red rocks, spending that much to colonize an extra planet shouldn't be that big a deal.

 

I don't think you get it. You aren't spending that much. More like 1000 times that much.

 

 

Start by sending cows and pigs and chickens for food milk and eggs. There's already rocks and wood to build shelters out of until they can send magic houses filled with futuristic technology

 

What are the cows, pigs, and chickens going to eat? They need food too. Thats more stuff your going to have to bring on the trip. The rocks that you can cut on mars are too small to be used to build and the ones that you can't cut are the right size. And lol WTF? There's no wood on Mars. And there's no such thing as a "magic house".

 

 

Just eliminate the concept of money and replace it with trading, the egyptians didn't have money, and they built pyraminds.

 

Right! Remove the thing that keeps the world going! Trading is so inefficient, that's why we got rid of it thousands of years ago. Oh and the Egyptians had their own cash. They made coins in a similar way to the Greeks.

 

 

Okay. Now, what does star wars have to do with this anyway? It's completely fictional. Goerge Lucas wasn't excactly a top scientist or anything.

 

 

Your the one that brought it up dude.

 

I said we already had a lightsaber, and you said that wasn't a lightsaber, so I decided to talk about how we could make one that's more like a real lightsaber.

 

You need to stay consistent, are we talking about whether or not it is a real lightsaber or how to make one? Pick one and stick with it.

 

We should have self-repairing cell-phones by 2016, IG-88A is the one that looked like a walking stack of toilet paper in lego star-wars, right? Why do we want walking toilet paper hacking our death star?

I thought dark-troopers were people...

 

Not only do you not know what you are talking about but you don't know what others are talking about.

 

1. How is the self repairing cell-phone thing relevant?

2. The fact that you reference Lego Star-Wars shows how little you know about the subject. IG-88A is an assassin droid who attempted to launch a droid rebellion.

3. Dark Troopers are Cyborgs, some variants are half human/ robot but most are entirely robots.

 

 

 

Are we really having this conversation?

 

 

 

Yes we are.

 

 

But I think they had that tech the entire time, they just didn't feel like building a death star.

 

 

There were wars even bloodier than the Galactic Civil War in star-wars history. Do you honestly think that people would not build a super death laser that would win the war just because they didn't feel like it?

 

 

As long as we're merging star wars with reality, that deathstar must have used a lot of power. Like, the power of an artificial sun 1/4 the size of the moon.

 

That was 100% irrelevant. Don't say stuff that is irrelevant just because you cant counter what I am saying.

 

 

 

What about those magic electrons that can communicate with each other instantly? That kind of stuff could allow light to teleport across the universe.

 

 

For the last freaking time! Light has NO mass. You can't contain light, it's going to spread as far as it can before it dissipates. You can't use electrons to transport light because light has no electrons.

Solar powered objects are extremely expensive and inefficient. You'd need a solar panel the size of the earth itself just to heat mars up a few degrees.

 

Put the artificial sun could power itself. Solar power comes from the sun, so the artificial sun could power solar panels.

 

 

What if a pot breaks? Your not getting a replacement for about 9 months. And you can't put protective wrapping around the plants during launch or else the plant would become damaged.

 

Fancy teleporters. nuff' said.

 

I don't think you get it. You aren't spending that much. More like 1000 times that much.

 

Well, why don't we create fancy teleporters and go mine some supernovas, then sell the supernova stuff to germany or something?

 

What are the cows, pigs, and chickens going to eat? They need food too. Thats more stuff your going to have to bring on the trip. The rocks that you can cut on mars are too small to be used to build and the ones that you can't cut are the right size. And lol WTF? There's no wood on Mars. And there's no such thing as a "magic house".

 

We're sending trees, remember? And the chickens and cows and pigs ca eat various potted plants.

 

Right! Remove the thing that keeps the world going! Trading is so inefficient, that's why we got rid of it thousands of years ago. Oh and the Egyptians had their own cash. They made coins in a similar way to the Greeks.

 

But the egyptian money was made of precious metals or something, so they were trading precious metals. Our money is just made of paper.

 

Your the one that brought it up dude.

 

Was not! It was the first post of this thread brought it up.

 

You need to stay consistent, are we talking about whether or not it is a real lightsaber or how to make one? Pick one and stick with it.

 

We were talking about whether or not that was a real one, but I knew I would lose that argument, so now we're talking about how to make one.

 

We should have self-repairing cell-phones by 2016, IG-88A is the one that looked like a walking stack of toilet paper in lego star-wars, right? Why do we want walking toilet paper hacking our death star?

I thought dark-troopers were people...

 

Not only do you not know what you are talking about but you don't know what others are talking about.

