It's been a while since I posted a theory and this one was inspired by sorariku911. Ok with all this confusion with on who the Uknown figure I would like to bring the attention to a lesser talked about figure none other then the red eye hooded figure. Now we all know the common theory about it being Vanitas before Sora joined with Ventus. That should be enough to put our mind at ease and call it a wrap, but theres only one problem since when has Nomura ever made life simple for us.
Ok After some careful consideration and inspiration for sorariku911 I propose an alternative solution what if the red eyes is the heartless of Terra. Now before the flaming starts lets look at some facts.
Terranort/Apprentice Xehanort is a being with the combined hearts of Maste Eraqus,Master Xehanort, and Terra when he was created
When MX took over Terra's heart his body was left behind.
Terra and Master Xehanort exist as seperate entities within Terranort and both seem to share power equally as Terra was able to control MX's keyblade
Terranort has the ability to control the Guardian Heartless
Ansem SOD and Xemnas are the Heartless and Nobody of AX both considered a special class of their breed
Ansem SOD has the hearts of all three wielders mentioned above with Terra and MX in control.
Ansem possess Riku and it is implied by Nomura that he left a part of Terra within him.
Ansem is defeated in COM but Riku still senses his presence.
All traces of Ansem SOD are removed by Ansem the Wise's machine (where did they go)
Yen Sid states that When a Heartless and a Nobody are defeated the original person returns
He also states it is possible for more then just Xehanort to return.
Ok lets get on with the meat and bones of the theory. Now we know for a fact that a heartless is created form the darkness in ones heart and that nobody is left behind. We can also gather if person has more then heart it's possible for a heart to stay behind. We can also conclude that a heartless with more then one heart they could be seperated from the rest of the vessel. So what if when the heartless and nobody are defeated under these conditions are put back together is it possible that if all the components that made the original being are not in the original that their return is hindered.
So lets apply some facts to see if this is possible using my list
Terranort/Apprentice Xehanort is a being with the combined hearts of Maste Eraqus,Master Xehanort, and Terra
This means that these are all the components needed to create Terranort/AX
Now lets take moment ot consider that Master Xehanort left his body behind to control Terra if he indeed spawned a nobody we can count it as a seperate entity from Terranort.
Terranort has the ability to control the Guardian Heartless
I believe we can also count this as a seperate entity from Terranort
Now I believe the gaurdian heartless to be Master Xehanort the real MX. On would could logically call him a heartless because without Terra he no longer has a body. Notice that guardia heartless was only assiated with beings that involved MX's heart. (Riku as Ansem,Terranort,and Ansem SOD.) and also notice in BBS when Aqua fights Terranort one of the reaction commands involve a Trinity limit with Terra to The gaurdian. Also notice they did it only too the Gaurdian wouldn't logic dictate that Terranort was the bigger threat?
Ansem SOD had the hearts of all three wielders mentioned above with Terra and MX in control when he was created.
Ansem possess Riku and it is implied by Nomura that he left a part of Terra within him.
If person has more then heart it's possible for a heart to stay behind in the body when they become heartless.
Now judging by Roxas we can gather that a being with more then one heart can produce a nobody that has one of or the extra heart within him at the time of birth. Now we all came to the conclusion that Xemnas was controlled by terra and Ansem SOD by MX but Nomura makes this statement that contradict this.
-- In "KHI", the robed man, Ansem the Wise's apprentice Xehanort's Heartless (the body of Xehanort's Heartless before he inhabited Riku's body), appeared on the Destiny Islands. Is this because it was Master Xehanort's homeworld?
Nomura: That may be one reason, but if he somehow had some of Terra's memories, we can consider that it might be because he had laid eyes on Riku previously. In terms of the elements of Terra and Master Xehanort, I think the questions of how their power is related and divided, as well as who has whose memories and heart, will become a key to the story* after this one.
There are mutiple ways you can interpret this statement but one of the things it suggests is that terra had to have some manner of control over Ansem SOD we know for sure that MX had some control over him. But what we don't see is any influence of Eraqus which leads me to beleive it is he who controls Xemnas while Terra and MX control Ansem SOD.
My second point is nomura has hinted at the fact that a part of terra lies within riku during his possesion. So relating these points to may theory and if all thes are true then at the time of his possesion riku had both Terra's Heart MX Heart(possibly the guadian) as well as his own. Now we all know that riku defeated ansem but retained a part of him. Now bare in mind that MX used Terra's Darkness as an ark. What I'm suggesting is the Terra within Ansem SOD di the same and transfered his heart into Riku, But when the machine exploded it possibly released the last remnant of Terranort heartless which would have been Terra's heart thus creating a new heartless.
