So we know that Master Xehanort is gathering 13 dark beings to fight the 7 light. We know a few of these people...

Master Xehanort

Young Xehanort

Xemnas

Ansem, Seeker of Darkness

Xigbar (Or has he become Braig?)

and Siax (Or has he become Isa?)

The thing that all of these characters have in common is their eyes. They all have Yellow Eyes. Originally people thought that Yellow Eyes meant that they had fallen to darkness. Now I'm thinking that Yellow Eyes means that a piece of Xehanort's heart resides in these characters and that means they are one of the 13.

So we know that Master Xehanort is gathering 13 dark beings to fight the 7 light. We know a few of these people...

Master Xehanort

Young Xehanort

Xemnas

Ansem, Seeker of Darkness

Xigbar (Or has he become Braig?)

and Siax (Or has he become Isa?)

The thing that all of these characters have in common is their eyes. They all have Yellow Eyes. Originally people thought that Yellow Eyes meant that they had fallen to darkness. Now I'm thinking that Yellow Eyes means that a piece of Xehanort's heart resides in these characters and that means they are one of the 13.

 

in the cutscenes they specifically call him xigbar. i think that lea calls saix isa, but that could be a mess up on lea's part.

in the cutscenes they specifically call him xigbar. i think that lea calls saix isa, but that could be a mess up on lea's part.

 

No, they are Isa and Braig, Xigbar and Saix died. Maybe since they are still in the Organization they called them by their Organization's names.

 

So we know that Master Xehanort is gathering 13 dark beings to fight the 7 light. We know a few of these people...

Master Xehanort

Young Xehanort

Xemnas

Ansem, Seeker of Darkness

Xigbar (Or has he become Braig?)

and Siax (Or has he become Isa?)

The thing that all of these characters have in common is their eyes. They all have Yellow Eyes. Originally people thought that Yellow Eyes meant that they had fallen to darkness. Now I'm thinking that Yellow Eyes means that a piece of Xehanort's heart resides in these characters and that means they are one of the 13.

 

Yeah, it's very clear by now that yellow eyes and pointy ears mean Xehanort.

Edited April 2, 201213 yr by Moni_22

Also just remembered that Vanitas has the same eyes. Probably makes him one of the 13... if he comes back from the dead, which is likely to happen all things considered.

No, they are Isa and Braig, Xigbar and Saix died. Maybe since they are still in the Organization they called them by their Organization's names.

 

 

 

Yeah, it's very clear by now that yellow eyes and pointy ears mean Xehanort.

 

young xehanort also brought everyone from the past. that would include "xigbar" and "saix."

Also just remembered that Vanitas has the same eyes. Probably makes him one of the 13... if he comes back from the dead, which is likely to happen all things considered.

 

But Vanitas doesn't have pointy ears.

 

young xehanort also brought everyone from the past. that would include "xigbar" and "saix."

 

No, they must be the original Isa and Braig, like Lea, Ienzo and the others.

But Vanitas doesn't have pointy ears.

 

 

 

No, they must be the original Isa and Braig, like Lea, Ienzo and the others.

 

why must they be? especially considering in the scenes they specifically call him "Xigbar."

why must they be? especially considering in the scenes they specifically call him "Xigbar."

 

But I still think they are the original. Saïx and Xigbar died, so the original came back, like Lea, Even, Ienzo, Aeleus and Dilan. Then, if they are really Saïx and Xigbar, where are the original Isa and Braig? There weren't in the castle, they are with the new Organization.

Why couldn't it be both the original and the Nobody? after all both Xemnas and Master Xehanort are back... Maybe the original just isn't unmasked yet.

But I still think they are the original. Saïx and Xigbar died, so the original came back, like Lea, Even, Ienzo, Aeleus and Dilan. Then, if they are really Saïx and Xigbar, where are the original Isa and Braig? There weren't in the castle, they are with the new Organization.

 

we don't know where they are, yet. the ones we saw were the xigbar and saix, that young xehnanort pulled from the past. that is why they faded back to their time along with all of the other "xehanorts." braig and isa may still be out there, but these two are not the reborn somebodys.

But Vanitas doesn't have pointy ears.

 

 

 

No, they must be the original Isa and Braig, like Lea, Ienzo and the others.

 

Why do they "Must" be? Where is it stated that they werent brought back just because they look like when they were nobodies.

I think the red eyes Riku battles is Vanitas, though in bbs he has yellow eyes making it possible

also it has been shown in the bbs ending that Ansem The Wise had yellow eyes..

and I also have been thinking of Eraqus for some reason but I can't see why myself..

From the videos I've seen a rough translation of what Braig and Xemnas told Sora was that half of Braig was already Xehanort, hence the gold eyes and pointy ears must be the deal for taken on Terra or so that he can hold Aqua off.

we don't know where they are, yet. the ones we saw were the xigbar and saix, that young xehnanort pulled from the past. that is why they faded back to their time along with all of the other "xehanorts." braig and isa may still be out there, but these two are not the reborn somebodys.

 

Actually they most likely are thei somebody's. In the credits Xigbar is actually called Braig and as we know Lea said Isa when meeting him.

Actually they most likely are thei somebody's. In the credits Xigbar is actually called Braig and as we know Lea said Isa when meeting him.

 

are you sure that when braig was being credited that wasn't referring to the braig at the beginning of the game, when "ansem" stabbed him with his keyblade? also, lea may have called him isa because he thought it was the reborn one. it may be isa, but i'm sure that it's xigbar, considering young xehanort referred to him as such and he disappeared along with the other "xehanorts" to return to their respective timelines.

Actually they most likely are thei somebody's. In the credits Xigbar is actually called Braig and as we know Lea said Isa when meeting him.

 

Yeah, that's right! In the credits it says "Braig". Isa is not in the credits because he didn't say anything, but I think there are their somebodies.

are you sure that when braig was being credited that wasn't referring to the braig at the beginning of the game, when "ansem" stabbed him with his keyblade? also, lea may have called him isa because he thought it was the reborn one. it may be isa, but i'm sure that it's xigbar, considering young xehanort referred to him as such and he disappeared along with the other "xehanorts" to return to their respective timelines.

 

To be honest right now there's no way of knowing.

To be honest right now there's no way of knowing.

 

if i find xigbar's name in the credits i'll let you know.

To be honest right now there's no way of knowing.

 

i did not see xigbar credited, so you might be right. although, it could also, be that they don't want to credit the actor for both roles, when they are kind of the same person. for now, i'm not sure, but maybe we'll find out when the ultimania comes out next month or the english version, when they translate over the names.

In the opening i thought the seven lights where roxas aqua ventuz sora riku mikey terra but now is it sorA riku kiri axel terra aqua ventus and mikey no thats 8 someone help me

i did not see xigbar credited, so you might be right. although, it could also, be that they don't want to credit the actor for both roles, when they are kind of the same person. for now, i'm not sure, but maybe we'll find out when the ultimania comes out next month or the english version, when they translate over the names.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36JAMEGSd38

 

10:15

 

It says "Braig"

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=36JAMEGSd38

 

10:15

 

It says "Braig"

 

i know. but, braig was also at the beginning from a flashback before kingdom hearts 1. so, its possible it's crediting him for that. although it is possible, it's crediting him for both roles, whether or not he is braig or xigbar.

In the opening i thought the seven lights where roxas aqua ventuz sora riku mikey terra but now is it sorA riku kiri axel terra aqua ventus and mikey no thats 8 someone help me

 

When it comes to that its just going to be a wait and see kind of thing... all of those characters could be one of the seven lights. You could also count Namine and Xion too I think because like it was said in Re:Coded they still need to be "saved from their torment".

ok...........

But I still think they are the original. Saïx and Xigbar died, so the original came back, like Lea, Even, Ienzo, Aeleus and Dilan. Then, if they are really Saïx and Xigbar, where are the original Isa and Braig? There weren't in the castle, they are with the new Organization.

 

Maybe Isa and Braig didn't come back because Xigbar and Saix were Xemnas' right hand men. They seem to have been MX's only successes in the original organization. For all we know, Lea, Even, Ienzo, Aeleus and Dilan could be MX's "failures" so that's why they came back.

Maybe Isa and Braig didn't come back because Xigbar and Saix were Xemnas' right hand men. They seem to have been MX's only successes in the original organization. For all we know, Lea, Even, Ienzo, Aeleus and Dilan could be MX's "failures" so that's why they came back.

 

Lea, as we know since KH2 it's nice and a good person even as a Nobody, so i think his body wouldn't even handle/want a fragment of MX heart inside him.

Even, even though he was a nice person, his nobody, Vexen, was arrogant and bad, so i think he won't appear anymore, at least before/during KH3.

Ienzo is awesome, simple as that.

Aeleus, just like his nobody, Lexaeus, was calm, but just a bit bad, the same goes for Dilan, but Xaldin was kind of a real bad guy, however these 2 real beings, the somebodies are nice people.

This is the reasons i think they couldn't go as vessels.