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*MAJOR SPOILERS* Speculation of the Seven Lights and the Thirteen Darkness

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Seven Guardians:

 

Sora.

 

Riku.

 

Kairi.

 

Ventus.

 

Aqua.

 

Lea.

 

Mickey.

 

Thirteen Seekers:

 

Master Xehanort.

 

Young Xehanort.

 

"Ansem" the Seeker of Darkness.

 

Xemnas.

 

Xigbar.

 

Saix.

 

Terra-Xehanort.

 

Xehanort.

 

Vanitas Remnant.

 

Marluxia.

 

Larxene.

 

Demyx.

 

Luxord.

 

any thoughts on these selections anyone?

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    OMG That means absolutely nothing . We have been over this . Nowhere did it say Eraqus fought MX off or was even successful . You know this. MX straight up said he has Terra on his side right now . He

  • HarLea Quinn
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    Or maybe He means Terra is under his present control . You are in DENIAL boy .. You dont want to believe Terra is still under MX's control when its obvious he still is . Chillax. They will save him .

  • HarLea Quinn
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    MX straight up said Terra is still in his control . You are in denial . Prove hes not . Its not Ven its talking about nor Aqua. Its TERRA. and Terra cant be a light until hes rescued . They are picked

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Seven Guardians:

 

Sora.

 

Riku.

 

Kairi.

 

Ventus.

 

Aqua.

 

Lea.

 

Mickey.

 

Thirteen Seekers:

 

Master Xehanort.

 

Young Xehanort.

 

"Ansem" the Seeker of Darkness.

 

Xemnas.

 

Xigbar.

 

Saix.

 

Terra-Xehanort.

 

Xehanort.

 

Vanitas Remnant.

 

Marluxia.

 

Larxene.

 

Demyx.

 

Luxord.

 

any thoughts on these selections anyone?

 

According to Mickey, the Guardians are:

 

1. Mickey himself

 

2. Sora

 

3. Riku

 

4. Terra

 

5. Aqua

 

6. Ven

 

7. ???

Edited by Alan Smithee

Mickey seems to believe that he himself, along with Sora, Riku, his "three missing friends" (Terra, Aqua, and Ven), and a currently unknown "seventh", are the Guardians.

 

Then Xehanort says that one of the people "on Mickey's list" belongs to him now. Maybe he means BBS-Terranort time-traveled from the past, when his control over Terra was at its peak? Or perhaps he means the unknown "seventh"?

 

 

Or maybe He means Terra is under his present control . You are in DENIAL boy :P.. You dont want to believe Terra is still under MX's control when its obvious he still is . Chillax. They will save him . He means belongs to him PRESENTLY not in the past . Althought a past version of Terranort could still be one of them .

 

 

TC.I just realized you need SPOILERS in your thread too.

Edited by Flaming Lea

Or maybe He means Terra is under his present control . You are in DENIAL boy :P.. You dont want to believe Terra is still under MX's control when its obvious he still is . Chillax. They will save him . He means belongs to him PRESENTLY not in the past . Althought a past version of Terranort could still be one of them .

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1QCBF3h_tM

MX straight up said Terra is still in his control . You are in denial . Prove hes not . Its not Ven its talking about nor Aqua. Its TERRA. and Terra cant be a light until hes rescued . They are picked naturally so if hes still under MX's control another light will be in his place.

Edited by Flaming Lea

MX straight up said Terra is still in his control . You are in denial . Prove hes not . Its not Ven its halking about nor Aqua. Its TERRA. and Terra cant be a light until hes rescued . They are picked naturally so if hes still under MX's control another light will be in his place.

 

And if it wasn't for Eraqus also being inside Terra, then I'd be inclined to believe you.

And if it wasn't for Eraqus also being inside Terra, then I'd be inclined to believe you.

 

 

OMG That means absolutely nothing . We have been over this . Nowhere did it say Eraqus fought MX off or was even successful . You know this. MX straight up said he has Terra on his side right now . He still one of the one needing rescued .

I think this is the list, could of sworn I saw it somewhere...

 

7 Guardians of light:

 

1. Sora

 

2. Riku

 

3. Mickey

 

4. Terra (I think Terra will eventually be rescued by Sora, freeing him from MX's grasp so he will no longer be a darkness and become a light)

 

5. Aqua

 

6. Ven

 

7. Unkown at the time (Possibly Lea, or Kairi?)

 

13 Seekers of darkness:

 

1. Master Xehanort

 

2. Ansem

 

3. Xemnas

 

4. Braig

 

5. Isa

 

6. Young Master Xehanort

 

As for 7-13 they are just past selves of MX

Edited by Stigma

OMG That means absolutely nothing . We have been over this . Nowhere did it say Eraqus fought MX off or was even successful . You know this. MX straight up said he has Terra on his side right now . He still one of the one needing rescued .

 

Personally, my belief is that Terra/Eraqus got revived somewhere else after Ansem SOD and Xemnas were defeated (similar to how at the end of KH1 Riku returned after Ansem SOD was defeated), and Sora & Co. just have to find him/them.

