Will Org. XII finally acknowledge Heartless? Unversed?

In Kingdom Hearts II it's just, "pitiful Heartless", "Heartless are weaker then Nobodies", "they will help form Kingdom Hearts"" yadda, yadda, yadda. Maybe they'll be recognized with Ansem SOD being a member of the Org. now.

 

As for the Unversed who's return is inevitable at this point.. how will the Orginization XIII react to them?

I don't think there is even going to still be an Organization XIII. As the past members get revived, I don't think they'll want to join the Org. again. They'll all just do there own thing probably.

 

And how is the Unversed return inevitable. The Unversed will only return if Vanitas does and so far Vanitas (the real Vanitas, not an illusion in the RoS), has yet to make an appearance. So...

I don't think there is even going to still be an Organization XIII. As the past members get revived, I don't think they'll want to join the Org. again. They'll all just do there own thing probably.

 

And how is the Unversed return inevitable. The Unversed will only return if Vanitas does and so far Vanitas (the real Vanitas, not an illusion in the RoS), has yet to make an appearance. So...

 

Hey it's Kingdom Hearts! Don't underestimate the power of Tetsuya Trollmura-sama!

I don't think there is even going to still be an Organization XIII. As the past members get revived, I don't think they'll want to join the Org. again. They'll all just do there own thing probably.

 

And how is the Unversed return inevitable. The Unversed will only return if Vanitas does and so far Vanitas (the real Vanitas, not an illusion in the RoS), has yet to make an appearance. So...

 

This bc it makes sense lol

I don't think there is even going to still be an Organization XIII. As the past members get revived, I don't think they'll want to join the Org. again. They'll all just do there own thing probably.

 

And how is the Unversed return inevitable. The Unversed will only return if Vanitas does and so far Vanitas (the real Vanitas, not an illusion in the RoS), has yet to make an appearance. So...

 

Vanitas was an illusion in the Ros? How is that possible?

 

Hey it's Kingdom Hearts! Don't underestimate the power of Tetsuya Trollmura-sama!

 

Yes, Trollmura does like to firetruck with us. However, even by Nomura logic, the Org has no need to be anymore. They were all betrayed by Xemnas and the only reason they were together in the first place was because Xemnas lied to them, saying that he could give them their hearts. That was it. It wasn't bc they were friends or had other 'master plans'. They wanted hearts. Now they have them.

 

And I'm not saying that the Unversed WON'T come back, I'm just saying that at this time it seems unlikely.

Yes, Trollmura does like to firetruck with us. However, even by Nomura logic, the Org has no need to be anymore. They were all betrayed by Xemnas and the only reason they were together in the first place was because Xemnas lied to them, saying that he could give them their hearts. That was it. It wasn't bc they were friends or had other 'master plans'. They wanted hearts. Now they have them.

 

And I'm not saying that the Unversed WON'T come back, I'm just saying that at this time it seems unlikely.

 

This and the fact that even when they were in the Org there were several already working to take over the org themselves.Even then they werent really always working together for a common goal but for what benefitted their personal goals as well

 

 

This and the fact that even when they were in the Org there were several already working to take over the org themselves.Even then they werent really always working together for a common goal but for what benefitted their personal goals as well

 

That too exactly.

Xemnas=Xehanort- May want to restart the Org.

Xigbar=Braig- Probably stick with Xehanort

Xaldin= Dilan- Probably stick with Eausao Earu Aur, Laxeaus's Somebody

Vexen= Even- Probably stick with Ienzo

Laxeaus= Eausao Earu Aur, Laxeaus's Somebody- Probably stick with Dilan

Zexion= Ienzo- Probably stick with Even

Saix= Isa- Loner?/Look for Lea?

Axel= Lea- Looks for Roxas/Sora/Ventus. Looks like he's on his own.

Demyx= ?- Not a clue

Luxord= ?- Not a clue

Marluxia= ?- Probably stick w/ Larxene's Somebody

Larxene= ?- Probably stick w/ Marluxia's Somebody

Roxas= Roxas/Sora- Inside of Sora

Xion= Xion/Sora- Inside of Sora.

 

As you can see, at best, Organization XIII would probably be max 11 (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, X, XI, XII) or more likely 9 (taking out the rebels from CoM).

 

Then again, Xemnas and Ansem SoD could fill the ranks, along with Young Master Xehanort.

