Warning: the post below is almost a rant at points.KH Chi has implemented a new reward system. Where instead of getting rewarded with specific cards or items at specific lux ammounts, you now get mog points at specific lux ammounts. These mog points can be used to buy cards, promotional outfits, potions, ethers, lots of stuff. (well not all that much stuff yet.)I really like this idea, but I don't like its implementation.For earning 3 million lux you got:10 potions10 ethers3 mega potions3 mega ethers2 AP upsan SR+ assist carda ray ticket2 kupo fruitsmoogle card (n) x10Moogle card ® x10some obscene ammount of munnyand more

Now for earning 3 million lux you get a total of 100 mog pointsHow much can you get with that? You can't even get 10 potions, 10 ethers and an AP up for that much. You can't even buy ray tickets or kupo fruit in the shop. So not only don't get the shear quantity of rewards as before, you don't even have access to all the same rewards. I would even be fine if the mog points given could provide you with just HALF as much as before, but nope, you don't get that much.

 

Though there are 3 cards you can only get from events in the shop. The SR Halloweentown Sora, Donald, and Goofy.costs 150 mog points, the R+ wisdom form sora that was for some old quests costs 50 mog points, and the SR+ MIckey which showed up for some events costs 600 mog points.And you can even get upto 4 of each in theory! But can you really? Maybe for the SR and R+ cards, but currently it is impossible to get enough to get 4 SR+ Mickeys in the time 3 weeks left before you can't buy him anymore. That is including the mog points from the lux rankings.If you get the highest rank in both the individual and team rankings that give you an extra 350 a week. Or 1050 by the end of the month. Now add on the 300 you got from getting 3mil lux each week, and you now notice you have 1350 mog points. 4 SR+ Mickey's cost 2400 mog points. So, obviously it should be possible to get the 4 in stock within the time period, yet you need 1050 more mog points. Limited missions do exist for mog points which provides 350 mog points for a total of 3520AP which is only a little over a week's worth of perfectly spent AP. So, there is hope that someone might be able to buy all 4 if they add two more limited mission sets. And a total of 3 more missions sets would let them get at least something else from the mog shop. But it just seems a bit silly to make it almost impossible to get all of one reward type when you are offering other rewards as well.Oh well, I think the system is a good idea, I am just kind of upset that you can't get even half as much stuff per week as before. 

I am sure there will be more missions after the maintenance in 2 days. Did you noticed the shadows behind the Wizard-heartless banner? They look like pumpkins, could be some new kind of heartless =)Edit: Yeah, I hate the new reward system  :angry: I always tried to reach 3 million Lux for the SR+. Now I need 2 weeks for Yen Sid SR and 4 or 5 weeks to get a SR+ . It's not worth anymore for me to collect 3 million LX.

Edited October 15, 201312 yr by Pingutino

Initially I thought it was unfair but actually seeing it myself when I played the game, I think it's more beneficial for those who never earn really high amounts of lux, they can save up and still get stuff instead of having to cram in a week to be awarded anything.  For other people who were achieving those high amounts I can see why it's annoying, but I only really get to play KHChi, once/twice a week, if at all.  

Initially I thought it was unfair but actually seeing it myself when I played the game, I think it's more beneficial for those who never earn really high amounts of lux, they can save up and still get stuff instead of having to cram in a week to be awarded anything.  For other people who were achieving those high amounts I can see why it's annoying, but I only really get to play KHChi, once/twice a week, if at all.  

