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Thanks a ton, Tarkaturtle!! I'm glad you have could do it. I'm very thankful to you for posting the pictures of the Dream Eaters. However, I think the list is not complete; they told us there are 50 kinds of Spirit Dream Eaters, but I only count 40 in the pictures. Anyway, since something is better than nothing, thank you. I would want you could post information about the Dream Eaters, even if it's just a bit at the time. So, to make it more easy to you, I'm going to post some info I have to complete with the pictures you have sent. I'm going to start by identify the Dream Eaters from your pictures, from right to left: 1º) Wonder Meow (Wandanyan): One of the most popular. 2º) Tamasheep: I don't know what kind of creature is this; a ram or a bug? 3º) Bat Bat (Komori Bat): Easy to identify. 4º) Goat Horn (Yagi Horn): Easy to identify too. 5º) Needle Lion (Hari Lion). 6º) Hebi Tokage (something like "Snake Lizard") 7º) Frog Soldier (Kaeru Soldier) 8º) Dragon Horse (Tatsu Horse) 9º) Poison Salamander (Dokudoku Sansho) 10º) Torpedo Fish (Gyoraigyo) 11º) Cat Cat (Neko Cat) 12º) Swift Giraffe (Idaten Kirin) 13º) Bear Panda (Kuma Panda) 14º) Handsome Pegasus 15º) Nail Bird (Naru Bird) 16º) Scissor Beetle (Hasami Kuwagata) **17º) No idea of the name of this one, but I guess it could be one called "Hone Fish" (in english "Bone Fish"). You know, because it looks like a fish's skeleton. 18º) Flower Wonder Meow (Hanadawan'nyan) **19º) No idea of which one is this, but by his similarity with Yagi Horn (Goat Horn), I guess it could one called Yagi Cyber (Cyber Goat). I need someone confirm my theory. 20º) Frog Chef (Kaeru Chef) 21º) Frog Prince (Kaeru Ouji) **22º) No idea, but because of its similarities to Tatsu Horse (Dragon Horse), I suspect it could be one called Moerodatsu Horse 23º) Electric Unicorn 24º) Vile Flower (Waru Flower) 25º) Ghost Pierrot (Obake Pierrot) **26º) No idea. It seems some kind of bird, like Nail Bird (Naru Bird) 27º) Paw Bunny (Mimi Bunny) 28º) Drill Rhino (Drill Sai) 29º) Tyrant Rex (Boukun Rex) **30º) I'm not sure of this one, but it seems similar to Mimi Bunny (Paw Bunny), so it could be one called "Magic Rabbit". 31º) Trihorneratops (Tsunokeratops) **32º) No idea of this one. It seems similar to Tyrant Rex (Boukun Rex), but it seems more like the skeleton of a T-Rex than a real T-Rex. 33º) Bigmouth Duck (Haraguchi Ahiru). I'm not entirely sure about this one, but it seems the most probable identification for this one. 34º) Aura Lion. **35º) No a single idea. It seems a cross between bird and dinosaur, or something like that. **36º) No a sigle idea. Its body is just like Aura Lion, but the head clearly shows another animal. **37º) No idea with this one. It seems similar in body shape to "Haraguchi Ahiru", but with a look of a dragon instead of a duck. Maybe it could be the one called Ryuu Dragon. 38º) Kingly Meow (Kingda Nyan) 39º) Bear Circus (Kumada Daisakasu) 40º) Nekuppoi (I don't know which could be its english name) About the Nightmare Bosses, these are the names of some of them: 1º) Spellican (Combination of "Spell" and Pelican") 2º) Gigabyte Mantis (It's not hard to figure it since there's a song in the track list of the videogame with the same name, don't you think?). 3º) Flaming Lobster (Meramera Lobster) 4º) Hakozaru (Part of the name means "monkey", which is weird because it looks like more like a cat than a Mmonkey to me). **5º) No idea of its name, but it seems similar to an octopus or a squid. 6º) Freezing Lobster (No idea of his original name, but I read somewhere about this Nightmare and its "twin" being related with fire and ice). 7º) Sora's Nightmare (No official name, but seems the most logical to me) 8º) Queen Moth (Possible name considering its designed after a queen bee) **9º) No idea, but it seems designed after a mole. 10º) Bullet Gargoyle. About the Dream Eaters that lack in the list 1º) Sea Lion Juggler (Akira Juggler): A Dream Eater similar to a seal. 2º) Denden Cargot: The Dream Eater similar to a snail. 3º) Ganmi Fukurou: The Dream Eater similar to an owl. 4º) Ice Penguin: As the name says, the Dream Eater based on a penguin. 5º) Lily Flower: The Dream Eater based on a beautiful flower, instead of the one based on a thorned flower plant (Vile Flower). 6º) Zou Elephant: The Dream Eater clearly based on an elephant. 7º) Taihou Kabuto: A exclusive Spirit Dream Eater based on a rhinoceros beetle. And these are names of possibly-unknown-yet Dream Eaters: + Magic Rabbit + Moerodatsu Horse + Ryuu Dragon + Tsuno Kabuto + Yagi Cyber Takaturtle, I have add all the info I could get. I hope this will animate you to complete the list and give us some information about each of the Dream Eaters, please.

