i didnt know where to put this so ill put it in bbs sorry if in wrong spot anyways you know how theres two kingdom keys in the x-blade well we know one belongs to sora so who does the other one belong to it cant be roxas because he wasnt meant to exist then who else could it be anyone know

 

 

sorry if thread like this

The 2 keyblades represent 2 hearts of complete light, and complete darkness combined, da light is ven, and da dark is vanitas

oh really i was thinking it had something to do with sora

oh really i was thinking it had something to do with sora

 

alot of people i no thought dat but sora wasnt a keyblade master until 14? so i ly doubt the x-blade had any connection with sora

oh that makes sense

 

oh really i was thinking it had something to do with sora

 

alot of people i no thought dat but sora wasnt a keyblade master until 14? so i ly doubt the x-blade had any connection with sora

 

Sora's not a master at all. Blame that one on the localization. "Keyblade Hero" is the literal translation, but it's just so very awkward when you say it in English, so they had to change it.

 

As for the X-blade, when asked if we'll be seeing the X-blade again at some point, he replies that "maybe we've already seen it" >.>

 

 

oh really i was thinking it had something to do with sora

 

alot of people i no thought dat but sora wasnt a keyblade master until 14? so i ly doubt the x-blade had any connection with sora

 

Sora's not a master at all. Blame that one on the localization. "Keyblade Hero" is the literal translation, but it's just so very awkward when you say it in English, so they had to change it.

 

As for the X-blade, when asked if we'll be seeing the X-blade again at some point, he replies that "maybe we've already seen it" >.>

 

who says that and when does that happen

I think it just stands for the 2 pure hearts that created the X-Blade

 

 

 

oh really i was thinking it had something to do with sora

 

alot of people i no thought dat but sora wasnt a keyblade master until 14? so i ly doubt the x-blade had any connection with sora

 

Sora's not a master at all. Blame that one on the localization. "Keyblade Hero" is the literal translation, but it's just so very awkward when you say it in English, so they had to change it.

 

As for the X-blade, when asked if we'll be seeing the X-blade again at some point, he replies that "maybe we've already seen it" >.>

 

who says that and when does that happen

 

Nomura. Interview. I should've been more specific. Sorry about that.

oh it ok but what does he mean weve already seen it like when was the other time

What interview is this exactly because I don't remember him saying that and this really piques my curiosity.

I can try finding it. But it's going to take a while since he's had a ton of interviews since the game's JPN release.

I posted a theory on Heartstation.org here: http://heartstation.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=81 about how TAV picking up those three keyblades in sunset horizons had meaning that connected to the x-blade. These three keyblades are presented by Sora, Riku, and Micky to the dtd at the end of kh2 so could that have been what Nomura was talking about?

I posted a theory on Heartstation.org here: http://heartstation.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=81 about how TAV picking up those three keyblades in sunset horizons had meaning that connected to the x-blade. These three keyblades are presented by Sora, Riku, and Micky to the dtd at the end of kh2 so could that have been what Nomura was talking about?

 

Theory? -goes off to read-

 

...you seem to be making a pretty big deal about a concept video... but anyways, I'm going to post my reply to your theory here, if you don't mind.

 

Before I go any farther I want to say that I know that the three keyblades were to imply a connection between SRK and VAT, as well as to indicate which realm each would end up in, but evidence hints at a deeper meaning that wasn't explored in this game.

Already established that Kairi and Aqua aren't connected. Yes, you can argue that they are (the Rite of Succession, the magic spell), but they're not connected in the same way Ven is to Sora and Terra is to Riku, which is a literal heart-to-heart connection.

 

I heard that this keyblade was meant for him because he was the only one that could physically hit the unversed.

Everyone can physically hit the Unversed. It could be that only he could wield Light Seeker because Mickey shares a closer connection with Ven than Aqua and Terra. Or the bit because of the X-blade (don't ask about the interview because I still haven't found it yet D:)

 

What if the x-blade split into these three keyblades? For example Sora gains his part of the x-blade in the realm of light, for Riku in the between, and for the king in the realm of darkness.

KK and KKD I can understand, since the X-blade can only be created when a heart of pure light and a heart of pure darkness, both at equal power, intersect. But we don't know where exactly it was that Riku awakened Way to Dawn, mainly because that novel translation is very difficult to track down.

 

But if that is true then how is it that they existed before the x-blades destruction as we know now that these keyblades do not exist in the present version of bbs?

Tis a concept video my good sir. The KH2 secret ending I mean.

 

Ven being able to use the inverse kingdom key and TAV in the picking up the other keyblades were just some ideas Nomura tossed; although, I would say the ideas did get pretty far.

