http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101012/ap_on_re_us/us_gays_in_military

 

For those of you who don't know, here's part of the wiki article.

Don't ask, don't tell (DADT) is the common term for the policy restricting the United States military from efforts to discover or reveal closeted gay, lesbian, and bisexual servicemembers or applicants, while barring those who are openly gay, lesbian, or bisexual from military service. The restrictions are mandated by federal law Pub.L. 103-160 (10 U.S.C.

That's good. I never really found it a problem though. If no one asks and no one tells the subject never comes up.

This is good.

 

It's not like Gay people join the Army to have a relationship with the other soldiers, they join for the same reason straight people do, to serve their country.

 

But really I could rage about this for pages apon pages, so I'll just leave it at that.

I agree, it's good that "Don't ask, Don't tell" is stopped but if you think from the perspective of the military...there are a lot of Americans who openly hate gays/lesbians/bisexuals and would probably give them a hard time if they joined. Fighting within an army makes it even harder to fight their enemy, so I guess they decided to just play on the safe side. Stupid, but they really thought it was better.

 

Either way, it should never have been a problem in the first place. Anyone who wants to join the army should be able to join; sexuality really doesn't have anything to do with it.

Well despite the whole 'some people dislike gays/lesbians/bisexuals' it creates a really uncomfortable environment in the barracks and in a combat situation. There needs to be a whole unit cohesion thing in order for these men and women to be able to fight, and if one of the soldiers in the unit is gay or lesbian, then that creates a whole level of discomfort that would distract in combat and prevent group closeness. (I'm not the greatest at explaining things, but I'm pretty sure that's the gist of how my father explained it to me.)

fool. first prejudices on skin colors. Then prejudices on gays. What's next?

Well despite the whole 'some people dislike gays/lesbians/bisexuals' it creates a really uncomfortable environment in the barracks and in a combat situation. There needs to be a whole unit cohesion thing in order for these men and women to be able to fight, and if one of the soldiers in the unit is gay or lesbian, then that creates a whole level of discomfort that would distract in combat and prevent group closeness. (I'm not the greatest at explaining things, but I'm pretty sure that's the gist of how my father explained it to me.)

 

Not to be rude, but that's utterly ridiculous. The only people who would be be opposed to this are people who suffer from homophobia.

 

Well despite the whole 'some people dislike gays/lesbians/bisexuals' it creates a really uncomfortable environment in the barracks and in a combat situation. There needs to be a whole unit cohesion thing in order for these men and women to be able to fight, and if one of the soldiers in the unit is gay or lesbian, then that creates a whole level of discomfort that would distract in combat and prevent group closeness. (I'm not the greatest at explaining things, but I'm pretty sure that's the gist of how my father explained it to me.)

 

Not to be rude, but that's utterly ridiculous. The only people who would be be opposed to this are people who suffer from homophobia.

 

*Sighs* I'm not going to fight with you about this. Let's just agree to disagree. And no, you're not being rude. You believe what you want to believe, and I'll believe what I want to believe. ^^

Gays should be able to serve their country right?

I mean, sure some people would be uncomfortable but overall they should just bury the hatchet and come together to work to their common goal and protect the country they love.

I don't think they'd focus on how uncomfortable it'd be in the barracks or in combat.

You're not gonna think about if the gay guy is checking you out while you dodge bullets, right?

They wouldn't be distracted in my opinion. They'd forget that the person was gay or lesbian and treat them like any other comrade.

So I'm glad that DADT was repealed. It stopped open gays from serving their country, no matter how much they wanted to. No one should be forced to hide their sexuality.

@LadyKoko Yes, they should be able to serve, but they should not have the right to be open about it. And while they may not 'focus on it' during combat, the unease will still be there. Don't Ask, Don't tell needs to be reinstated, as soon as possible. Gosh, when I joined this site, I didn't expect to have to put up with all this homosexual rights stuff. T.T

I don't think gays should have to hide in the closet to serve there country that's just not right

 

No one should be forced to hide their sexuality.

 

And I mean it, it's like when we were all so racist against the blacks and they couldn't serve in the army either because of their skin tone. You can't tell them "Oh you can't be openly black if you want to join the army". It's the same thing. It's wrong.

There will be people who think it needs to be reinstated. And I guess I kind of see your point but honestly, those people are being outright close minded.

Let's put it this way. If we lived in a world were it was right to be gay and wrong to be straight, and you weren't allowed in the army because you were openly straight, would you enjoy that? Having to pretend you're something your not and people discriminating you because of that.

You need to see it from both sides, not just one.

DADT wasn't something outright terrible, I'll admit that. Some gays could be fine with it or careless. Some probably don't even see a difference now that it's revoked.

It'll be the same as before basically. No one is going to ask if you're gay anyway. What kind of question would that be? And it isn't like they're going to go around trying to hook up with someone while on duty.

Gosh, when I joined this site, I didn't expect to have to put up with all this homosexual rights stuff. T.T

 

that made me lol considering a; you clicked on this thread knowing what is was about b; you're the one posting here, no one else was trying to argue, you just came in and went "THIS IS WRONG BECAUSE ___ BUT I DONT WANT TO ARGUE, LEMME GO DISAGREE WITH ANOTHER POST THO" and c; welcome to the world, you're going to have to deal.

 

& should we start protesting straight men being in the military because they might make the women feel uncomfortable? no, because we would call those women stupid and paranoid if they think a man would think of that during warfare. just throwing that out there.

 

 

im honestly glad this has been repealed. it wasnt a problem in historic great armies /spartaaswasreferencedbyibelievefred/ so it really shouldn't be a big deal who someone decides to sleep with when they're fighting for their country.

fool. first prejudices on skin colors. Then prejudices on gays. What's next?

 

This. I agree with this.

 

To keep a long rant short, I believe there is nothing wrong with gays. And any soldier who fears that they'll get butt raped in the middle of the night by their buddy just because they're gay has got some issues to sort out.

 

If a homosexual has the guts to head out to the front-lines, then they should be able to do so. I say this because I have actually heard people say that they would probably chicken out when they got there because they are gay, which is entirely false. (I this find ironic, seeing as how straight people have done the same thing!) Just because a guy is a homosexual, doesn't mean they're whimpy. =/

First the whole " Black vs white thing" now this. wow what's next? You aren't american if u have an accent?

 

 

 

@LadyKoko Yes, they should be able to serve, but they should not have the right to be open about it. And while they may not 'focus on it' during combat, the unease will still be there. Don't Ask, Don't tell needs to be reinstated, as soon as possible. Gosh, when I joined this site, I didn't expect to have to put up with all this homosexual rights stuff. T.T

 

Dude u clicked on the thread u cant say u didnt know it was talking about gay rights. And everyone deserves the right to be "open" they have a right to their sexuality. It's like i can't say im Italian. I AM Italian, but i cant be open about it.

but they should not have the right to be open about it. And while they may not 'focus on it' during combat, the unease will still be there. Don't Ask, Don't tell needs to be reinstated, as soon as possible. Gosh, when I joined this site, I didn't expect to have to put up with all this homosexual rights stuff. T.T

 

Are you seriously saying that I shouldn't be allowed to express who I am because it make's some people nervous?

 

And in case you were unaware, there are quite a few gay members on this site, you can't go around saying those things man.