OK, since I have already talked about the 13 Darknesses, now I'm going to talk about the Seven Lights that will face them and the Seven Hearts of pure light. There's going to be several points around this matter: 1º) 7 Lights vs 13 Darknesses: I don't find this fair, you know? Why the good guys must be always find theirselves trapped in numeric inferiority? If they all end clashing each other in the Keyblade Graveyard, as Master Xehanort pretend, this means each hero will have to fight two ridiculously powerful enemies at the same time? I don't find this fair at all; fighting two villains at the same time while you protect a damsel in distress. I have a theory about something more interesting to happen. Do you remember when Kairi's heart ended inside Sora at the beginning of the first videogame? I think something like that could happen again with all the Princesses of Heart. Seeing that the heroes can't fight and protect them at the same time in numeric inferiority, the Princess could decide to use their power to increase the one from the heroes. Then, just like Kairi did with Sora, they will take refuge inside another 7 heroes; increasing the powers of the other 7 heroes to fight, allowing the Seven Lights not to worry so much about them, and allowing the own Princesses to take part of the fight. (The whole stuff of damsel in distress is getting really old and lame nowadays, even for Disney). There's two ways that I see this happening: On one hand, since most of the Princesses of Heart are Disney's Princesses at the same time, they could give their power and be safe inside the bodies of 7 Disney Heroes. Most of them would be the same heroes that the Princesses love; and as an amazing bonus, they could use Keyblades based on the Princesses' worlds or the heroes' worlds. Most of them have been also team partners for Sora in previous adventures. Check this: + Kairi would be safe inside Sora, just like the last time. However, since it seems she's going to be trained as a Keyblade Wielder too (according to the Secret Ending in KH:3D), I doubt she will need so much protection again. So this one doesn't count. + Belle would be obviously protected inside the Beast, and even although the curse was broken at the end of KH-II, the Beast would recover his form in order to use it as his power to fight and protect what he really loves (Belle). It's hard to imagine the Beast using a Keyblade, but anything can happen, right? His Keyblade could be Rumbling Rose (as it has a design with some features from the Beast) and/or Divine Rose. + Jasmine would be safe inside Aladdin, an easy one to predict. In the games, Aladdin use to hold a simple scimitar as a weapon; so it would be easy for him to use a Keyblade. His Keyblade's would be ones you gained from his world: Wishing Lamp (KH-II) and Three Wishes (KH-I). + Aurora would be protected inside Prince Phillip, another one easy to choose and he was a team partner for Aqua in "Birth by Sleep". Prince Phillip weapons use to be the Sword of Truth and the Shield of Virtue, but I guess he could also use the keyblade of his world, Fairy Stars. + Alice would be protected inside Peter Pan. Even although they are from different worlds, the similarities between Wendy and Alice (besides both of them having the same apparent age of Peter) makes this possibility suitable. Peter could use either the Keyblades from Neverland (Fairy Harp and/or Pixie Petal) or the one from Wonderland (Lady Luck). + Cinderella could be protected inside Hercules. I know, this is a strange combination and they are not from the same world either, but I couldn't find a better option. Maybe we could say Cinderella is the most fragile of the Princesses (maybe because of her glass slippers) and she needs the strongest hero (Hercules) to protect her. Hercules could use all the Keyblades from Olympus (Mark of a Hero, Olympia or Hero's Crest) and/or the one from Cinderella's world (Stroke of Midnight). + Finally, Snow White could be protected inside Snow White. I don't find any explanation for this combination, except maybe I'm unconscionably influenced by the new future movie "Snow White and the Huntsman"; where Show White's character is represented as a princess in a war, something similar to Mulan, I guess. Mulan could use the Keyblade of his world (Hidden Dragon) or from Snow White's world (Treasure Trove). I have another alternative for the Seven Hearts of pure light to join the battle. Instead of being inside Disney's heroes, the Princess of Hearts could use their power to free other Keyblade heroes and take refuge inside of them. Then, when the fight is over, the Princess allow them to stay as individuals with their power. What am I talking about? Well, if