 

Though they still are symbolic, hinting at their fates and all ^^

 

Ven's keyblade is an enigma to me. Part of its handle is identical to the kingdom key but you could say it wasn't based off of the kingdom key but none other than the x-blade.

It's moreso to hint towards his connection with Sora. The style is rather similar to the Kingdom Key after all.

 

Vanitas' keyblade seemed similar to the other part of the x-blade that wasn't the two kingdom keys.

No...I honestly don't see the resemblance.

 

Each realm has its own kingdom hearts; however, there is still only one kingdom hearts.

No, there just a single Kingdom Hearts, deep within the darkest depths of the Realm of Darkness possibly. Like Sora's quote: "Within every darkness, there is light" or something like that. Hey, actually, you just contradicted yourself

 

Before the keyblade wars the realm of light was one big world with kingdom hearts at its center same goes for the realm of darkness. WAIT! there never was actually a world/realm of between so what would have that kingdom hearts been for the realm between?

Only one true KH in existence. There was always a Realm of Inbetween. See: hastily made diagram created in Microsoft Paint -

 

http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/saign_365/KHFairyTale.jpg[/g]

 

Edit: Looks like it's been cut off. Here's the link then: http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/saign_365/KHFairyTale.jpg

 

Riku's Way to Dawn basically says it all because it is saying going to the between from the dark, which that is what the door to light/darkness does. Ansem sod also calls out to the door to darkness as if it was kingdom hearts, and if you were smart enough at the time you probably recognized that he is actually calling to the kingdom hearts within the rod.

Way to Dawn is representative of Riku himself. Way to Dawn, night to day, from the darkness to the light. As for the Ansem bit, saying only smart people would realize it is just lol worthy, I'm sorry. I mean, he flat out says "Kingdom Hearts, fill me with the power of darkness!" and reaching out towards the Door to Darkness. I don't know how much clearer that can get, but I digress...

 

-Ven was meant to wield. . .

a. way to dawn because that what he picks up in sunset horizons.

b. inverse kindom key because Terra and Aqua couldn't harm unversed with it.

Oh I'm sure they could've harmed Unversed with it. It's just that the Keyblade in question was configured to only be wielded by Ven. The other two were never given a chance with it. And again, tis a concept video my good sir.

 

 

Theory? -goes off to read-

 

...you seem to be making a pretty big deal about a concept video... but anyways' date=' I'm going to post my reply to your theory here, if you don't mind.[/quote']

 

Exactly the reason I was excited when I heard of the interview.

 

Already established that Kairi and Aqua aren't connected. Yes' date=' you can argue that they are (the Rite of Succession, the magic spell), but they're not connected in the same way Ven is to Sora and Terra is to Riku, which is a literal [i']heart-to-heart[/i] connection.

 

All true. Although by a deeper meaning I meant what I was going to saying later in the theory and it is a concept video so... (referring to TAV and RKS)

 

Everyone can physically hit the Unversed. It could be that only he could wield Light Seeker because Mickey shares a closer connection with Ven than Aqua and Terra. Or the bit because of the X-blade (don't ask about the interview because I still haven't found it yet D:)

 

The problem with that (bold) is Mickey hasn't gone into the dark realm yet.

 

Unless the keyblade wouldn't work for other people it wasn't meant for; for example "Could Ven wield Aquas original?" keyblade is what I am saying. Also I this is only what I heard

 

KK and KKD I can understand' date=' since the X-blade can only be created when a heart of pure light and a heart of pure darkness' date=' both at equal power, intersect. But we don't know where exactly it was that Riku awakened Way to Dawn, mainly because that novel translation is very difficult to track down.[/quote'']

 

If you consider that Wtd symbolizes the between it might be able to be work into the equation. (ex. If +,+/-, and - symbolize light, between, and dark the end result is still a balance.)

 

Tis a concept video my good sir. The KH2 secret ending I mean.

 

Though they still are symbolic' date=' hinting at their fates and all ^^[/quote']

 

... and if not only this then my theory.

 

It's moreso to hint towards his connection with Sora. The style is rather similar to the Kingdom Key after all.

 

This I completely take back so no need to talk about this part later.

 

No...I honestly don't see the resemblance.

 

Really. Because it would be hard to be able to make you see it all I can say is to look harder and also it is the the teeth of vanitas' blade and the non kk part that look similar.

 

No' date=' there just a single Kingdom Hearts' date=' deep within the darkest depths of the Realm of Darkness possibly. Like Sora's quote: "Within every darkness, there is light" or something like that. Hey, actually, you just contradicted yourself [/quote'']

 

What I meant by that is the true kh is in the rod but the world in the realm of light are a part of kh.

