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Is Xemnas Xehanort's nobody, or Terranort's nobody?

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We know that its technically the same thing-but there are big differences between Xehanort and Terranort. and based on what happened on kh2, i'm beginning to think that he's more of Terranort

 

Xemnas has the memories of when he was an apprentice of ansem the wise, yet he also seems to be familiar with aqua probably because terra's memories come from  part of terranort. but one thing contradicts taht he was terranort's nobody.

 

think back to when the original master xehanort put his keyblade in his heart to possess terra. His heart and mind took control of terra's body and heart. But since only his heart and mind went into terra, then what happened to Xehanort's original body? that's the big question that gets me thinking: is xemnas terranort's nobody or the original xehanort's.

 

...i'm so sorry if you guys are confused...

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It's technically Xehanort's. Terra was just the extension to make the nobody and heartless.

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i know its technically xehanorts. i said that in the post. but what i want to know was if Xemnas was born directly from terranort or master xehanort. that would reveal the time xemnas came to be. 

 

...and is terranort still alive? i mean in a bodily form.

i know its technically xehanorts. i said that in the post. but what i want to know was if Xemnas was born directly from terranort or master xehanort. that would reveal the time xemnas came to be. 

 

...and is terranort still alive? i mean in a bodily form.

It was during Terranorts time when Xemnas and Ansem were made. 

As for whether Terranort is still around, we won't know until kh3.

He came from Terranort. If he was made from Xehanort when he released his heart to possess Terra, as I believe you're asking he would look more like Xehanort than Terrranort. It can be assumed that it is the heart that gives the Nobody it's form, which is why Namine is female even though the body used to crate her belonged to Sora, a male.

As for what happened to the original Xehanort's body, since the heart entered a new vessel rather than becoming a Heartless, it can be assumed that a Nobody was not created and the body simply vanished to wherever it is Nobodies go if they've been destroyed but their heartless have not. This could also be true for Eraqus.

However, this is all merely conjecture based on circumstantial evidence that could easily be disproven by later entries to the series. If your looking for an irrefutable, concrete, canonical answer, non exists

 

P.S. Now, thanks to your sig, I kind of want to see Lubert.

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I'd always thought Xemnas had a bit of Terranort in him, whether he was technically Xehanort's Heartless or not.  The reason being the Xemnas spoke to Aqua's armor and even considered it a friend, I believe.  If he was fully Master Xehanort, I doubt he would've done this. Also, if you look at his physique, he great resembles Terranort, or at least I thought so.  So yes, I think he's technically a Nobody to Xehanort, but I agree with your theory that Terranot had a lot to do with it.

 

As for whether Terranort exists now...  That's a question I've been asking myself a lot lately.  My initial thought was "no," because Master Xehanort is in full power now.  I also thought it was possible that Terra could've returned, though I suppose we won't this till later.

Where did the Organization’s coat and mark come from?

 

Nomura: Xemnas remembering his human years. 



One year after BbS, Xehanort as well as the five other apprentices toss
 aside their hearts. Then the Nobody Xemnas was born, and the
 Organization which he creates take a lot of things from his memories as
 a human. But as Xemnas had two people whom he came from, Terra and Master
 Xehanort, he takes from both of their memories. The coat used by the Organization was something that Master Xehanort originally wore. The Nobody mark used by the Organization is a similar shape to the mark Terra used. Xemnas gives Organization members names with an X in them. This has something to do with Master Xehanort’s interest in the χ-Blade.

 

He is Apprentice Xehanort's nobody while using Terra and Xehanorts memories.

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He came from Terranort. If he was made from Xehanort when he released his heart to possess Terra, as I believe you're asking he would look more like Xehanort than Terrranort. It can be assumed that it is the heart that gives the Nobody it's form, which is why Namine is female even though the body used to crate her belonged to Sora, a male.

As for what happened to the original Xehanort's body, since the heart entered a new vessel rather than becoming a Heartless, it can be assumed that a Nobody was not created and the body simply vanished to wherever it is Nobodies go if they've been destroyed but their heartless have not. This could also be true for Eraqus.

However, this is all merely conjecture based on circumstantial evidence that could easily be disproven by later entries to the series. If your looking for an irrefutable, concrete, canonical answer, non exists

 

P.S. Now, thanks to your sig, I kind of want to see Lubert.

 

nono. you got this whole nobody thing wrong. despite the ironic name, nobodies come from the shell that's shed when a person loses his or her heart. but in order to make one, one must have darkness in their heart to create a nobody. as well as a heartless. when kairi lost hers, she didnt have any darkness in her heart since she's one of the princesses of heart. when she lost her heart, a part of her body was shed but since she didnt have darkness inside her, she didnt disappear like normal people do. when sora gave her her heart back, sora's darkness mixed with kairi's shell and that created namine. in normal people the heart would be the original darkness, leave a trace of it in the body that would become the nobody and the heart would become a being in itself called heartless. nomura chose pretty ironic and confusing names for them huh? xD 

 

...who's lubert?

Where did the Organization’s coat and mark come from?

