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The universe of kingdom hearts has often confused me and when ever we are given information (especially by Nomura) we might not fully understand the explanation (this or we accept a possible flaw). In the case of Nomura's explanation of the realms, in which he says they are like the light and dark realms are like planes of existence with the realm of between like stairs, things to be start to become inconsistent. (full interview:http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/kingdomheartsiifinalmix/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-34866889&pid=935702&page=0)

 

If this is interpreted in a 3d view you get something that contrasts the universe in many ways. First of all, there are things like Riku being in the realm of light right next to Sora, but still belonging to the dark realm. Second, the worlds in the realm of light are dispersed in a 3d manner so how could the realm of light which is explained in a 2d manner be 3d. Getting to the realm of darkness by gummi-ship isn't a matter of "Lets go North to the realm of darkness" it is more like through the realm of between where the crossroads are to the dark margin to the rod or if it is possible use of a dark corridor. (the cross roads will be elaborated on in another thread)

 

The answer is this: on top of the three dimensions of space there are the extra two of time and the dimension in which light and darkness are accessed.

 

If any of you have watched that show on the science channel called the universe then you might have seen their representation of parallel universes. They represented them as a flat (or not flat) planes much like Nomura's description, because you can't represent two three dimensional universes expanding in all dimensions infinitely without running into each other when we only have three dimensions ourselves. What I am saying is to look at darkness/light and all levels between and beyond as a single dimension.

 

Go to 3 min on this video to see a representation of the parallel universe:

 

Much like how we call it space-time due to time being unique in kh we would call it space-time-darkness/light. This extra dimension allows you to look at the realms as planes of existence without contradicting the universe

 

Crazier stuff:

Also the door to darkness is a huge worm hole caused by the existence of one kingdom hearts in multiple different areas throughout different dimensions (Height, dept, width, and levels of darkness and light and hopefully not time because that would mean time travel )

Maybe more time passes in the dark realm because kh is in there.

 

THE FOURTH DIMENSION's shadow (and time):

 

Hopefully that made some sense!

 

The one thing that I am stumped on is the strange dimension (and) corridor. All I know is the description from this:http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Xehanort_Reports (#3) and the few videos where they use it. Could the strange dimension be a what the dark/light dimension actually is, something similar, or something different all together? An answer from a person who played through bbs would be most appreciated.

 

This theory may have little plot relevance but it is fair enough to say that even the craziest stuff may not be too far off. Even if this theory wasn't true it could be looked at as a way to think of the kh universe without the "lets go north to the darkness" plot hole. Please no flaming.

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Holy ****-****! So this is what happens when you introduce science into KH :O

 

So, originally after reading the first paragraph or so, I went and prepared a diagram for the whole Realms of Light, Inbetween, and Darkness bit based on the fairy tale. Then I read the rest and that ended up being a waste of time since it was totally irrelevant lol.

holy crap =O that was long! very impressive! I never knew that.

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Wow. I was expecting to get flamed for this so badly : ) !

 

Also just asking this again, are strange dimension corridors like corridors of darkness except light?

Hmm, I would say something calculating and smart as usual from your theories, but I had just forgotten everything I read. Except for the part of Riku being born in the Light realm and belonging to the dark realm, which would be strange since he has his own darkness with the added on darkness of Xehanort's heartless. He does not belong to such, it is just an added on layer. As he has his own darkness, those born into the realm of darkness have their own light, with possibly some having an added light onto their layer of light. Making things balanced between citizens of each realm. The doorway leading to each realm leads to a specific area in the realm of darkness which is a sort of beached shoreline. So, I am wondering why Xehanort's heartless was noticing the door as Kingdom Hearts, and not the Kingdom Hearts in the Realm of Darkness. Also, the Door to Darkness (KH1's KH) is a physical mass of matter, while they say the Door to Light is "In their hearts". Which is some sort of childish emotion I cannot comprehend. I would also go on and on about the In between world of Nobodies and Heartless but I have other matters to attend to.

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The reason I say Riku belonged to the dark realm was because when Riku tried to open a dark corridor and failed, Mickey said, "You don't belong in the realm of darkness anymore Riku." and so it makes sense that he did belong to the dark realm. If it was just Xehanort then he was sort of holding Riku in there - the point is that the extra dimension allows this happen so it at this point it doesn't matter who is right now.

 

As far as the door to darkness, it IS kingdom hearts. It was an artificial kingdom hearts made out of the worlds taken by the heartless (EoTW). When it was sealed and disappeared End of The World disappeared also and the worlds all the worlds were returned to their original state, meaning before the heartless found the heart of that world.

 

This has never been explained but I think it might be because of this:The door to darkness has to be physical due to kingdom hearts being in one complete realm of darkness and the realm of light is in the heart because in the realm of light the worlds are scattered. And the True light still sleeps deep within the darkness thing.

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