 

Only one true KH in existence. There was always a Realm of Inbetween. See: hastily made diagram created in Microsoft Paint -

 

http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/saign_365/KHFairyTale.jpg[/g]

 

Edit: Looks like it's been cut off. Here's the link then: http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/saign_365/KHFairyTale.jpg

 

But was the realm of between always accessible from the Realm of light

 

Way to Dawn is representative of Riku himself. Way to Dawn' date=' night to day' date=' from the darkness to the light. As for the Ansem bit, saying only smart people would realize it is just lol worthy, I'm sorry. I mean, he flat out says "Kingdom Hearts, fill me with the power of darkness!" and reaching out towards the Door to Darkness. I don't know how much clearer that can get, but I digress...[/quote'']

 

I have heard some people say he was calling to kh behind the dtd becuase "how could kh be a door" so apparently it could be clearer lol. If you think about it moderately (as in why would kh be a door) you might come to that conclusion, if you don't think about it you are right because it is that obvious, and if you think about in the way my theory ends you are right also.

 

Oh I'm sure they could've harmed Unversed with it. It's just that the Keyblade in question was configured to only be wielded by Ven. The other two were never given a chance with it. And again' date=' tis a concept video my good sir.

[/quote']

 

As I said above "it was what I heard other people say about it" and other than that you could be right. For the most part it was the fact that this keyblade was in the data that got me going on this theory not "oh TAV pick up three keyblades so they must have been super important" because that would leave this whole theory baseless. The interview you mentioned and the kkd in the data are the two things I think that give this idea some base to it so that this could have been part of the plot. Other than the main theory the about the three keyblades the rest is mostly detail that goes along with the topic.

 

Edit: If I was mean or rude in any way I completely didn't mean it. My conscience just told to write this at almost midnight because I couldn't sleep. *yawn*

Really. Because it would be hard to be able to make you see it all I can say is to look harder and also it is the the teeth of vanitas' blade and the non kk part that look similar.

No. I really don't see the resemblance. Think you can provide a pic pointing what which parts your referring to?

 

But was the realm of between always accessible from the Realm of light

Since the "stairway" representing the RoI had always existed, then I'd say yes.

 

I have heard some people say he was calling to kh behind the dtd becuase "how could kh be a door" so apparently it could be clearer lol.

Lol people

 

Edit: If I was mean or rude in any way I completely didn't mean it. My conscience just told to write this at almost midnight because I couldn't sleep. *yawn*

Oh no worries. I didn't find it until...right now. Cuz it's the weekend, and I sleep late

 

That said though, the explanations in your previous post does help make more sense ^^

 

No. I really don't see the resemblance. Think you can provide a pic pointing what which parts your referring to?

 

That's funny. A lot of my day yesterday was trying to find a way to put photoshoped pics onto the internet. Still not successful.

 

Anyways' date=' because being specific is the next best thing, let me explain it a bit better. Where the two kks cross a pattern similar to a web emerges. The teeth and end of Vanitas' keyblade are like it in the way that the circles or in this case part of a circle (inner circle aprox. 1/2 of a crirle; outer circle aprox. 1/3 of a circle) are based around a central point and have similar lines extending from the center through these circles outward. I hope that helped.

 

Since the "stairway" representing the RoI had always existed' date=' then I'd say yes. [/quote']

 

This is somewhat off topic but I dislike the stairway explanation for the realm between because it dismisses the realm of nothing. The one thing it explains is that there are different levels of the realm of between; some closer to the light, some closer to the dark. The cross roads show there are also levels of between closer to nothing

 

Back on current subject. Correct me if I am wrong so you're saying the realm of between has always existed and it could be accessed from the realm of light.

 

Back to initial subject. This was the analogy with kh, the x-blade and the three keyblades. And what it all boils down to is whether way to dawn connected to the x-blade and my reasoning was that a way to dawn is literally the dtd. This gives it a connection to the realm between, which if incorporated into the equation wouldn't change the end result of +/-. Yes, way to dawn was talking about Riku's path, but things in kh often will have more than one connections. Finally, because it was a concept video we may never know.

 

EDIT: new evidence for my theory. I just noticed when SRM at the end of the game do the keyblade thing a heart is made. Like how it looks when a heartless is defeated. Then it turns into three, which is perhaps symbolism of the x-blade turning into these three keyblades.

Also this:

In the ending, Riku and the King are on the other side of the door. Why is that?

NOMURA: As far as the King is concerned, he was on the other side from the beginning. He disappeared because he went to the world on the other side in order to find one of the two keys. There, he has his own adventure in the same way as Sora. As for Riku: his body stolen by Ansem, his heart did not remain in this world. The other side of the door is, just as it appears, darkness. So Riku