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Ahem, anyways, in case this has to stand on its own...

 

Long story short: There's a new DragonBall Z movie coming out called "Resurrection 'F', also known as "Fukkatsu no 'F'" and "Revival of 'F'", Frieza is being resurrected, likely getting a power up, Goku and Vegeta have new outfits, Lord Beerus and Whis are back, blah blah blah blah blah, you get the gist.

 

A couple of (translated) scans from Saikyou Jump have come out, revealing a few new bits of info on the movie, including the origin of Frieza's newly introduced henchmen, Sorbet and Tagoma, as well as information on Goku, Gohan, Piccolo and more!

 

http://www.shonengamez.com/2014/12/06/dragon-ball-z-revival-f-scans-reveal-two-mystery-characters-survivors-friezas-army/

Edited April 21, 201510 yr by Firaga Sensei
sorry, but page stretch is annoying as heck and we don't normally allow it

I'm just messing with you. Get a grip

 

Onto Vegeta: BoG's saying he has a righteous heart doesn't mean squat. Vegeta denies it and given the way his character has progressed throughout the series, there's more evidence to the contrary. That's like saying "oh, Shenron can grant ten wishes now" and letting the fact alone that somebody said that make it true when there are obvious counters and facts against it.

Ah, sorry, it's just that a lot of DBZ fans have their heads up their asses about canonBut in this case, there is actual physical evidence that he does have a righteous heart, despite denying it, in the form of Goku's God Mode. If even one of the six Saiyans involved didn't have a righteous heart, it woudl have failed. Vegita's just too proud to admit he's a good guy now.Like you said: Actions speak louder than words, so by that logic the action of Goku going Super Saiyan God overrules Vegita's word that he doesn't have a righteous heart.

Edited April 12, 201510 yr by Isamu_Kuno

But in this case, there is actual physical evidence that he does have a righteous heart, despite denying it, in the form of Goku's God Mode. If even one of the six Saiyans involved didn't have a righteous heart, it woudl have failed. Vegita's just too proud to admit he's a good guy now.

 

Physical evidence my left testicle. They just SAID he has a good heart when in actuality, he has more evil deeds under his belt that actual good will.

 

It's not really Vegeta's fault. It's just hard to actual put my finger on it when a) again, more evil then good and b) He's never gone outright and said stuff like "In the past, I was such a fool" or "I have regrets for my past actions" or anything like that. That's why I'd like the whole catharis mumbo jumbo I've talked about for the umpteeth time to happen in the movie.

Physical evidence my left testicle. They just SAID he has a good heart when in actuality, he has more evil deeds under his belt that actual good will.

 

It's not really Vegeta's fault. It's just hard to actual put my finger on it when a) again, more evil then good and b) He's never gone outright and said stuff like "In the past, I was such a fool" or "I have regrets for my past actions" or anything like that. That's why I'd like the whole catharis mumbo jumbo I've talked about for the umpteeth time to happen in the movie.

No, they showed he had a good heart because Goku's transformation took.

No, they showed he had a good heart because Goku's transformation took.

 

Again, bullcrap. They didn't show anything. They had Vegeta do the ritual because he has a good heart because the plot said so.

 

There is barely any representation of Vegeta's good side other than his deeds in the Buu Saga and his routine in BoG. If he really does have a good heart and is able to acheive a level of godly power based on that alone, that needs to be fixed.

Edited April 12, 201510 yr by Firaga Sensei

Again, bullcrap. They didn't show anything. They had Vegeta do the ritual because he has a good heart because the plot said so.

 

There is barely any representation of Vegeta's good side other than his deeds in the Buu Saga and his routine in BoG. If he really does have a good heart and is able to acheive a level of godly power based on that alone, that needs to be fixed.

But again wither or not he shows remorse if he didn't have a good heart, it wouldn't have worked. Of course that could have been circumvented if they had had both Videl and Bulma being pregnant at the time. If that had been the case, Bulla could have taken her fathers place.Moving on, it's really too bad Gogeta isn't canon. True Super Saiyan God Gogeta would have been epic.Still, the Fucion Dance is canon so maybe someday...?