the Seven Lights are Keyblade Wielders (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Terra, Aqua and Mickey), the heroes used by the Princesses of Heart would be the Keyblade Wielders with some kind of "problem": + Roxas: He's trapped inside Sora as his Nobody, and in KH:3D, Sora expressed his desire of Roxas being able to live by himself without Sora. That's a good choice. + Xion: Just like Roxas, she's also trapped inside Sora. One of the Princess could grant her a body to exist as a real individual, not just a copy, in exchange for letting the Princess stay inside of her until the 13 Darknesses are defeated. + Axel: Well, actually, he doesn't have a big problem like the other ones. However, the power of one of the Princesses of Heart could grant him an increased power and a better knowledge about how to use the Keyblade now. I'm thinking he could even be restored as his old teen self, the one we saw in "Birth by Sleep"; possibly thanks to the youngest Princess, Alice. + Namine: She's Kairi's Nobody, and if Kairi can use the Keyblade, by extension, I guess Namine could use it too. Being the Nobody of one Princess of Heart could link her to their power, which could allow her to exist aside from Kairi. And at the same time, she could protect another of the Princess. She could protect Jasmine, as she's as much heroine as princess in Aladdin's series. + Riku Replica: I mentioned in another topic the possibility of the guy Riku saw in Prankster's Paradise who looked just like him was actually "Repliku", who could have faked his death back in "KH:CoM" using the power of illusion he stole from Zexion, when Repliku absorved him. If Riku could overcome his inner darkness and gain the power of a Keyblade, I guess this guy could too. With the power to protect one of the Princesses of Heart, he could finally have a different life aside from Riku, and have his own personality. + Data Sora: Unlike Riku Replica, this digital copy of Sora (from KH: Re Coded) doesn't seem to care about the fact that he's a copy. He's just like Sora in the first game, and since his enemy (Sora's Heartless digital copy) tried to escape into the real world, I guess there must be a way for him to do the same. He could fit perfectly as the last hero to protect one of the Seven Hearts of pure light, and gain his own existence after that. And so, with 14 lights (7 Hearts of pure light inside 7 heroes AND 7 Light's protectors) vs 13 darkness, that would be a more fair fight. I guess two of the heroes would fight against the leader of the Darknesses (Master Xehanort), since he's the most powerful of all. Again, this is a way too long post, so I will wait for a few replies and opinions before sending my next analysis.

It can't be Data-Riku because that was inicially just a form used by Jiminy's Journal to communicate with Mickey and co. In all cases, he must be still inside the Digital World inside Mickey's computer; as the voice of the digitalized journal. Riku Replica from KH:CoM is definitely a better option.

Sorry, but I don't find sense in that theory. I mean, Sora and Riku mission was to awake the worlds in the Realm of Sleeping and restore them completely. Even with the interferences of the new Organization XIII, at least that part of the mission was completed. So, if Traverse Town and the other worlds are back to the real world, it doesn't have sense to return to the Realm of Sleep because they are no longer there. It's true that the portal opened by Sora had the same look of the one opened when you completed a world; however, that doesn't mean he's back to the Realm of Sleep. Maybe it's his new way to travel to different worlds, just like in BbS it was an orb of light, in KH-II was with keyholes revealed by objects and in the first KH was with the Gummi Ship. I guess there's many ways to travel between worlds, just like the bad guys use the Darkness Corridors. And Sora didn't seem worried at all about losing his Mark of Mastery's test. It wasn't even his fault, he failed because a treacherous attack of the Org XIII to use him for their purposes interfered with his test. I'm sure Sora would have passed it if they wouldn't have interfered. Sora is the kind of guy who doesn't care about "titles", he just do was it has to be done because his friends need him; and he's not going to let anything or anyone stop him. And the first Keyhole of Sleep was in Destiny Islands? It doesn't have any sense!! Destiny Islands were restored at the end of the first videogame, so that world shouldn't be in the Real of Sleep. Besides, what the shell was doing Ursula in Destiny Islands? Even in a dream, it doesn't have sense. I think that "Destiny Islands" must be something different.

