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I only read them when I buy them, so I don't read the fan translations.

Happened during a video...thought I clicked something by accident.

At the same time as 3, I'm sticking the final real conversation between Isa and Lea; Lea trying to reason with Isa. After that, there's no more convo and just the final battle at the end.

Fine fine I give up. I admit, KH holds the opinion that "No one is gone for good". I just wanna play as Roxas man, give me a break Lol.

I meant opposite as in Sora was once a heartless, so he temperarilly becomes a heartless. While he was once a nobody, so he temporarily becomes a nobody. I know canonically Final form is anti's opposite, and it represents nobodies, but Sora isn't actually becoming a nobody, you know? Though I guess you could argue he isn't a heartless in anti form either. Either way, Roxas is apart of Sora now. The only way I could see him coming back is if he can temporarily take over Sora's body. Either that, or Sora truley becomes both Sora and Roxas, having his memories and feelings for Xion and Axel.

Yeah you're right. The only way I could see Roxas coming back now though is if he could temporarily take over Sora's body. The opposite of an anti-form comes to mind, honestly. That'd be sick if Roxas was a drive form.

That would've been good idea, I hope Nomura will have some creative way of implementing Sora's new melee skills with keeping the old KH2 style of commands. Yeah hands down if Roxas was still around and had KH3 Sora's skills, he'd kill Ven. But Roxas as he is in KH2/Days I'd have to side with ven. It really all depends on what timeframe you take these two characters from, since as of yet they aren't both "fight ready" in the same timeframe. Though, that could change in KH3.

I could see the excuse of, "if their light isn't strong enough, we don't need them anyways. We'll kill them and go after a princess of heart". But then again, Just because there's less then seven, doesn't mean the remainder would allow Xeha to get at the princesses. But they're honestly the only excuse I can think of off the top of my head.

Er, right, blonde moment there, Lol. Everyone else remembers, but Sora doesn't. But KH3 isn't entirley, Sora will have powerful skills such as keyblade transformations which will showcase his mastery of the keyblade (even though he isn't a master) That's why I said cast your vote. It's anyones opinion on who'd win, there's no absolute.

Wait, are you talking about the roxas rejoining in kh2 or kh3d? in 2 definitely no, no one remembered COM, hence recoded. In 3d idk it looked more or less like he just gained all of Roxas' memories. In this hypothetical fight debate, I'm taking mechanics as literal. It doesn't really matter anyways, opinions are opinions right? Cast your vote, who will win the "Fight for the blonde spikey hair" match? Sidenote: No, cloud isn't included. Sorry.

"More or less"

I do like the interview. I literally *liked* it. This isn't a "here we are two pages later because you're stubborn", I'm not being stubborn. I believe that young Sora could definitely use COM skills, but I believe he didn't know how. My first post explains my opinion on how a master's teachings effectivley guide the student, and how it is reflected in gameplay. Nomura had the key word of potential. That's the key word.

Lol don't go assuming shit, I'm defending my opinion because that's the nature of this topic; to state your opinions. No, there is another interpretation. He didn't want players using Ars arcanum and Thundaga right away, because that's what Sora was capable of. Did you play KH1? Haven't I stated before anyone with the right guidance anyone is capable of anything? Yeah, I have. The cards gave him the knowledge or power to do so. Nomura isn't disproving my theory. And for shit's sake, stalking me? One time I didn't like how Nomura explained Roxas. Big whoop. Quit throwing unrelated personal attacks simply because you don't agree with something, which this time isn't disproved by Nomura.

Look, in the end this is all opinions. If we disagree then that's just that; we disagree. You're rebuttle to my recoded argument is purely your opinion, and im not going to argue it since it would just involve repeating my stance once again.And you are also completely interpreting nomura's words in your own opinion as well. I don't agree with how you translate it, and that's that.I've clearly explained my stance, and since i've also proven its validicy, i really have no further use rebutting every different interpretation a person can think of.

Yes but in this case how does he learn these skills? The cards!!! Which is my point!

...Which also further supports that it's the card's power granting him these abilities, rather then them being his own. Where would Sora learn lethal frame from? The only conclusion is the cards granted him the knowledge/power to do so.

Actually that helps my theory. Sora didn't know how to use Holy or Tornado, but Ven did. The cards read his deep memories (Ven's) and granted Sora the knowledge of them.

I disagree. I believe it is data Sora's own experience/other forces that allowed him to do what he did. You seem to be misinterpreting something here. Any keyblade wielder, with the right influence, has the potential to learn combo skills. However, Sora, the real one, didn't until 3D. Data Sora's experiences on his bug adventure are vastely different than Sora's, thus his abilities are his and his alone. By the way, remember how Data sora is upgraded? That's right, by a circuit board. You are editing his data. He isn't what the data says, and neither is his abilities. He is constantly modified throughout the game.

Sora did not use fire dive in KH1. That is a fact. Thus, Fire dive should not be in the true journal. Thus, it can be determined that these skills are from other origins, either bugs or mickey, or from Data sora himself (as his own person), since it is shown that he obtained a heart of his own. You're wrong. Read above. Anyways, speaking about KH3 specifically, that's not true. Sure the basic magic system will be back, but the game isn't out yet. Sora can use keyblade transformations, which is shown by terra's armour to be an advanced skill combining magic and keyblade! That in and of itself supports the symbolism I believe in. And who knows, maybe there will be combos where if certain moves are chained together, sora can release a mega flare? The game isn't out yet, don't declare a verdict before the witness is even born.

No, is recoded's bugged story what was recorded in the journal? No, it wasn't. The journal was bugged.

Except he wasn't. Mickey made the Keyblade for Data Sora. He gave data Sora the "Power to fight". Mickey and pals programed that power into data Sora.

No, data Sora is technically a different character, the origins of his power are different, and thus he holds no ground on determining how the real sora is. But we already know we disagree. That's not why you made this thread, right? You made it to get the opinions of others.

Think about it, it's quite symbolic actually. In KH1 And KH2, the 2/3 adventures that Sora actually remembers, he can only use one ability at a time. Strike raid. Firaga. However, in the 3rd adventure Sora remembers, when Yensid sends him and Riku back in time and into the sleeping worlds to learn how to use the keyblade from scratch the "correct" way, and attain the mark of mastery, he is ably to use thunder raid, holy, and all those other complex and advanced skills. Just like how the three apprentices from BBS used the keyblade, who were trained from the beginning by real masters, and not just learning by themselves like Sora. Anyways, aside from the Mark of Mastery Test, the only time Sora can use advanced skills is in COM. Sense there must be a reason for this, else final form sora could bust out some raging storms, it must have been the cards that either granted him that power or granted him the knowledge on how to use those skills.

All I read was the title, and I agree. Shhh shhh, don't need to convince me. I already agree. It's ok, it's fine, no need to explain yourself, I agree. *Like*