Yeah, lets see for a new player playing tons, they might be able to get 100k lux for the first week. That grants 30 mog points, and getting last place in individual and teamed rankings will give you 10 mog points. So you get at least 10 mog points each week you are playing even if you don't hit any lux markers. And those 40 points does let someone get an R+ attack card, which is immensely useful if you don't already have all R+ or better.You probably can get at most 100-200k lux for your playing once or twice a week. Though lets see what you can get for 500k. That gives you 50 mog points from getting x amount of lux, and probably an extra 10 more from the rankings. Or 60 mog points a week. So that would mean without being able to kill the event heartless you could get enough for the promo SR card by the end of your third week. Which again could help you out if you don't already have all SR cards in your attack deck.And in a way this will be useful in the long run for those who can achieve 3mil a week, since we can just save up and hope they eventually put an item we truly want there. But it still hurts with how much lower the rewards are. A conservative guess from current rates, getting only the rewards I cared even slightly about in the old list, around 590 mog points is what the old list was worth. And the new list is worth 100 mog points, though you also get mog points from the rankings in addition to the old rewards. Taking that into account 450 mog points (excluding limited missions) is the most anyone can get and only upto 3 people can get that much. That's part of my problem. Is that even the people achieving 1st-3rd place are getting less out of it than someone placing in the thousands used to get. (but this is what you were already seeing) 

 

I am sure there will be more missions after the maintenance in 2 days. Did you noticed the shadows behind the Wizard-heartless banner? They look like pumpkins, could be some new kind of heartless =)Edit: Yeah, I hate the new reward system  :angry: I always tried to reach 3 million Lux for the SR+. Now I need 2 weeks for Yen Sid SR and 4 or 5 weeks to get a SR+ . It's not worth anymore for me to collect 3 million LX.

Yeah, I did notice the shadows and those are the only things that will make it barely possible to get all of of the SR+ card. (assuming all the rates stay the same)I agree and I honestly think 500k or 1 mil lux are some of the last milestones "worth" striving for. At 1 mil you have 65 mog points, at 3 mil you have a total of 100 mog points. So that means for earning 2 mil more lux (200% more) you get 53% more mog points. So the work to get them all vs the work to get to 1 mil is around twice as much for half the reward! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 

Yeah, lets see for a new player playing tons, they might be able to get 100k lux for the first week. That grants 30 mog points, and getting last place in individual and teamed rankings will give you 10 mog points. So you get at least 10 mog points each week you are playing even if you don't hit any lux markers. And those 40 points does let someone get an R+ attack card, which is immensely useful if you don't already have all R+ or better.You probably can get at most 100-200k lux for your playing once or twice a week. Though lets see what you can get for 500k. That gives you 50 mog points from getting x amount of lux, and probably an extra 10 more from the rankings. Or 60 mog points a week. So that would mean without being able to kill the event heartless you could get enough for the promo SR card by the end of your third week. Which again could help you out if you don't already have all SR cards in your attack deck.And in a way this will be useful in the long run for those who can achieve 3mil a week, since we can just save up and hope they eventually put an item we truly want there. But it still hurts with how much lower the rewards are. A conservative guess from current rates, getting only the rewards I cared even slightly about in the old list, around 590 mog points is what the old list was worth. And the new list is worth 100 mog points, though you also get mog points from the rankings in addition to the old rewards. Taking that into account 450 mog points (excluding limited missions) is the most anyone can get and only upto 3 people can get that much. That's part of my problem. Is that even the people achieving 1st-3rd place are getting less out of it than someone placing in the thousands used to get. (but this is what you were already seeing) 

 

Yeah, I did notice the shadows and those are the only things that will make it barely possible to get all of of the SR+ card. (assuming all the rates stay the same)I agree and I honestly think 500k or 1 mil lux are some of the last milestones "worth" striving for. At 1 mil you have 65 mog points, at 3 mil you have a total of 100 mog points. So that means for earning 2 mil more lux (200% more) you get 53% more mog points. So the work to get them all vs the work to get to 1 mil is around twice as much for half the reward! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 

 

Only time I've got that about of lux in the hour I played was when there was a CP event, it was Lux UP time and I had over 100 elixirs to keep attacking the Boss Raids.  

 

Complain about it on the SE site they host it on.  People's opinions are taken into consideration and it is a continuous cycle of fine tuning and development 

Only time I've got that about of lux in the hour I played was when there was a CP event, it was Lux UP time and I had over 100 elixirs to keep attacking the Boss Raids.  