Xemnas=Xehanort- May want to restart the Org.

Xigbar=Braig- Probably stick with Xehanort

Xaldin= Dilan- Probably stick with Eausao Earu Aur, Laxeaus's Somebody

Vexen= Even- Probably stick with Ienzo

Laxeaus= Eausao Earu Aur, Laxeaus's Somebody- Probably stick with Dilan

Zexion= Ienzo- Probably stick with Even

Saix= Isa- Loner?/Look for Lea?

Axel= Lea- Looks for Roxas/Sora/Ventus. Looks like he's on his own.

Demyx= ?- Not a clue

Luxord= ?- Not a clue

Marluxia= ?- Probably stick w/ Larxene's Somebody

Larxene= ?- Probably stick w/ Marluxia's Somebody

Roxas= Roxas/Sora- Inside of Sora

Xion= Xion/Sora- Inside of Sora.

 

As you can see, at best, Organization XIII would probably be max 11 (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, X, XI, XII) or more likely 9 (taking out the rebels from CoM).

 

Then again, Xemnas and Ansem SoD could fill the ranks, along with Young Master Xehanort.

 

Well, there are 11 other figures at the end of the Special Trailer alongside YMX/Unknown. Since Ansem SoD, Xemnas and Braig have been seen in The World That Never Was, I'm gonna think that they are part of this new "Organization". (Btw, Laxeaus' Somebody's name is Aeleus)

I don't think there is even going to still be an Organization XIII. As the past members get revived, I don't think they'll want to join the Org. again. They'll all just do there own thing probably.

 

And how is the Unversed return inevitable. The Unversed will only return if Vanitas does and so far Vanitas (the real Vanitas, not an illusion in the RoS), has yet to make an appearance. So...

 

How do you know Vanitas will be an Illusion? It was never stated and he could of been revived by MF like the others. I dont see an "illusion" of Ansem SOD can attack riku like he did..

Laxeaus= Eausao Earu Aur, Laxeaus's Somebody- Probably stick with Dilan

 

Lexaeus somebody is named Aeleus, in case u should wonder...

How do you know Vanitas will be an Illusion? It was never stated and he could of been revived by MF like the others. I dont see an "illusion" of Ansem SOD can attack riku like he did..

 

Hes not saying that Vanitas is only an illusion but that since we have seen him in the dream realm but not yet necessarily in the realm of light we dont know if hes truly revived or only existing in the sleeping worlds ..Also im sure any person in the sleeping worlds can attack anyone else there.

 

 

How do you know Vanitas will be an Illusion? It was never stated and he could of been revived by MF like the others. I dont see an "illusion" of Ansem SOD can attack riku like he did..

 

Actually Nomura has stated that Vanitas, Ansem SoD, and Xemnas were sort of illusions. He said that where ever the Unknown went beings of darkness would manifest themselves too. So they aren't "illusions" I suppose, more like manifestations. Regardless, the Vanitas we see in the trailers isn't the real Vanitas.

 

 

Actually Nomura has stated that Vanitas, Ansem SoD, and Xemnas were sort of illusions. He said that where ever the Unknown went beings of darkness would manifest themselves too. So they aren't "illusions" I suppose, more like manifestations. Regardless, the Vanitas we see in the trailers isn't the real Vanitas.

 

Perhaps the Vanitas manifestation is a symbol of the events that occurred in "Birth by Sleep".

 

 

Perhaps the Vanitas manifestation is a symbol of the events that occurred in "Birth by Sleep".

 

My guess is that the MF summoned Vanitas there to confuse, decieve, or mess with Sora or Vanitas is there bc he has a higher purpose that we don't know of yet.

 

 

My guess is that the MF summoned Vanitas there to confuse, decieve, or mess with Sora or Vanitas is there bc he has a higher purpose that we don't know of yet.

 

I agree Perhaps the MF can create phantasms (ghosts) as well

 

 

I agree Perhaps the MF can create phantasms (ghosts) as well

 

Hm, I don't think so, bc no one's ever died in KH before. Unless you meant something else. The people we've seen him manifest so far have never died.

Hm, I don't think so, bc no one's ever died in KH before. Unless you meant something else. The people we've seen him manifest so far have never died.

 

Oh, no, I meant hallucinations, illusions, and visions that only the main characters can see when I said "ghosts"