Now If all this is true then it is quite possible for all the nort's to exist because all the components of Terranort/AX are not yet with the whole being.
It's been a while since I posted a theory and this one was inspired by sorariku911. Ok with all this confusion with on who the Uknown figure I would like to bring the attention to a lesser talked about figure none other then the red eye hooded figure. Now we all know the common theory about it being Vanitas before Sora joined with Ventus. That should be enough to put our mind at ease and call it a wrap, but theres only one problem since when has Nomura ever made life simple for us.
Ok After some careful consideration and inspiration for sorariku911 I propose an alternative solution what if the red eyes is the heartless of Terra. Now before the flaming starts lets look at some facts.
- Terranort/Apprentice Xehanort is a being with the combined hearts of Maste Eraqus,Master Xehanort, and Terra when he was created
- When MX took over Terra's heart his body was left behind.
- Terra and Master Xehanort exist as seperate entities within Terranort and both seem to share power equally as Terra was able to control MX's keyblade
- Terranort has the ability to control the Guardian Heartless
- Ansem SOD and Xemnas are the Heartless and Nobody of AX both considered a special class of their breed
- Ansem SOD has the hearts of all three wielders mentioned above with Terra and MX in control.
- Ansem possess Riku and it is implied by Nomura that he left a part of Terra within him.
- Ansem is defeated in COM but Riku still senses his presence.
- All traces of Ansem SOD are removed by Ansem the Wise's machine (where did they go)
- Yen Sid states that When a Heartless and a Nobody are defeated the original person returns
- He also states it is possible for more then just Xehanort to return.
Ok lets get on with the meat and bones of the theory. Now we know for a fact that a heartless is created form the darkness in ones heart and that nobody is left behind. We can also gather if person has more then heart it's possible for a heart to stay behind. We can also conclude that a heartless with more then one heart they could be seperated from the rest of the vessel. So what if when the heartless and nobody are defeated under these conditions are put back together is it possible that if all the components that made the original being are not in the original that their return is hindered.So lets apply some facts to see if this is possible using my list
Now lets take moment ot consider that Master Xehanort left his body behind to control Terra if he indeed spawned a nobody we can count it as a seperate entity from Terranort.
- Terranort has the ability to control the Guardian Heartless
- I believe we can also count this as a seperate entity from Terranort
Now I believe the gaurdian heartless to be Master Xehanort the real MX. On would could logically call him a heartless because without Terra he no longer has a body. Notice that guardia heartless was only assiated with beings that involved MX's heart. (Riku as Ansem,Terranort,and Ansem SOD.) and also notice in BBS when Aqua fights Terranort one of the reaction commands involve a Trinity limit with Terra to The gaurdian. Also notice they did it only too the Gaurdian wouldn't logic dictate that Terranort was the bigger threat?- Ansem SOD had the hearts of all three wielders mentioned above with Terra and MX in control when he was created.
- Ansem possess Riku and it is implied by Nomura that he left a part of Terra within him.
- If person has more then heart it's possible for a heart to stay behind in the body when they become heartless.
Now judging by Roxas we can gather that a being with more then one heart can produce a nobody that has one of or the extra heart within him at the time of birth. Now we all came to the conclusion that Xemnas was controlled by terra and Ansem SOD by MX but Nomura makes this statement that contradict this.-- In "KHI", the robed man, Ansem the Wise's apprentice Xehanort's Heartless (the body of Xehanort's Heartless before he inhabited Riku's body), appeared on the Destiny Islands. Is this because it was Master Xehanort's homeworld?
Nomura: That may be one reason, but if he somehow had some of Terra's memories, we can consider that it might be because he had laid eyes on Riku previously. In terms of the elements of Terra and Master Xehanort, I think the questions of how their power is related and divided, as well as who has whose memories and heart, will become a key to the story* after this one.
There are mutiple ways you can interpret this statement but one of the things it suggests is that terra had to have some manner of control over Ansem SOD we know for sure that MX had some control over him. But what we don't see is any influence of Eraqus which leads me to beleive it is he who controls Xemnas while Terra and MX control Ansem SOD.
My second point is nomura has hinted at the fact that a part of terra lies within riku during his possesion. So relating these points to may theory and if all thes are true then at the time of his possesion riku had both Terra's Heart MX Heart(possibly the guadian) as well as his own. Now we all know that riku defeated ansem but retained a part of him. Now bare in mind that MX used Terra's Darkness as an ark. What I'm suggesting is the Terra within Ansem SOD di the same and transfered his heart into Riku, But when the machine exploded it possibly released the last remnant of Terranort heartless which would have been Terra's heart thus creating a new heartless.
Now If all this is true then it is quite possible for all the nort's to exist because all the components of Terranort/AX are not yet with the whole being.
Let the discussion begin