 

Complain about it on the SE site they host it on.  People's opinions are taken into consideration and it is a continuous cycle of fine tuning and development 

I know I wasn't meaning to rant at you or anyone here. I was just wanting to state what I thought of it out there almost as if that would help. I do know that on the Japanese message boards there currently is a petition like thing against it. But I am a bit hesitant interacting there since I would have to google translate anything I wanted to say.

I know I wasn't meaning to rant at you or anyone here. I was just wanting to state what I thought of it out there almost as if that would help. I do know that on the Japanese message boards there currently is a petition like thing against it. But I am a bit hesitant interacting there since I would have to google translate anything I wanted to say.

 

You just write at the start of anything you want to say that you're using Google Translate, I can guarantee a lot of the players have used it to try and say things in English

You just write at the start of anything you want to say that you're using Google Translate, I can guarantee a lot of the players have used it to try and say things in English

Maybe I shall try. I don't know. Either way I am kind of stuck playing the game since someone from the team I am in basically implied that I would be greatly missed. They were actually scared that I decided to leave forever without saying anything when I didn't play for like 3-4 days. 0_0  Those Japanese that are trying to practice their English on me! Anyways I think they are nice people. (and yes if I truly wanted to quit, I wouldn't let them stop me.)

Maybe I shall try. I don't know. Either way I am kind of stuck playing the game since someone from the team I am in basically implied that I would be greatly missed. They were actually scared that I decided to leave forever without saying anything when I didn't play for like 3-4 days. 0_0  Those Japanese that are trying to practice their English on me! Anyways I think they are nice people. (and yes if I truly wanted to quit, I wouldn't let them stop me.)

 

I only talk to my group when I need clarifying on something, a lot of them are Japanese and only speak Japanese, in fact I think 3 of my full group speak english as well  Would you actually quit or just take time out?  Like I've gone near 2 weeks without checking on it, but my leader never boots me so it's grand

I only talk to my group when I need clarifying on something, a lot of them are Japanese and only speak Japanese, in fact I think 3 of my full group speak english as well  Would you actually quit or just take time out?  Like I've gone near 2 weeks without checking on it, but my leader never boots me so it's grand

I believe last patch the devs implimented something so that if you don't log in for a whole week you are auto-kicked from your team. I would have to search through the news to confirm that they actually implemented this or not. (if it is, this is just a kind warning, log on for at least a couple miniutes a week if possible.)Edit: Anyways my team already had a kick if you aren't gaining even 1 lux in the entire week, though you could leave for a week or longer if you were able to tell someone why and basically that you can't be on. So, if the devs really did that, it is just annoying. D: (except for the "fairness" of just creating tons of teams with inactive players.)"＜チーム結成条件について＞毎週日曜日の13:59時点で1週間以上ログインしていないパーティーメンバーについては翌週（毎週月曜日 00:00以降）は別チームとなるよう調整しました。例：10/21（月）からのチーム結成条件は、10/20(日）13:59の時点で1週間以上ログインしていない方が除外されて結成されます。※上記に該当するメンバーが別チームとなってからログインした場合は翌週からまた同チームに復帰することが可能です。また、チームの結成は前週の獲得LUXの近いパーティーが集まって結成されます。"http://sqex-bridge.jp/guest/information/3078google translate:"<About the team formation conditions>You are not logged more than a week at the time of 13:59 every SundayNext week (after 00:00 every Monday) for the party membersHas been adjusted to be a different team.Example: team formation conditions from the 10/21 (month) is, at the time of 10/20 (Sun) 13:59It is formed If you have not logged in for a week or more are excluded.※ I have logged in members corresponding to the above-mentioned has gone with another teamIt is possible to return to the team also from next week if.In addition, the formation of the team will be formed party close LUX acquisition of the previous week together."It seems a bit confusing, and I am too lazy right now to sort it out. But that's where the change I was talking about would be.Anyways, with the new quests and the giving of 10 mog points each day, I think the mog points are a bit better. Than they were just a little bit earlier.P.S. I only call them mog points because I heard it stated that way before. though google translate calls it "Mogumedaru". 

Edited October 19, 201312 yr by Tigerruss