Edited April 12, 201510 yr by Isamu_Kuno

But again wither or not he shows remorse if he didn't have a good heart, it wouldn't have worked. Of course that could have been circumvented bif they had had both Videl and Bulma being pregnant at the time. If that had been the case, Bulla could have taken her fathers place.Moving on, it's really too bad Gogeta isn't canon. True Super Saiyan God Gogeta would have been epic.Still, the Fucion Dance is canon so maybe someday...?

 

This entire ordeal would be so much easier to grasp if Vegeta actually showed his good side more. Or at least gave us an indication of it. Frieza coming back, aka a remnant of his former self, would be a great trigger for him to do just that, though.

 

Eh, I don't know. It's too soon to really talk about Fusion. We have stuff like the Twelve Universes still in play.

This entire ordeal would be so much easier to grasp if Vegeta actually showed his good side more. Or at least gave us an indication of it. Frieza coming back, aka a remnant of his former self, would be a great trigger for him to do just that, though.

 

Eh, I don't know. It's too soon to really talk about Fusion. We have stuff like the Twelve Universes still in play.

Even if Vegita had his catharsis, voiced his regret over his past actions, it woudl still just be words, which according to you, mean nothing.I have theory of the twelve universes, it is not popular. I was thinking, what if the Twelve Universes is a way to make everything canon? A universe where GT is canon, a Universe where the filler episodes are canon, A universe where the movies are canon, A universe where the games are canon, a universe where only Kai (and Bog/RoF) is canon, the universe of Trunks timeline, etc.It pissed some people off.

Edited April 12, 201510 yr by Isamu_Kuno

Even if Vegita had his catharsis, voiced his regret over his past actions, it woudl still just be words, which according to you, mean nothing.

 

I have theory of the twelve universes, it is not popular. I was thinking, what if the Twelve Universes is a way to make everything canon? A universe where GT is canon, a Universe where the filler episodes are canon, A universe where the movies are canon, A universe where the games are canon, a universe where only Kai (and Bog/RoF) is canon, the universe of Trunks timeline, etc.

 

It pissed some people off.

 

Words can mean something, as long as it has something to back it up. The statement of Vegeta having a good heart in BoG doesn't have that because the state of his character being more aligned with evil than good based on his actions in the series goes against it, making it more of just a needed plot point than an actual representation of his current character and personality.

 

If he has catharsis in the movie, he would go back and reinstate factual evidence of his wrong deeds i.e. killing thousands of innocent lives and screwing over his so-called friends and family, and bouncing off the actual indications that he is good, and proving it in a way that's not contrived or arbitrary, everything would come together quite nicely.

 

Also, now, Mr. Toriyama is too creative and unpredictable to do something like that.

Words can mean something, as long as it has something to back it up. The statement of Vegeta having a good heart in BoG doesn't have that because the state of his character being more aligned with evil than good based on his actions in the series goes against it, making it more of just a needed plot point than an actual representation of his current character and personality.

 

If he has catharsis in the movie, he would go back and reinstate factual evidence of his wrong deeds i.e. killing thousands of innocent lives and screwing over his so-called friends and family, and bouncing off the actual indications that he is good, and proving it in a way that's not contrived or arbitrary, everything would come together quite nicely.

 

Also, now, Mr. Toriyama is too creative and unpredictable to do something like that.

My other theory is that he was planning a new Dragon Ball anime focusing on Goku traveling these Universes in search of stronger opponents.

My other theory is that he was planning a new Dragon Ball anime focusing on Goku traveling these Universes in search of stronger opponents.

 

That seems a little more realistic, but I doubt its even in the works.

 

After 'F', there will probably be more movies until he can focus on bigger projects.

 

A new short trailer has been released showing off Goku's new form.

I wish FUNimation had shown the sub on their channel instead of limiting it to one theater in LA. I mean, they already brought it to the US before the Japanese premier so why not?

I wish FUNimation had shown the sub on their channel instead of limiting it to one theater in LA. I mean, they already brought it to the US before the Japanese premier so why not?

 

Because its a DragonBall Z movie meaning they can't just shill it out like that.

 

That's like selling imported furniture from France on Ebay.

