Okay so watch this video

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kOKSGOzVgE&feature=player_embedded

 

Okay so anyway, Is Xemnas talking about Ven awaking? Because it said Axel touched Sora's heart. I don't know that much about birth by sleep, but I think Ven awoke. That would explain the secret movie. For birth by sleep, where he is awake.

Ok, first, The secret movie is before Ven's coma. Xemnas is actually talking about Axel, the memories of his past, which I suppose includes Ven as well. Do not misread me, I am not bashing your theory, just stating the facts and what is pretty obvious. Ven shall remain in a coma until Sora returns his heart back to him. Most likely in one of the three unconfirmed games.

i guess he was cuz ven met lea and isa and only isa knew exactly wat was going on so he probably was refering to ven

 

Okay so anyway, Is Xemnas talking about Ven awaking? Because it said Axel touched Sora's heart. I don't know that much about birth by sleep, but I think Ven awoke. That would explain the secret movie. For birth by sleep, where he is awake.

 

Well, its a good theory but, remember that Yen Sid told aqua that Ven will only wake when his heart was returned to him. Maybe Xemnas was refering to Roxas, since Sora, to have his true power, had to become one with Roxas.

It could be one of these two I dunno...

but I think Ven awoke. That would explain the secret movie. For birth by sleep, where he is awake.

 

That scene is symbolic, only person who actually says Soras name is Aqua... and only Aqua...

But ven should be awake!!! in kh1 sora used the keyblade to return kairis heart which freed vens heart? O.o....

yes. But do not lose Hope, remember what Master eraqus '' said'' ?

Aqua, You will be the only one capable of resolving the puzzle , that means , just saving aqua is enough , she is the only person who khowns the chamber of Wakeing , with her helping Sora , they can find him.

But if the scene is really real, Xemnas was talking with Aqua

Idk about Ven waking up, but he knows about the whole Birth by Sleep concept. But I see what you are trying to say.

Sleep= Weakness

Birth= Awake

Ok, first, The secret movie is before Ven's coma. Xemnas is actually talking about Axel, the memories of his past, which I suppose includes Ven as well. Do not misread me, I am not bashing your theory, just stating the facts and what is pretty obvious. Ven shall remain in a coma until Sora returns his heart back to him. Most likely in one of the three unconfirmed games.

 

The part of the secret movie where they all say sora didnt really happen. its merely symbolic. so it wasnt before vens coma.

 

i totally agree with the rest though.

Xemnas was talking about Roxas awaking. When Axel died it stired Roxas from his rest. That's why, when Sora goes to The World That Never Was, Roxas starts a mental battle with him. It has nothing to do with Ven, seeing as Xemnas doesn't know Sora and Ven's hearts joined. I'm not sure anyone knows at all. Not even poor Sora remembers.

But ven should be awake!!! in kh1 sora used the keyblade to return kairis heart which freed vens heart? O.o....

 

Not really:

 

 

Ven's heart is sleeping Inside Sora's. So when Sora's heart returned Ven's heart, who was inside of it, also returned

 

It seems to me that what Xemnas is saying is "Axel touched Sora