 

Also, let me get this straight:

 

Nomura puts Eraqus's Heart inside Terra, and then has it.... just do nothing....

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vt2F2YKzyA

Personally, my belief is that Terra/Eraqus got revived somewhere else after Ansem SOD and Xemnas were defeated (similar to how at the end of KH1 Riku returned after Ansem SOD was defeated), and Sora & Co. just have to find him/them.

 

Also, let me get this straight:

 

Nomura puts Eraqus's Heart inside Terra, and then has it.... just do nothing....

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vt2F2YKzyA

 

 

Well thats your opinion . I can list a bunch of things ' firetrucking stupid ' with this plot bc i dont like it but that doesnt make the plot point not happening. Just saying.. We know nothing about Eraqus since that scene but DO Know MX did take control eventually of AX hence his summoning of his keyblade and stabbing everyone and the rest of his plan and everyone ( Ansem and Xemnas) going alongside it ..Meanwhile we see no signs of Eraqus.Since when does every little 'idea' or hint mean it ends up how you think in Nomuras writing? . If Eraqus does anything at all ,it might be helping fight for Terra in the KH3 to help Sora and others seperate them.

Edited by Flaming Lea

Well thats your opinion . I can list a bunch of things ' firetrucking stupid ' with this plot bc i dont like it but that doesnt make the plot point less stupid. Just saying.. We know nothing about Eraqus since that scene but DO Know MX did take control eventually of AX hence his summoning of his keyblade and stabbing everyone and the rest of his plan and everyone ( Ansem and Xemnas) going alongside it ..Meanwhile we see no signs of Eraqus.Since when does every little 'idea' or hint mean it ends up how you think in Nomuras writing? . If Eraqus does anything at all ,it might be helping fight for Terra in the KH3 to help Sora and others seperate them.

 

Think of it this way:

 

If it turns out you're right, then I'll shut up about it. But until I see one of those hooded figures from DDD remove said hood to reveal Terra, then I'm just not convinced.

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I think this is the list, could of sworn I saw it somewhere...

 

7 Guardians of light:

 

1. Sora

 

2. Riku

 

3. Mickey

 

4. Terra (I think Terra will eventually be rescued by Sora, freeing him from MX's grasp so he will no longer be a darkness and become a light)

 

5. Aqua

 

6. Ven

 

7. Unkown at the time (Possibly Lea, or Kairi?)

 

13 Seekers of darkness:

 

1. Master Xehanort

 

2. Ansem

 

3. Xemnas

 

4. Braig

 

5. Isa

 

6. Young Master Xehanort

 

As for 7-13 they are just past selves of MX

 

Think of it this way:

 

If it turns out you're right, then I'll shut up about it. But until I see one of those hooded figures from DDD remove said hood to reveal Terra, then I'm just not convinced.

 

I don't think Terra is one of the Seven Lights since he could very well be both Terra-Xehanort and Xehanort whom both might very well be part of the New Organization XIII and let's not argue please there's no point to it.

Think of it this way:

 

If it turns out you're right, then I'll shut up about it. But until I see one of those hooded figures from DDD remove said hood to reveal Terra, then I'm just not convinced.

 

Thats fine but dont tell me what im saying is bullshit when im backing up my post and all you are using for backup is a scene from games ago in a series that changes things up completely game by game and in the secret ending where everyone knows secret endings in past have mislead people bc they took it lterally or nomura straight up changed things. MX straight up says Terra is on his side . You cant dispute that .Until hes saved

omg u guys should really stop fight. (PLEASE!! :() AND IK! the 7th light is lea. its actually already pretty obvious.dont you remember.

 

lea got his own keyblade at the end of the game.

 

omg u guys should really stop fight. (PLEASE!! :() AND IK! the 7th light is lea. its actually already pretty obvious.dont you remember.

 

lea got his own keyblade at the end of the game.

 

 

 

We are discussing . It doesnt get into an argument until Alan wants to get rude xD

I think this is the list, could of sworn I saw it somewhere...

 

7 Guardians of light:

 

1. Sora

 

2. Riku

 

3. Mickey

 

4. Terra (I think Terra will eventually be rescued by Sora, freeing him from MX's grasp so he will no longer be a darkness and become a light)

 

5. Aqua

 

6. Ven

 

7. Unkown at the time (Possibly Lea, or Kairi?)

 

13 Seekers of darkness:

 

1. Master Xehanort

 

2. Ansem

 

3. Xemnas

 

4. Braig

 

5. Isa

 

6. Young Master Xehanort

 

As for 7-13 they are just past selves of MX

 

Terra's heart is inside Terra-nort and if Terra-nort is one of the 13 darks then Terra won't be able to be one of the lights, simple. People always seem to over-look the Lingering Will which is essentially Terra's will and wields his Keyblade.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,make of this what ever you will but we won't know whose who until the next game, that's for sure.

Just because Eraqus was inside Terra does not mean it would be effective fighting MX. Look at this way if Terra's armor failed to block the nort when it's purpose was to protect it's wearer from darkness what was Eraqus who has zero experience controlling darkness.MX has also straight up said he has Terra under his control and plus we don't even know if that final mix scene is still canon seeing as DDD has taken the plot 360 degrees.

We are discussing . It doesnt get into an argument until Alan wants to get rude xD

 

No rudeness intended.

 

I just like posting clips.

 

Just because Eraqus was inside Terra does not mean it would be effective fighting MX. Look at this way if Terra's armor failed to block the nort when it's purpose was to protect it's wearer from darkness what was Eraqus who has zero experience controlling darkness.MX has also straight up said he has Terra under his control and plus we don't even know if that final mix scene is still canon seeing as DDD has taken the plot 360 degrees.

 

It's true that Eraqus has zero experience controlling Darkness, but he does have loads of experience controlling Light, which is commonly used to repel Darkness.

 

MX only said, "another on your list belongs to me now." He never gave a name.

 

Furthermore, MX forcing one of the Lights to instead become a Darkness means no X-Blade (which requires 7 vs. 13; 6 vs. 13 won't do the job).

Edited by Alan Smithee

Terra's heart is inside Terra-nort and if Terra-nort is one of the 13 darks then Terra won't be able to be one of the lights, simple. People always seem to over-look the Lingering Will which is essentially Terra's will and wields his Keyblade.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,make of this what ever you will but we won't know whose who until the next game, that's for sure.

 

I'm saying IF Sora rescues him. Did you read what I said? Ofcourse Terra can't be a light if nobody saves him...

 

 

No rudeness intended.

 

I just like posting funny clips.

 

Furthermore, why would MX want to force one of the Lights to become a Darkness instead? That means no X-Blade.

 

Master Xehanort needed a vessel so he could survive long enough to see his plan through.Plus the seven lights are chosen naturally meaning if falls the worlds will replace him/her.Either way all the pieces are destined to appear MX has made sure of that.

Master Xehanort needed a vessel so he could survive long enough to see his plan through.Plus the seven lights are chosen naturally meaning if falls the worlds will replace him/her.Either way all the pieces are destined to appear MX has made sure of that.

 

Sounds more to me like his possession of Terra was only temporary (at least, the way you worded it sounds like it).

 

Also, for those who say there's no proof that Terra isn't a Darkness, please know that there's no proof that he IS, either.

Edited by Alan Smithee

 

 

Sounds more to me like his possession of Terra was only temporary (at least, the way you worded it sounds like it).

 

Also, for those who say there's no proof that Terra isn't a Darkness, please know that there's no proof that he IS, either.

 

How can you sit there and say that when he has been commanding Terra's body for the entire series. Master Xehanort straight up said that Terra became one of his vessels. How is that not proof.

Edited by devereauxr

No rudeness intended.

 

I just like posting clips.

 

 

 

It's true that Eraqus has zero experience controlling Darkness, but he does have loads of experience controlling Light, which is commonly used to repel Darkness.

 

MX only said, "another on your list belongs to me now." He never gave a name.

 

Furthermore, MX forcing one of the Lights to instead become a Darkness means no X-Blade (which requires 7 vs. 13; 6 vs. 13 won't do the job).

 

But see ..Aqua doesnt belong to him . Ven doesnt belong to him . Who else does that leave ? Terra . Also, MX also said lights are chosen naturally meaning if one is gone / dead/ destroyed / or a darkness another will be chosen .Thats why MX said one of TAV( guardians of light) belonged to him now ( Terra) . Just like he intended to also use Sora as a darkness . If he brings them to the darknesses the light will naturally choose other guardians . MX didnt even know Lea could wield one :P Mickey didnt even know bc Lea couldnt summon one yet . The ceremony doesnt even guarantee you a keyblade . It still has to choose you hence why even Yen Sid stood up in shock when Lea finally summoned it .

But see ..Aqua doesnt belong to him . Ven doesnt belong to him . Who else does that leave ? Terra . Also, MX also said lights are chosen naturally meaning if one is gone / dead/ destroyed / or a darkness another will be chosen .Thats why MX said one of TAV( guardians of light) belonged to him now ( Terra) . Just like he intended to also use Sora as a darkness . If he brings them to the darknesses the light will naturally choose other guardians . MX didnt even know Lea could wield one :P Mickey didnt even know bc Lea couldnt summon one yet . The ceremony doesnt even guarantee you a keyblade . It still has to choose you hence why even Yen Sid stood up in shock when Lea finally summoned it .

 

MX's exact words were, "another on your list belongs to me now." That's.... kind of vague.

 

Also, nobody knows who the "seventh" that Mickey mentioned is.

Edited by Alan Smithee

MX's exact words were "another on your list belongs to me now." That's.... kind of vague.

 

Also, nobody knows who the "seventh" that Mickey mentioned is.

 

Go look at the title of the secret ending with Kairi :P Also as Mickey was listing TAV MX pointed out one of THOSE were his . So if it isnt ven or aqua that only leaves terra.

 

 

MX's exact words were, "another on your list belongs to me now." That's.... kind of vague.

 

Also, nobody knows who the "seventh" that Mickey mentioned is.

 

Then me clarify for you he also said. He also said specifically. The boy who failed to become the key. The foolish girl who was lost to darkness. And the boy who became my vessel.

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