I start this other new topic to talk about several cliffhangers that I found through several parts of Kingdom Hearts saga. I'll try to be clear so everyone can understand me: 1º) The New Organization XIII: Let's see if I understand this. Through the Realm of Sleeping, Xehanort and his other "selves" gathered from different times and places, right? (I guess there are few rules when we talk about the realm of dreams). At the end of that reunion, according to the old Master Xehanort, he and his other selves had to return to their times and places; as that's the rule of time traveling. That means the Xenmas, Ansem SoD, Saix and Xigbar that appeared here must came from a past before Sora and Riku defeated them, right? Well, that would mean that only the old Master Xehanort really exist in the present. However, he mentioned that he would "recreate" all his selves as regular persons; but that's impossible, since Ansem SoD and Xenmas don't exist anymore after being defeated by Sora and Riku. And their original self has been restored in Master Xehanort. Then how can Master Xehanort expect to recreate his different selves as individuals under his control? I have a theory about it: Do you remember the Replica Program? It was a planned series of experiments conducted by Vexen under Xemnas's orders, with some involuntary help of Naminé. He attempted to make Replicas of Keyblade wielders Sora and Riku in case the original Sora proved to be useless to Xemnas's plans for Kingdom Hearts. The Replicas are like "clones" of other persons, and are classified as a special kind of Nobody; "empty vessels without a heart". The first replica created by the program was Xion. However, after Xion's defection and her death by Roxas, Xemnas discontinued the program. In the Secret Reports of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, it's mentioned another inferior, numberless replica that was taken to Castle Oblivion (Riku Replica). The Secret Reports also reveal the existence of other unused replicas. Well, they said the Replica Program was discontinued, but I wouldn't be so sure. And if there were other unused replicas, what happened to them? I think those unseen Replicas are actually duplicates of the different selves used by Master Xehanort; and since Master Xehanort is now back, he could use them to recreate separately most of his previous selves. I mean, what's the point in trying to steal the bodies of other persons when is easier to create empty vessels in a laboratory without needing to fight those persons to steal their bodies? Don't you think Master Xehanort could realize this is a much easy way to gain his objectives? Therefore, if we talk about who can be the members of the new true Organization XIII, I think we should think about the most powerful and mysterious enemies that the main characters have faced in the past. That means, the "big bad meanies". Let's see: + Master Xehanort: Confirmed. The original and present self. He's obviously the leader. + Young Xehanort: Confirmed. Possibly a Replica of his young self, with the power of Time. + Xenmas: Confirmed. Possibly a Replica of his own Nobody, with the power of Nothing and commander of all the Nobodies. + Ansem, SoD: Confirmed. Possibly a Replica of his own Heartless. With the power of Darkness and commander of most of Heartless. + Saix: Confirmed. Possibly Isa restored, but still infected by Xehanort's influence. He has the power of Moon and command several Nobodies. + Xigbar: Confirmed. Possibly Braig restored, but still infected by Xehanort's influence. He has the power of Space and command several Nobodies. - Terra-Xehanort: A possible Replica of "Terranort" (as called by fans), who was Terra just after being possessed by Master Xehanort's heart; resulting in Terra having silver hair and golden eyes. He was the final boss in Terra's story and the whole "Bith by Sleep", so he's a good choice. - Vanitas: Possibly the real Vanitas restored, because if light and darkness can't exist without each other, that means Ventus (light) couldn't have survived if Vanitas (darkness) was really destroyed. He's the leader of the Unversed, and Master Xehanort trained him for a long time; so I wouldn't be surprised to see him again in the future. - Ventus-Vanitas: Possibly a Replica of Vanitas (and by extention, Xehanort) from the time Vanitas merged with Ventus, taking over his body and used the X-Blade against Aqua as the final boss of her side of the story. ** Xehanort: I'm talking about a Replica of "Terranort" when he was just Xehanort, the apprentice of Ansem the Wise; or when he was the young man that said "This world is just too small" at the beginning of "Birth