Because its a DragonBall Z movie meaning they can't just shill it out like that.

 

That's like selling imported furniture from France on Ebay.

Okay, then put it on your website under the members only section, or more theaters! Just do something to make it available to more than 60 people! One theater is ridiculous. I mean, I know it's getting dubbed this summer, but by then everyone will already know everything, hell, these days everyone knows everything weeks before the initial release!

Edited April 14, 201510 yr by Isamu_Kuno

Okay, then put it on your website under the members only section, or more theaters! Just do something to make it available to more than 60 people! One theater is ridiculous. I mean, I know it's getting dubbed this summer, but by then everyone will already know everything, hell, these days everyone knows everything weeks before the initial release!

 

Eh, TOEI probably wouldn't let 'em.

 

Bunch of weenies.

Eh, TOEI probably wouldn't let 'em.

 

Bunch of weenies.

Yet they let them show the sub in the first place -_-

Jackasses.

Edited April 14, 201510 yr by Isamu_Kuno

Yet they let them show the sub in the first place -_-

Jackasses.

 

Hey, it'd still kind of cheapen the experience.

 

I mean, like I said, this is DragonBall Z, and anime films in general just don't come out before they air in Japan. Its a premium. 

Hey, it'd still kind of cheapen the experience.

 

I mean, like I said, this is DragonBall Z, and anime films in general just don't come out before they air in Japan. Its a premium. 

Then they really shouldn't have done it this time either. They didn't do it for BoG, the rest of the world had to wait for the dub, and at least that one was shown in a decent number of theaters. I was lucky then but this time I'll probably have to end up waiting for the Blu-Ray release.

I'm just gonna torrent it.

 

Don't tell the cops though.

So apparently, the new blue haired form in the movie is not called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan... in fact, it was not given a specific name in the movie at all.

 

I found this out from Rhymestyle, a DragonBall YouTuber who was lucky enough to see the movie at the LA screening. He talks about the form in the video below, but it does contain small spoilers for the movie, so if you want to watch, then you've been warned.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, yeah, the form has no name. Let me remind everybody that the whole "SSJGSSJ" thing only came out because of the translation of that one scan for the movie. Even in that, it wasn't given a name. It was just referred to as "Super Saiyan God with the power of a Super Saiyan".

 

So for now, the name can be anything that you want it to be.

So apparently, the new blue haired form in the movie is not called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan... in fact, it was not given a specific name in the movie at all.

 

I found this out from Rhymestyle, a DragonBall YouTuber who was lucky enough to see the movie at the LA screening. He talks about the form in the video below, but it does contain small spoilers for the movie, so if you want to watch, then you've been warned.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, yeah, the form has no name. Let me remind everybody that the whole "SSJGSSJ" thing only came out because of the translation of that one scan for the movie. Even in that, it wasn't given a name. It was just referred to as "Super Saiyan God with the power of a Super Saiyan".

 

So for now, the name can be anything that you want it to be.

Good, you know what would have been even better? Calling the red one Saiyan God and this one Super Saiyan GodBut True Super Saiyan got it is, at least for now. I knew Toriyama could do better

Good, you know what would have been even better? Calling the red one Saiyan God and this one Super Saiyan GodBut True Super Saiyan got it is, at least for now. I knew Toriyama could do better

 

Let's not backtrack now and just appreciate that "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" isn't a real thing.

Let's not backtrack now and just appreciate that "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" isn't a real thing.

Yeah, that's good. The official name is bound to be revealed soon, what with the form being in Dragon Ball Heroes, Extreme Budoten and probably (hopefully) Xenoverse DLC pack 3.

Edited April 14, 201510 yr by Isamu_Kuno

That name was a bit weird from the get go

 

But still, Blue Goku looks amazing

New form looks cool and all, but now that vegeta will finally catch up to goku I want a true god fusion between the two of them. Super saiyan God vegito will just be...ahhhhh I can't even imagine how powerful he will be, we're probably talking destroy the whole universe kamehameha. I hope they avoid fusion dance though and use the potara earrings instead, or come up with some bullshit new type of potara fusion where they aren't permenantly stuck together, but can do it at will.

 

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