 

Nomura: Xemnas remembering his human years. 



One year after BbS, Xehanort as well as the five other apprentices toss
 aside their hearts. Then the Nobody Xemnas was born, and the
 Organization which he creates take a lot of things from his memories as
 a human. But as Xemnas had two people whom he came from, Terra and Master
 Xehanort, he takes from both of their memories. The coat used by the Organization was something that Master Xehanort originally wore. The Nobody mark used by the Organization is a similar shape to the mark Terra used. Xemnas gives Organization members names with an X in them. This has something to do with Master Xehanort’s interest in the χ-Blade.

 

He is Apprentice Xehanort's nobody while using Terra and Xehanorts memories.

 

ohhh! then what happened to the original xehanort's body when master X turned the keyblade on himself in the keyblade graveyard?

nono. you got this whole nobody thing wrong. despite the ironic name, nobodies come from the shell that's shed when a person loses his or her heart. but in order to make one, one must have darkness in their heart to create a nobody. as well as a heartless. when kairi lost hers, she didnt have any darkness in her heart since she's one of the princesses of heart. when she lost her heart, a part of her body was shed but since she didnt have darkness inside her, she didnt disappear like normal people do. when sora gave her her heart back, sora's darkness mixed with kairi's shell and that created namine. in normal people the heart would be the original darkness, leave a trace of it in the body that would become the nobody and the heart would become a being in itself called heartless. nomura chose pretty ironic and confusing names for them huh? xD 

 

...who's lubert?

 

ohhh! then what happened to the original xehanort's body when master X turned the keyblade on himself in the keyblade graveyard?

 

Never stated, but seeing as though he wanted a younger body, he simply discarded it(he didnt become a heartless like Sora, so a nobody wasnt made).

nono. you got this whole nobody thing wrong. despite the ironic name, nobodies come from the shell that's shed when a person loses his or her heart. but in order to make one, one must have darkness in their heart to create a nobody. as well as a heartless. when kairi lost hers, she didnt have any darkness in her heart since she's one of the princesses of heart. when she lost her heart, a part of her body was shed but since she didnt have darkness inside her, she didnt disappear like normal people do. when sora gave her her heart back, sora's darkness mixed with kairi's shell and that created namine. in normal people the heart would be the original darkness, leave a trace of it in the body that would become the nobody and the heart would become a being in itself called heartless. nomura chose pretty ironic and confusing names for them huh? xD 

 

...who's lubert?

 

ohhh! then what happened to the original xehanort's body when master X turned the keyblade on himself in the keyblade graveyard?

What I'm saying is, even though a Nobody is the body a person leaves behind, the heart, despite not being present, influences it's physical appearance.

And it' not really that important but Xehanort used his own Keblade to remove his heart, not the x-Blade.

 

Lubert is what I'm calling the fusion of Lucas and Hilbert. I thought it sounded better than Hilcas,

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What I'm saying is, even though a Nobody is the body a person leaves behind, the heart, despite not being present, influences it's physical appearance.

And it' not really that important but Xehanort used his own Keblade to remove his heart, not the x-Blade.

 

Lubert is what I'm calling the fusion of Lucas and Hilbert. I thought it sounded better than Hilcas,

 

well i guess that's true. the reason namine looks like the way she does is more a mixture of kairi and ventus. blonde hair from ventus, long hair and gender from kairi. why i say kairi and ventus and not kairi and sora...its more since namine's a blonde. meh i dunno why.

 

i'm so sorry you didnt see the fusion Dx its because the pic was kinda long and didnt fit in the margins. the fusion is- NATE! from black2 xD doesnt it make sense? the clothes from lucas/ruby, and the color from hilbert/black.

Never stated, but seeing as though he wanted a younger body, he simply discarded it(he didnt become a heartless like Sora, so a nobody wasnt made).

 

 

actually you dont have to have a heartless to have a nobody. roxas and sora co existed even after sora turned into a heartless adn back. things never just go poof and go away. xehanort's body went somewhere....wait.

 

i kind of get it now. ever since the end of kh3D xehanort somehow got back into the original body he discarded in bbs. i dunno where his body was for the past 12 years, but he reunited it in the events of KH3D when he returned...

I believe him more to be Terranort's nobody. But there could be some possibility the could be Xehanort's.

Just whatever Nomura stirs up.

He's Terranort's Nobody, but he has "Xehanort's consciousness", since the latter is in control of Terra's Nobody.

actually you dont have to have a heartless to have a nobody. roxas and sora co existed even after sora turned into a heartless adn back. things never just go poof and go away. xehanort's body went somewhere....wait.

 

i kind of get it now. ever since the end of kh3D xehanort somehow got back into the original body he discarded in bbs. i dunno where his body was for the past 12 years, but he reunited it in the events of KH3D when he returned...

 

Actually, you do have to have a heartless to have a nobody. When the person that becomes a heartless has special qualities, a nobody(humanoid) is created. Kairi used her princess of heart powers to create a shell for Sora's heartless, hence being a walking heartless in human form like Ansem SoD.

 

We'll find out in KH3.

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