Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Except notKH2 is Sora looking for Riku and King Mickey, but there is more under the surface. Heartless are still attacking and nobodies are now also a threat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 We kinda fooled around in disney worlds in 2, with our only real excuse being "Find all our friends".. obviously, for this series, that's a good goal in of itself.But we basically would slip into china or africa and go "OH, guess we're here to help out now"KH1 probably did it best and made it feel all relevant, though,obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH-Queen 13 Posted April 21, 2019 Actually yeah LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Since we had the.. council o evil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 There is also the organization, who acts as a force of mistery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 So.. just like KH3, with the seekers of darkness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Except in KH3 they tell their plans right away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Right.. because we new that since DDD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Like, as soon as Marluxia meets Sora he spills the beans"We want to make sure the princesses are safe""Oh, ok" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH-Queen 13 Posted April 21, 2019 Well in a way we kinda figured what the org was up to in KH2 XDDD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Not that KH2 is a masterpiece of story telling anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Well, a thing to note here... it's weird how,speciically, it was only Marluxia and Larxene doing that, honestly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 KH2 is also rough in its plotA lot of filler and scenes that go nowhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH-Queen 13 Posted April 21, 2019 Ellie you bring up a good point :0 about marly and larxeneYeah kh2 def has those Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 But differently from KH3, the key point is that it's not aimless"Finding my friends" is a more concrete goal than "let's try getting this power I don't even know how to obtain"There's a clear emotional connection that carries on from previous games and directly ties to the main plot because for the first half of KH2 it is the main plotMeanwhile in KH3 you have this weird stale mate where the org can't really do anything to Sora and the princesses because their goal is to make sure they are safeSo their roles in the plot have basically no stakesIt's basically them setting up for the B-plan that never becomes necessaryAnother thing to account for is escalationAs KH2's plot progress we discover more and more details about the organization's plan, and new developments in the story happenWe discover who the leader of the organization is, we find out what exactly the King is up to, and we find out the plot twist of XehanortMeanwhile KH3 has no information escalation, the amount of knowledge we have at the beginning is the same we have at the end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Alright, yeah. That makes sense.. But there were stakes here in KH3 with Xehanort reforming it all with KH3. and KH3 was set up for escalation in part due to BbS and DDD, if you keep thoe in mind. As for the power of waking, sure.. Sora dind't have much to go on, but I think Yen sid's point on sending Sora out was to basically spark some kind of connection in Sora in regards to it.. Olympus did this best with it's messsage of wanting to protect/save someone with all your heart/will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Yeah, the problem is that themes can't really carry the narrative Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 They did for 1 and Re:com, didn't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 The message is nice but it never becomes relevant to the storyNot at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 I would think otherwise, honestly, or else the endings sequences of those two probably wouldn't feel as memorable as they did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Kingdom Hearts had strong themes and that's a benefit, but those themes had a well written story on its baseThemes can definitely enhance a story, no one will dispute thatThat's the catch with objective analysis, actually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amaterasu_1549906707 19 Posted April 21, 2019 Kh2's themes, while i'm not entirely sure on it, feel like it's about being distant and scattered(going off of the boxart and ow everyone is looking off in multiple directions) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estoria#4001 19 Posted April 21, 2019 It doesn't exactly brush up on themes because themes resonate differently with peopleBut that's what I love about KH1It's a well written story with strong themes and emotional set ups and resolutions that complement it extremely wellThat's why it has my favorite story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites