I've had enough. I'm probably too intoxicated in the current state of the KH community as of today. This forum thread hopes to be a platform for people to also voice their hearts out.
Complaint No. 1: People want KH3, and they want it now.
First of all, why? why would you want KH3 right now? I got two points to back this thing up.
a. The story is not ready... yet.
"But we're already at KH3, what do you mean the story is not ready yet?" I'm willing to wager a challenge. Introduce a guy who has no idea of Kingdom Hearts and have him/her play only three games: Kingdom Hearts 1, Kingdom Hearts 2 and Kingdom Hearts 3D. Then, have him/her tell the entire lore. Impossible, right? Exactly. Some people have not played these "side-games" that they don't even care or bother to play it just because its not a numbered title. "It's a spin-off". Sure, as if Roxas' story as part of the Organization XIII is a "side-story". There are major parts of the lore that's been told in these "side-stories" but people have been too focused on wanting the story to go on that they missed major plot. Chances are, when KH3 comes out and we've played it all through, there's a chance that a number of people will go "what the flying firetruck was that?", and that's because they haven't played (or even read) the other games.
b. The game itself is not ready.
Just because there's screenshots and gameplay trailers doesn't mean that the game is in running condition already. Let's take Final Fantasy XV for example. Development of the game started in 2006 (man, we're old, the development started as KH2 came out in the west!) Through development constraints, shelving and all, the game was reintroduced at E3 2013 alongside Kingdom Hearts III. Fast forward to September 2014, when Nomura stepped down as the director for FFXV, Tabata took over, and development went full swing until it was released in November 2016. During that Nomura-Tabata directorship transition period, would you still think that Tabata carried on Nomura's vision of a Final Fantasy game? NO. The moment Nomura stepped down, Tabata already changed MOST of Nomura's works on Final Fantasy XV. As a result, FFXV technically only had a 2-year development cycle. As a result, there are major plot points, lots of crashes. They even announced that they'll add cutscenes that will fill in plot holes in later updates... THAT THING SHOULDN'T HAPPEN... AT ALL! [1]
See what my message there? Over the span of two short years of development time, SE was able to launch a game that is practically, incomplete. Kingdom Hearts III does not have a 10-year or a 2-year development cycle... Development started in 2012, right around the release of Kingdom Hearts 3D. and the reveal trailer you saw at E3 2013? That was all CGI. None of it was on Luminous engine or Unreal Engine 4. That was CGI. If you really want KH3 now, expect a de ja vu of what happened on FFXV. Period.
Complaint No. 2: For "KH Fans", Quality < Quantity.
This ties in well with my complaint no. 1. Ever since KH2, SE was not able to top the quality of the game that KH2 had. Days had this weird panel system, and the plot if kinda meh, Birth by Sleep is where they experimented (and failed miserably) on Command Style, then expanded the series more and confused people further, Re:Coded was meh if it weren't for the fact that its basically a refresher of KH1 and Re:CoM, 3D was just... TIME TRAVEL WOOHOO!!!!! and there's the abomination that is chi/Unchained chi... like, the series probably could stand alone without chi/Ux, but since the probability that everything regarding x/Ux will have its major connections on KH3, we have no other choice but to play it... or not, if you're not up to the cash-grab mechanics of the game... It has come to the point where people really just wants KH3 that they have zero idea what's going on with the lore.
Here's another point... 1.5 and 2.5... I appreciate the HD remasters but they're an outright abomination port-wise. Crashes, gameplay imbalances, they're shit, to be blunt. and people shrug it off like the remaster is perfect. The fact that people shrug the remaster's problems off is a concrete point that these so-called "fans" want more games, but not quality games. To quote Soraalam1 here: [2]
"...and the community is way too busy crying about a Kingdom Hearts 3 release date that they don't even care about the quality of the products that are being released to them to cause some kind of uproar or movement"
If 2.8 comes out and its another case of 1.5 and 2.5, the hopes of KH3 being an actual good game will get slimmer by the minute.
Complaint No. 3: Y U H8 Speedruns?
It has come to my attention that there are a group of people that hates KH speedruns... why? Why do you hate on a hobby that people have picked up? Is it because "they're breaking my game"? Oh please, grow up, there's barely any major glitch on KH series, I can probably count the glitches that speedrunners use here, and most of these aren't even actual glitches, more like exploits:
1. 1.5's Damage Storage Glitch
2. KH2FM/2.5's Cavern of Remembrance Skip
3. 2.5's BBSFM LV1 rebalance
4. Re:Coded's Game Over Stat Upgrade
Most of these aren't even glitches, they're just exploits used... are they mad just because they can finish a game faster than others? Is that even a point to be mad about? They're probably not blatantly mad about you whining about rushing a KH3 release, but y'all are complaining about speedrunners. Pssh... Grow up.
Complaint No. 4: You unappreciative son of a b.
When Nomura made the year-end thank you video, the comments on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter pages are just... plain jane cancer, maybe even stage 4. Instead of thanking Nomura back for a great KH series they're all "KH3! KH3! Where's my KH3? Enough of the side-games, just give us KH3!" It resonates up till now, when the english KH pages are uploading pictures that hypes up the game via FB, Twitter and Instagram. I have no words, just... *facepalms* just shut the firetruck up you unappreciative sons of bitches.
There's my complaints, what's yours? Sound off in the comments!
I've had enough. I'm probably too intoxicated in the current state of the KH community as of today. This forum thread hopes to be a platform for people to also voice their hearts out.
Complaint No. 1: People want KH3, and they want it now.
First of all, why? why would you want KH3 right now? I got two points to back this thing up.
a. The story is not ready... yet.
"But we're already at KH3, what do you mean the story is not ready yet?" I'm willing to wager a challenge. Introduce a guy who has no idea of Kingdom Hearts and have him/her play only three games: Kingdom Hearts 1, Kingdom Hearts 2 and Kingdom Hearts 3D. Then, have him/her tell the entire lore. Impossible, right? Exactly. Some people have not played these "side-games" that they don't even care or bother to play it just because its not a numbered title. "It's a spin-off". Sure, as if Roxas' story as part of the Organization XIII is a "side-story". There are major parts of the lore that's been told in these "side-stories" but people have been too focused on wanting the story to go on that they missed major plot. Chances are, when KH3 comes out and we've played it all through, there's a chance that a number of people will go "what the flying firetruck was that?", and that's because they haven't played (or even read) the other games.
b. The game itself is not ready.
Just because there's screenshots and gameplay trailers doesn't mean that the game is in running condition already. Let's take Final Fantasy XV for example. Development of the game started in 2006 (man, we're old, the development started as KH2 came out in the west!) Through development constraints, shelving and all, the game was reintroduced at E3 2013 alongside Kingdom Hearts III. Fast forward to September 2014, when Nomura stepped down as the director for FFXV, Tabata took over, and development went full swing until it was released in November 2016. During that Nomura-Tabata directorship transition period, would you still think that Tabata carried on Nomura's vision of a Final Fantasy game? NO. The moment Nomura stepped down, Tabata already changed MOST of Nomura's works on Final Fantasy XV. As a result, FFXV technically only had a 2-year development cycle. As a result, there are major plot points, lots of crashes. They even announced that they'll add cutscenes that will fill in plot holes in later updates... THAT THING SHOULDN'T HAPPEN... AT ALL! [1]
See what my message there? Over the span of two short years of development time, SE was able to launch a game that is practically, incomplete. Kingdom Hearts III does not have a 10-year or a 2-year development cycle... Development started in 2012, right around the release of Kingdom Hearts 3D. and the reveal trailer you saw at E3 2013? That was all CGI. None of it was on Luminous engine or Unreal Engine 4. That was CGI. If you really want KH3 now, expect a de ja vu of what happened on FFXV. Period.
Complaint No. 2: For "KH Fans", Quality < Quantity.
This ties in well with my complaint no. 1. Ever since KH2, SE was not able to top the quality of the game that KH2 had. Days had this weird panel system, and the plot if kinda meh, Birth by Sleep is where they experimented (and failed miserably) on Command Style, then expanded the series more and confused people further, Re:Coded was meh if it weren't for the fact that its basically a refresher of KH1 and Re:CoM, 3D was just... TIME TRAVEL WOOHOO!!!!! and there's the abomination that is chi/Unchained chi... like, the series probably could stand alone without chi/Ux, but since the probability that everything regarding x/Ux will have its major connections on KH3, we have no other choice but to play it... or not, if you're not up to the cash-grab mechanics of the game... It has come to the point where people really just wants KH3 that they have zero idea what's going on with the lore.
Here's another point... 1.5 and 2.5... I appreciate the HD remasters but they're an outright abomination port-wise. Crashes, gameplay imbalances, they're shit, to be blunt. and people shrug it off like the remaster is perfect. The fact that people shrug the remaster's problems off is a concrete point that these so-called "fans" want more games, but not quality games. To quote Soraalam1 here: [2]
"...and the community is way too busy crying about a Kingdom Hearts 3 release date that they don't even care about the quality of the products that are being released to them to cause some kind of uproar or movement"
If 2.8 comes out and its another case of 1.5 and 2.5, the hopes of KH3 being an actual good game will get slimmer by the minute.
Complaint No. 3: Y U H8 Speedruns?
It has come to my attention that there are a group of people that hates KH speedruns... why? Why do you hate on a hobby that people have picked up? Is it because "they're breaking my game"? Oh please, grow up, there's barely any major glitch on KH series, I can probably count the glitches that speedrunners use here, and most of these aren't even actual glitches, more like exploits:
1. 1.5's Damage Storage Glitch
2. KH2FM/2.5's Cavern of Remembrance Skip
3. 2.5's BBSFM LV1 rebalance
4. Re:Coded's Game Over Stat Upgrade
Most of these aren't even glitches, they're just exploits used... are they mad just because they can finish a game faster than others? Is that even a point to be mad about? They're probably not blatantly mad about you whining about rushing a KH3 release, but y'all are complaining about speedrunners. Pssh... Grow up.
Complaint No. 4: You unappreciative son of a b.
When Nomura made the year-end thank you video, the comments on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter pages are just... plain jane cancer, maybe even stage 4. Instead of thanking Nomura back for a great KH series they're all "KH3! KH3! Where's my KH3? Enough of the side-games, just give us KH3!" It resonates up till now, when the english KH pages are uploading pictures that hypes up the game via FB, Twitter and Instagram. I have no words, just... *facepalms* just shut the firetruck up you unappreciative sons of bitches.
There's my complaints, what's yours? Sound off in the comments!
Sources:
[1] http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1233181 - Its a rumor, but it turned out that the majority of that went true.
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