 

1. How is the self repairing cell-phone thing relevant?

2. The fact that you reference Lego Star-Wars shows how little you know about the subject. IG-88A is an assassin droid who attempted to launch a droid rebellion.

 

But you're not denying that he looks like walking toilet paper.

 

There were wars even bloodier than the Galactic Civil War in star-wars history. Do you honestly think that people would not build a super death laser that would win the war just because they didn't feel like it?

 

Of course I don't think that. I think they waited because if they had just killed everybody at the beginning, The movies wouldn't have made as much money.

 

That was 100% irrelevant. Don't say stuff that is irrelevant just because you cant counter what I am saying.

 

It was irrelevant to the question, not the discussion.If a death star that uses as much power as an artificial sun is possible, so is an artificial sun.

Solar powered objects are extremely expensive and inefficient. You'd need a solar panel the size of the earth itself just to heat mars up a few degrees.

 

Put the artificial sun could power itself. Solar power comes from the sun, so the artificial sun could power solar panels.

 

 

What if a pot breaks? Your not getting a replacement for about 9 months. And you can't put protective wrapping around the plants during launch or else the plant would become damaged.

 

Fancy teleporters. nuff' said.

 

I don't think you get it. You aren't spending that much. More like 1000 times that much.

 

Well, why don't we create fancy teleporters and go mine some supernovas, then sell the supernova stuff to germany or something?

 

What are the cows, pigs, and chickens going to eat? They need food too. Thats more stuff your going to have to bring on the trip. The rocks that you can cut on mars are too small to be used to build and the ones that you can't cut are the right size. And lol WTF? There's no wood on Mars. And there's no such thing as a "magic house".

 

We're sending trees, remember? And the chickens and cows and pigs ca eat various potted plants.

 

Right! Remove the thing that keeps the world going! Trading is so inefficient, that's why we got rid of it thousands of years ago. Oh and the Egyptians had their own cash. They made coins in a similar way to the Greeks.

 

But the egyptian money was made of precious metals or something, so they were trading precious metals. Our money is just made of paper.

 

Your the one that brought it up dude.

 

Was not! It was the first post of this thread brought it up.

 

You need to stay consistent, are we talking about whether or not it is a real lightsaber or how to make one? Pick one and stick with it.

 

We were talking about whether or not that was a real one, but I knew I would lose that argument, so now we're talking about how to make one.

 

We should have self-repairing cell-phones by 2016, IG-88A is the one that looked like a walking stack of toilet paper in lego star-wars, right? Why do we want walking toilet paper hacking our death star?

I thought dark-troopers were people...

 

Not only do you not know what you are talking about but you don't know what others are talking about.

 

1. How is the self repairing cell-phone thing relevant?

 

You said R2-D2 repaired ships, he would be obsolete if things could repair themselves.

 

2. The fact that you reference Lego Star-Wars shows how little you know about the subject. IG-88A is an assassin droid who attempted to launch a droid rebellion.

 

But you're not denying that he looks like walking toilet paper.

 

There were wars even bloodier than the Galactic Civil War in star-wars history. Do you honestly think that people would not build a super death laser that would win the war just because they didn't feel like it?

 

Of course I don't think that. I think they waited because if they had just killed everybody at the beginning, The movies wouldn't have made as much money.

 

That was 100% irrelevant. Don't say stuff that is irrelevant just because you cant counter what I am saying.

 

It was irrelevant to the question, not the discussion.If a death star that uses as much power as an artificial sun is possible, so is an artificial sun.

 

 

 

Fancy teleporters. nuff' said.

 

Teleportation is impractical as the energy required would be the equivalent of every nuclear bomb on earth going of at once.

 

 

 

Well, why don't we create fancy teleporters and go mine some supernovas, then sell the supernova stuff to germany or something?

 

Do you know anything about science? You can't mine a supernova. Supernovas are the massive explosion of a star. You'd burn up so quickly you wouldn't even know what happened. Plus the nearest supernova's are thousands of lightyears away. And of course it's a great idea to sell rare materials to germany! It's not like they are going to try to take over the world with it, again...and again....

 

 

 

What are the cows, pigs, and chickens going to eat? They need food too. Thats more stuff your going to have to bring on the trip. The rocks that you can cut on mars are too small to be used to build and the ones that you can't cut are the right size. And lol WTF? There's no wood on Mars. And there's no such thing as a "magic house".

 

 

We're sending trees, remember? And the chickens and cows and pigs ca eat various potted plants.

I already explained why everything in this quote is impractical to do during this century. If you want to ignore 90% of what I said feel free, but don't expect me to repeat myself.

 

 

 

But the egyptian money was made of precious metals or something, so they were trading precious metals. Our money is just made of paper.

 

You don't know anything about money do you?

 

1. Our money is not paper, it's actually made up of the fibers of a exotic plant. Paper comes from the pulp of trees.

2. WE HAVE COINS WITH METALS TOO!

 

 

 

Was not! It was the first post of this thread brought it up.

The OP didn't say anything. You said Star- Wars didn't have any technological advancements after lightsabers were made. I proved you wrong, now you are trying to pretend you didn't do anything.

 

 

 

We were talking about whether or not that was a real one, but I knew I would lose that argument, so now we're talking about how to make one.

You can't do that in a conversation! You have to stick to the topic! If I was to talk to you about antelopes but then suddenly switched to cotton candy you would think I was a lunatic! Social skills 101 buddy.

 

 

But you're not denying that he looks like walking toilet paper.

Irrelevant information number 32.

 

 

 

Of course I don't think that. I think they waited because if they had just killed everybody at the beginning, The movies wouldn't have made as much money.

Because the people in the Star Wars galaxy totally know they are being made into a movie...

 

 

It was irrelevant to the question, not the discussion.If a death star that uses as much power as an artificial sun is possible, so is an artificial sun.

But the Death Star doesn't use an artificial Sun. Stars generate their power through fission is when atoms are broken and separated. Kind of like a fissure in the ground which separates the earth. The Death Star uses a Fusion Reactor. Fusion when the atoms are destroyed by being fused to other atoms, hence the term fusion

 

 

 

I take my Star Wars very seriously. I've spent more time studying every little minute detail of Star Wars then actual school work.

Teleportation is impractical as the energy required would be the equivalent of every nuclear bomb on earth going of at once.

 

How many nuclear bombs are currently on this planet?

 

Do you know anything about science? You can't mine a supernova. Supernovas are the massive explosion of a star. You'd burn up so quickly you wouldn't even know what happened. Plus the nearest supernova's are thousands of lightyears away. And of course it's a great idea to sell rare materials to germany! It's not like they are going to try to take over the world with it, again...and again....

 

A supernova is created when a star explodes. Then, after a long time, it cools down, leaving every known element.

 

And there's no such thing as a "magic house".

 

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

 

I already explained why everything in this quote is impractical to do during this century. If you want to ignore 90% of what I said feel free, but don't expect me to repeat myself.

 

Then we'll wait till next century.

 

You don't know anything about money do you?

 

1. Our money is not paper, it's actually made up of the fibers of a exotic plant. Paper comes from the pulp of trees.

 

Why are we wasting exotic plants on paper?

 

2. WE HAVE COINS WITH METALS TOO!

 

But they're not worth much. We don't have any coins that are worth more than a candy bar.

 

The OP didn't say anything. You said Star- Wars didn't have any technological advancements after lightsabers were made. I proved you wrong, now you are trying to pretend you didn't do anything.

 

"Star wars" is in the title of the thread.

 

You can't do that in a conversation! You have to stick to the topic! If I was to talk to you about antelopes but then suddenly switched to cotton candy you would think I was a lunatic! Social skills 101 buddy.

 

Why would we argue about antelopes?

 

Irrelevant information number 32.

 

Actually, it's number 23.

 

Because the people in the Star Wars galaxy totally know they are being made into a movie...

 

The people in the star wars galaxy don't exist, and therefore, don't know anything.

 

But the Death Star doesn't use an artificial Sun. Stars generate their power through fission is when atoms are broken and separated. Kind of like a fissure in the ground which separates the earth. The Death Star uses a Fusion Reactor. Fusion when the atoms are destroyed by being fused to other atoms, hence the term fusion

 

But it uses the same amount of energy as an artificial sun 1/4 the size of our moon.

 

 

I take my Star Wars very seriously. I've spent more time studying every little minute detail of Star Wars then actual school work.

 

I would call you a geek, but I'm also in a serious discussion about star wars right now too, so that would require calling myself a geek.

......i wonder what would happen if a trekie saw this

......i wonder what would happen if a trekie saw this

 

 

I'd tell them one Super Star Destroyer would be able to take on every armed ship in Star Trek and win.

......i wonder what would happen if a trekie saw this

 

Trekies don't play KH

Trekies don't play KH

 

Not necessarily.

Not necessarily.

 

Trekies don't usually like Kh very much. It's a fact. Count how many trekies are on this site and compare that number to the amount of star wars fans.

The people that like star trek don't usually like Kh very much. It's a fact. Count how many trekies are on this site and compare that number to the amount of star wars fans.

 

I guess since I like Star Trek, Star Wars and Kingdom Hearts, I'm an odd duck .