by Sleep". However, I'm not sure if this would be the same Xehanort that "Young Xehanort". Young Xehanort looks to me with the same age of Ventus, while the young Xehanort at the beginning of "Birth by Sleep" looks to me with Terra's age. Do you think they are the same guy? I'm not entirely sure of this one as a possible member, honestly. - Master Eraqus: Possibly a Replica of Keyblade Master who teached Ventus, Aqua and Terra. His strong belief about rejecting the darkness at every level makes difficult to consider him as a vessel for Xehanort. However, Eraqus' believes became an obssession, which created darkness inside of him; as he recognized just before Master Xehanort killed him. And since Eraqus' heart ended inside Terra's (according to the secret ending of BbS), that left Eraqus' bosy empty to use it as a vessel. MX could have done it at the same time he killed Eraqus or even planted some "darkness' seeds" when he hurted Eraqus in the face. Sounds ppossible, don't you think? - Sora's Heartless: The digital version of this being was the main big villain in "KH: Re Coded". Being originally a facsimile, he evolved to become something more; with the power to control both the Bugs and the digital Heartless. His plan was to enter the real world, and although Data-Sora stopped him, that's something it could have happened. Besides, as far as I know, in Dream Drop Distance, Maleficent and Pete attacked Disney Castle to steal the Digital World in Mickey's computer. I don't know why she wanted, but if she was following Master Xehanort's orders or something, I could be to bring Sora's Heartless to the real world and turn him into one of his vessels. It's a possibility, don't you think? - Sora's Nightmare: Possibly a Replica of the misterious "Unknown with Red Eyes" that fought Riku before he could save Sora. I don't know who or what exactly this being was, but I think it could fill one place in the new Organization XIII. The new Org XIII seems to gather leaders of all the kinds of enemies faced before: Ansem leads the Heartless, Xenmas and co leads the Nobodies, Vanitas leads the Unversed, Sora's Heartless could leads the Bugs... So they will only need a leader for the Nightmares Dream Eaters. This character seems suitable for that. - Riku Replica: Possibly a Replica of Riku when he was possessed by Ansem and used the Keyblade of People's Hearts. I thought this could be the one we saw in "Prankster's Paradise", but since it didn't seem to be a real enemy and it didn't have the yellow eyes like all Xehanorts, I doubt it. However, this doesn't mean it can't be another Replica of Riku corrupted around there. I have more cliffhangers to comment, but I'm afraid this one is already too long. I will post the next one as soon as somebody post some replies.

Hello again. I start this new topic to talk about something that really bugs me, mainly focus on the Spirit Dream Eaters. I hope somebody can send soon a list with data, photos and pictures of all the Spirits you can partner in the game, by the way. I also hope somebody can translate soon the whole last part of the game; mainly from the already translated scene when Riku and co saves Sora. Well, these are my comments: 1º) Why did Sora go solo to another journey at the end of the game? The only reason I can think is that he wanted to make sure all the worlds freed from the Realm of Sleeping were OK. Do you have any other ideas? By the way, there's something strange around this. According to Sora and Riku, they had to unlock Seven Keyholes of Sleep to restore those worlds; Seven Keyholes but there was only six worlds (Traverse Town, Prankster's Paradise, The Grid, La Cité des Cloches, The Country of the Musketeers and Symphony of Sorcery). As far as I have seen in the cutscenes of the story, it seems both Sora and Riku visit Traverse Town two times, and they unlock a different keyhole in that place every time. Any ideas about why there was two Keyholes in this city? 2º) After the credits, we saw Sora back to Traverse Town, but this time in the real world. (He had his appearance and outfit from Kingdom Hearts II). The strange part here is when, suddenly, all the Spirit Dream Eaters that you can use in the game appear and gather around Sora. How can it be? How can the Dream Eater exist in the real world now? Well, actually, I have a theory. I guess this must be a reference to one of Disney's most famous mottos: "Dreams Come True". Or maybe this could be the meaning behind the phrase "Birth by Sleep". Anyway, the truth is that I expected it would happen something like this at the end. The bad guys already have lots of minions (the Heartless, the Nobodies, the