terraxaqua34 98 Posted September 22, 2011 Okay. I studied the scene about Xehanort. It looks like Even, Izeno, and braig have been turned into nobodies by Xehanort for some reason. I think he must have remembering about the keyblade and Kingdom Hearts. He must have done it to test the hearts of people and to see if they fall in darkness to turn into heartless. This is what I think. What do you think he did it for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted September 22, 2011 Awesome theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forever Love 82 Posted September 22, 2011 What bothers me (if this theory turns out true) is that Xehanort would have attacked Ienzo, who was just a child at the time. Isn't that a little...dark for Square? A child being "killed" off in a sense? It just chills me to the bone, thinking how evil that man could have been to do that. But he did pretty much put Ven's life at risk when he was 10 (considering he was Xehanort's apprentice 4 years before BBS). Anyway, it seems that he either goes crazy or truly is testing it for scientific reasons, and betrays Braig in the process. 1 SoraKH reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted September 22, 2011 What bothers me (if this theory turns out true) is that Xehanort would have attacked Ienzo, who was just a child at the time. Isn't that a little...dark for Square? A child being "killed" off in a sense? It just chills me to the bone, thinking how evil that man could have been to do that. But he did pretty much put Ven's life at risk when he was 10 (considering he was Xehanort's apprentice 4 years before BBS). Anyway, it seems that he either goes crazy or truly is testing it for scientific reasons, and betrays Braig in the process. I agree with you It does seem dark for Square to kill off a kid who is very young. I could understand Xehanort "killing" Braig and Even, since they're older, but why Ienzo? 1 SoraKH reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riku1123 11 Posted September 22, 2011 the only problem i have with this is if most nobodies retain their memories, why would Xigbar, Vexen, and Zexion follow Xemnas's rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted September 22, 2011 I agree with you It does seem dark for Square to kill off a kid who is very young. I could understand Xehanort "killing" Braig and Even, since they're older, but why Ienzo? I heard Ienzo took Xehanort's research book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBerserkerSaix07x 125 Posted September 22, 2011 Here's an idea,what if Terra took control of the body for the moment,thinking tht it was Braig who did that to Even and Ienzo?Braig then says has your memory returned on purpose(u kno,saying tht it was Terranort who did it and not him)and Terra says u lie and attacks him out of anger.Just a thought! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zaqareemalcolm 0 Posted September 22, 2011 Random Person stabbing kid: SHOCK! HORROR! Xehanort stabbing kid: Expected of him. He still a bloody bastard though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aru Akise 2,540 Posted September 22, 2011 What bothers me (if this theory turns out true) is that Xehanort would have attacked Ienzo, who was just a child at the time. Isn't that a little...dark for Square? A child being "killed" off in a sense? It just chills me to the bone, thinking how evil that man could have been to do that. But he did pretty much put Ven's life at risk when he was 10 (considering he was Xehanort's apprentice 4 years before BBS). Anyway, it seems that he either goes crazy or truly is testing it for scientific reasons, and betrays Braig in the process. I don't have any problem with anyone attacking kids. DIE KIDS! Oh, but kid Ienzo was so cute, poor damned kid.Betray braig? If Xehanort remembered about he being Master Xehanort, he wouldn't be betraying Braig. Do you remember how MX pointed his Keyblade right to Braig's throat? MX doesn't give a damn to anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bambii 34 Posted September 24, 2011 I'm 50/50 between thinking that Xehanort had actually forced the apprentices into Heartless/Nobodies and that perhaps Terra temporarily regained control over the body, although considering the limited amount of information we have the former seems more probable. There's also the possibility that this takes place A. in present time (maybe the resurrection principle of a Heartless then Nobody being destroyed also applies to the apprentices) or B. in the world of sleep. Either way, not nearly enough conclusive evidence for anything. I think Nomura's got something HUGE in store for us, and I don't think he's going to make it easy to figure it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted November 14, 2011 Lets look at the facts this is my theory(keyword theory) we know that the original incarnate of xehanort removed his heart from his body to posses terra(what happened to the original body hint hint). We know that although xehanort's heartless was defeated riku could still feel his faint influence(evident by his dark form) and continued to have it all the way until ansem the wise's kingdom hearts decoder exploded and seemingly stripped riku of his dark influence (was the influence remnants of xehanort and where did that go) We now know that ansem the wise had developed something that had the potential to help(possibly revive) all those he hurt. We also know that only someone really close would have the inside scoop as to what that was and there was only one person who it would been Xehanort. So what if ansem in his experiments on the heart discovered away to revive a being baised on fragments of their being (the body/soul, the heart, the mind/memories) and if this was the experiment that was preformed on the amesiac xehanort and it revived his memories in this way xehanort would have regained his memories of the keyblade and his goals and his origins( If that was true it would also explain the subtlte influeces of eraqus and terra in xemnas as their influnces would also have been awakened). If ansem and xehanort knew of the nobodies and heartless prior to the fall of ansem and the aprentices could this have been another plan to ensure xehanort's conscious would survive to see his plans through( remember in the newly formed terranort MX told terra that no matter who took controlof the boddy he still had alternate routes he could take) If this is true bet anything that Ienzo and Even(Rememeber Even was extremely interested in xehanort's memories and Ienzo was the one who suggested that Ansem build his lab) found out the secret and then Xehanort tested it on then his memories fully awakened and he attacked briag. Also read this excerpt from the secret ansem report 3 look at the order ansem uses when he describes the aprentices ascension to darkness.(does the first three ring any bells) Chaos affects not only this world, but many other worlds besides. In the "Ansem's Reports" my apprentice Xehanort had written under my name, I found the records of his hideous experiments along with his hypothesis about the door that had appeared out of the darkness in my basement. All living things have hearts, and all hearts hold darkness deep within. Worlds are no exception. If a world is a being, the heart it holds must be colossal... ...and the darkness at its core must be monstrous indeed. Did Xehanort pass through that door in an attempt to contact that dark realm? No, not only Xehanort. It appears my other five apprentices, believing it was for the sake of research, stared deep into the darkness and were pulled into it. Even, Ienzo, Braig, Dilan, and Aeleus... They have ceased to be human. I, too, have had everything taken away from me, banished to a hollow realm of nothingness. What is Xehanort hoping to gain with my pilfered existence? Will my people cease to smile? If the light of hope has been extinguished, I shall henceforth walk with darkness as a friend. Here, in the realm of nothingness to which I have been relegated. Darkness in the midst of nothing. "Darkness in Zero." Thus, I shall be known as DiZ. Discarding the stolen name "Ansem"... And going in search of revenge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites