could the red eye creature from the latest trailer be ventus heartless. Here is what I think: when Sora released his heart in KH1 he released his own heart and Ventus heart, creating 2 nobody and 2 heartless. Roxas is confused to be Sora's nobody even by Organization 13, naming him after Sora, but could he be Ventus's nobody. In the secret ending of birth by sleep final mix, we see ventus's body in castle oblivion disappearing. Did he disappear when Sora stabbed himself? We also see Sora's heartless when Kairi tried to protect him, but I think it was destroyed. Then Sora returned hugging Kairi, but here is the problem, I thought the somebody of a person only returned when a person's heartless and nobody was destroyed, but when did Sora's nobody was destroyed in Hollow Bastion? Could the Sora we play as after the vents of Hollow Bastion, CoM, KH2, and KH3d really be Sora's nobody. Roxas is now gone which means that Ventus nobody is gone. Now all that's left is to eliminate Ventus heartless and Sora's nobody so that their somebody's could return. Mr. Red Eyes could not be Sora's nobody, because only heartless that have evolved have either yellow round eyes, or red round eyes, so that only lead to Ventus's heartless. About Vanitas, I think he merged Terranort. When Sora sees Vanitas in the church, Young Xehanort has the same smile and gestures of Vanitas, but with Terra's power, and Xehanort tan skin and yellow eyes. He could also be only Xehaort and Vanitas fused without Terra, but then where could Terra be? Well this is my opinion, so please do not start hating on my specualtions. If you think I am wrong just say it nicely please. Thanks for listening.

I'm not forcing my opinion on no one I'm just bringing up a very broad subject to look into a little further if you feel its not worth talking about then just don't post to it that's what I meant by kids is that they can't help but to post something without making it personal lol

 

You are the one making it personal .Hypocrite much? You know darn well we have proven to you over and over and you still refuse to admit it.. Before calling us kids , how old are you ? Two, the kids proved you wrong.AGAIN

I did lol lea said it herself but found that in an interview posted to see wat people thought of it and here come the attacks lol

 

She didnt attack you, she tried correcting you, but you took it in a personal type of way

No one said it was personal, and there are points in your post where you was trying to force your opinion as fact, even when people gave you proof that it was not fact, and calling people children does not make you look like the better person

 

 

 

Exactly

Exactly

 

*smh* some people are stubborn, but they cant help it

I did lol lea said it herself but found that in an interview posted to see wat people thought of it and here come the attacks lol

 

Bc you posted an interview proving what we already told you but you twisted its words to fit your agenda ..I corrected you and then YOU attacked..All i said was i thought u finally got it on the other thread but apparently you didnt.

Here let me break it down for you so this doesn't go any further when a person with a strong heart falls to darkness or loses their heart,that heart becomes a heartless. The body and soul that is left behind develops it's own will and becomes a nobody .These are the normal conditions in which the two are formed. When a heartless and nobody are formed by one with of an extremely powerful will and heart they are able to retain their human form. So far only Apprentice Xehanort and Sora are capable of this. Now when Sora became a heartless(shadow) he was able to keep his memories and consciousness when Kairi aproached him she was able to create a temporary shell for him to use(note sora is still a heartless but has a human appearance) this is waht he used until he merged with roxas. Now the body and soul was that was left behind roxas was born. Now when Sora lost his heart he had within him Kairi's, Ventus, and his own heart when he realeased them Sora's heart became a heartless, Kairi' heart returned to her body and Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body. Roxas and namine were both born at that moment (namine using Sora's body as an intermediary.) and Because Ven's heart was still in Sora's body when he was born Roxas took the appearance of Ventus(the heart will always shape the vessell). This is why Roxas,Namine, and Xemnas are classified as special nobodies because they essentially are nobodies but were born with or by qualities that would classify them as otherwise.

 

understood lol

 

 

Bc you posted an interview proving what we already told you but you twisted its words to fit your agenda ..I corrected you and then YOU attacked..All i said was i thought u finally got it on the other thread but apparently you didnt.

 

twist words I did not..... But anyway then thanks everyone for there patience and knowledge then over the last couple threads just trying to cover all angles

Not push my personal agenda on a fan site lmao

Not push my personal agenda on a fan site lmao

 

Seriously..You were doing so good till this thread was brought up again.And yes you did take that interview outta context to once again use for your own agenda aka that you believe Roxas is Vens nobody when hes not.

 

 

Seriously..You were doing so good till this thread was brought up again.And yes you did take that interview outta context to once again use for your own agenda aka that you believe Roxas is Vens nobody when hes not.

 

ok sorry

I understand it now

roflmao

I thought this was ended earlier ??? Lmao

I thought this was ended earlier ??? Lmao

 

 

 

apparently not XDXD

i did not meant for this topic to become a fight :wacko:. Anyways, i guess it is true that Roxas is Sora's nobody, because a nobody is an "empty shell"(the body). Correct me if I'm wrong, but a heartless is the opposite of a body, a heart, right? Since Roxas has Ven's heart, that makes him more of a somebody instead a nobody, because he has a body and a heart, but the only problem is that none of both are his own. So does that make Roxas more of a somebody, or something else. Heck, I guess I'm confusing myself even more. Anyways, I made a new theory that has nothing to do with this Roxas/Ven topic, it is the topic called a "fragmentary passage...", and it has more proof than this one I made, so if it's possible can I lock or delete this thread, or does an admin has to do it. Sorry I'm new to this forum, and so far I'm enjoying myself in here by learning new stuff about my favorite RPG series.

 

apparently not XDXD

 

I just don't see the confusion ?( lol

i did not meant for this topic to become a fight :wacko:. Anyways, i guess it is true that Roxas is Sora's nobody, because a nobody is an "empty shell"(the body). Correct me if I'm wrong, but a heartless is the opposite of a body, a heart, right? Since Roxas has Ven's heart, that makes him more of a somebody instead a nobody, because he has a body and a heart, but the only problem is that none of both are his own. So does that make Roxas more of a somebody, or something else. Heck, I guess I'm confusing myself even more. Anyways, I made a new theory that has nothing to do with this Roxas/Ven topic, it is the topic called a "fragmentary passage...", and it has more proof than this one I made, so if it's possible can I lock or delete this thread, or does an admin has to do it. Sorry I'm new to this forum, and so far I'm enjoying myself in here by learning new stuff about my favorite RPG series.

 

Only admins can lock thread, but you can report them so that the admins know to lock them.