Unversed, the Bugs and the Nightmares); I think it was time that the good guys have their own "army" with the Spirits, don't you think? You know?, the last scene with Sora surrounded by all the friendly Spirits mades me think about Pokemon. The scene was like Ash returning to Professor Oak's lab after one of his journeys, and being greeted by all his Pokemon from previous adventures. In fact, this has made me realize the similarities between both worlds. (It's not a complain, in fact, I like it). Both videogames-histories have similar "trinities". If Sora is like Ash's parallel self, I think Kairi would be the girl of the group (Misty, May, Dawn and Iris) and Riku would be "mature boy" (Brock, Tracey and Cilan). I have even noticed the similarities between some Dream Eaters and some Pokemon: + "Bat Bat" is very similar to Crobat, and also other Bats Pokemon like Swoobat and Gliscor. "Bat Bat" even attack with sonic wades, similar to Crobat's Supersonic attack. + "Dragon Horse" is very similar to Seadra and Kingdra, all of them based on sea horses. + "Zou Elephant" has similarities to some other Pokemon based on elephants, like Donphan and Mamoswine. Possibly, a little more on Mamoswine. + "Nail Bird" is similar to several Pokemon based on raptor birds. For example, Pidgeot, Swellow, Braviary or Staraptor. + "Scissor Beetle" is like a scarab with pincers, like the Pokemon named Pinsir. However, the part of "scissor" in the name mades me think about another Bug type Pokemon named Scizor. + "Drill Rhino" is a rhinoceros with a driller horn, just like the Pokemons Rhyhorn and Rhydon. + "Lily Flower" is a living flower with a good design to be a girl's partner, like the Pokemons Vileplume or Bellossom. + "Swift Giraffe" is based on a giraffe, just like the Pokemon named Girafarig. + "Tyrant Rex" actually makes me think more about Greymon, from "Digimon"; as both are based on a Tyrannosaur Rex. In Pokemon's world, maybe we could compare it with Rampardos. There are more similarities, but I don't want to post all of them and spoil the fun. You know?, there's another thing that comes to mind. Sora hcould have brought the Spirits to the real world using them as a physical manifestation of the friends he made in his previous journeys. Think about it: + "Handsome Pegasus" could represent Sora's memories of the Olympus Coliseum, as this Spirit is similar to Pegasus, from "Hercules". + "Aura Lion" could represent Sora's memories of Simba and his world, "The Pride Lands". + "Kuma Panda" could represent Sora's memories of Mulan and the "Land of the Dragons". I don't know, maybe because in "Mulan" it appeared a Panda too? + "Zou Elephant" could represent Sora's memories of Tarzan and his world, "Deep Jungle", because of its similarities to Tantor. (But of course, there's the problem of Tarzan's world erased from the universe of Kingdom Hearts). Well, what do you think about all this?

Thanks for the pictures and the info, Takaturtle. Could you upload a list with pictures and names of the Spirits you can use in the game too, please?

Hello, everyone. I'm a new guy here and I have joined these forums to talk about the new discoveries from "Dream Drop Distance". The first thing I want to comment is something that it really bugs me; something we saw in Riku's game at "Prankster's Paradise". I really hope somebody can translate it. You see, the weird stuff for me is when Riku found Pinocchio walking through Monstro's guts alongside a cloaked guy with Org XIII's style. This misterious guy doesn't seem an enemy, but when Riku demands his identity, he removes his hood and reveals to be... Riku?!! Well, actually, he has Riku's face in the first Kingdom Hearts videogame, with long hair. He then disappears in a dark corridor without saying a word. I don't understand this. The only explanation I have is that guy was actually Riku Replica (from KH:CoM), but I don't understand how he has returned. Actually, I have a theory. Before his last battle against Riku, he killed and absorbed Zexion's powers; which element was "Ilussion". What if Riku Replica's demise in KH:CoM was actually an ilussion created by himself? I meant, an advantage of being dead is that nobody looks for you. Riku Replica could have done this to fake his death, then start wandering around there looking for a purpose in his life. Sounds possible, right? At first, I thought it could be another of Master Xehanort's vessels; however, it doesn't look that way considering he doesn't have the pointed ears and the golden eyes like the others (Saix, Ansem, Xigbar, Xenmas and Young Xehanort). Can anyone please translate that scene of the game? This is a very interesting mystery.