There is something that has been bugging me for awhile. At the end of days, when Namine and Xion had their little talk and Xion revealed that she knew Roxas would have to come back to Sora just like her. Did she want Roxas to come back to Sora, or did she want Roxas to be informed of the whole situation and be given a choice just like Riku did for her? She did ask Namine and Riku to look after Roxas once she was gone, presumably the same way Riku did for her and she apparently knew that Roxas would be able to sense Sora once she herself was gone so he would be able to understand the whole thing better. She also did seem to commit suicide by losing to Roxas, which the lines like "You will be better of now, Roxas", and "It was my choice to go away", her making Riku and Namine promise to look after Roxas once she was gone (when she made Namine promise that, she said that she asked someone else to, which would be most likely Riku), and her entrusting Roxas with the promise to set kingdom hearts free seems to indicate which would support the whole giving him a choice thing, since defeating Roxas and absorbing him would make completing Sora a whole lot easier, since she herself could then go back and be absorbed by Sora. I also have heard that it was written in a secret report that the whole wanting to absorb him thing was a ruse or something similar, but I can't find that one (or maybe I'm not noticing that one, can someone please tell me where I can find that secret report?). I do think she wanted for Roxas to have a choice in the whole thing, but part of me is afraid that it is not and I can't shake it off. It is bugging me. The reason why is that it would than just seem like she is dehumanizing one of her closest friend if she insists that he would have to give up his individuality, identity and freedom whether he wants to or not, especially since Riku did give her the time to think about the whole thing and let her decide on her own. It would then just come off as her thinking off Roxas, her friend who has his own identity thoughts and feelings, as more disposable than Sora, a guy she didn't even speak to, and I hate that because they are supposed to be friends, that's how the story presents them. I don't want her saying that Roxas should go back whether he wants to or not, because that would sour their whole friendship to me, and I would never be able to look at it the same way again. I don't want that to be the case, it would just be difficult to stomach for me. I am not counting her saying that Riku should stop Roxas or her saying that Roxas shouldn't be sad at day 358 since Roxas was going on a suicide mission then, she probably didn't expect him to be reckless enough to just walk in and going on a rampage (grief definitely played a role there) and her saying that Roxas shouldn't be sad just seems like her trying to comfort Roxas. I don't think she wanted Roxas to be forced to fuse back with Sora against his will, but I want conformation.

Maybe it's just me being a Roxas fanboy (it makes me very biased and can very easily blind me, which might be why I write everything down here), but while I can understand why Riku, who is Sora's best friend and barely knows Roxas personally, and Namine, who was mistreated by the organization and was treated with kindness by Sora after that despite the fact that she rewrote his memories, would be willing to reluctantly sacrifice Roxas, I have a hard time understanding why Xion, Roxas' best friend, would want to do that for a person she didn't even speak to if this is indeed the case. Can someone please explain it.

As Xion told Naminé, she believed Roxas should also return to Sora, but he had no way of understanding it yet. I think she trusts that once he understood he'd make the right choice and return to Sora. Xion understands that this would be the right choice because Sora had no fault in their situation: She felt it in her heart that both she and Roxas belonged back with him. She also knew that Roxas was completely out in the whole subject, he had no idea who he was, why he was there, who Sora really was...  Xion wanted to give him his time to discover these things about himself and make that decision, just like she did.

And once Naminé explains it to him, and he gets face to face with Sora, he does understand and make the choice to return.

Xion didn't really want to absorb Roxas at the end, but if she didn't act hostile, Roxas would hold himself back. I think this is clear because, logically, there's no way Roxas could have beaten her when she had absorbed most of his power and was amplified by the Organization Devices, plus whatever Xemnas did to her in day 356 (Which still isn't really clear, and may be the answer to why she attacked Roxas at all; Maybe she was ordered to by Xemnas and had no say in the matter). 

Xion knew that by absorbing Roxas, she'd play right into Xemnas's plan and make it impossible for Sora to wake up, which is why she chose to hold herself back until Roxas defeated her. This isn't explained in a secret report, but can be inferred by context (And perhaps it's confirmed in an interview or something).

Xion believed that Roxas belonged with Sora too, not out of cruelty towards him, but because she knew Sora was their true self, and he needed them both to return to him in order to wake up. She believed this would make them whole (although this sentiment wouldn't really be accurate later own, as we learned they still suffered due to not being able to be their own people). She also wanted Roxas to foil Xemnas's plans of completing Kingdom Hearts, but I don't think she expected Roxas to go on a literal suicide mission into The World That Never Was, which is why she calls out to Riku during their fight and pleads him to stop him (she knew he wouldn't survive it).

On 8/21/2020 at 9:50 AM, Kinode said:

As Xion told Naminé, she believed Roxas should also return to Sora, but he had no way of understanding it yet. I think she trusts that once he understood he'd make the right choice and return to Sora. Xion understands that this would be the right choice because Sora had no fault in their situation: She felt it in her heart that both she and Roxas belonged back with him. She also knew that Roxas was completely out in the whole subject, he had no idea who he was, why he was there, who Sora really was...  Xion wanted to give him his time to discover these things about himself and make that decision, just like she did.

And once Naminé explains it to him, and he gets face to face with Sora, he does understand and make the choice to return.

Xion didn't really want to absorb Roxas at the end, but if she didn't act hostile, Roxas would hold himself back. I think this is clear because, logically, there's no way Roxas could have beaten her when she had absorbed most of his power and was amplified by the Organization Devices, plus whatever Xemnas did to her in day 356 (Which still isn't really clear, and may be the answer to why she attacked Roxas at all; Maybe she was ordered to by Xemnas and had no say in the matter). 

Xion knew that by absorbing Roxas, she'd play right into Xemnas's plan and make it impossible for Sora to wake up, which is why she chose to hold herself back until Roxas defeated her. This isn't explained in a secret report, but can be inferred by context (And perhaps it's confirmed in an interview or something).

Xion believed that Roxas belonged with Sora too, not out of cruelty towards him, but because she knew Sora was their true self, and he needed them both to return to him in order to wake up. She believed this would make them whole (although this sentiment wouldn't really be accurate later own, as we learned they still suffered due to not being able to be their own people). She also wanted Roxas to foil Xemnas's plans of completing Kingdom Hearts, but I don't think she expected Roxas to go on a literal suicide mission into The World That Never Was, which is why she calls out to Riku during their fight and pleads him to stop him (she knew he wouldn't survive it).

If it is the case with you answer, than I'm glad that she would want him to find the answers and make the decision instead of being forced into it, and her asking to Riku and Namine to watch over Roxas did save their friendship for me. But I don't think her absorbing Roxas would make it impossible to wake Sora up, since Namine offered to return Xion to Sora during their talk, just like she would eventually end up doing to Roxas in 2, and I don't see how she would be able to return a Roxas who absorbed Xion and not a Xion who absorbed Roxas. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I hope that I will be finding other answers in here. I would be interested to hear them.

 

To be honest, the more I start to think about the whole thing, the more I find the whole thing about Roxas belonging to Sora because he is their true self to be wrong actually, even without coded and Dream Drop Distance. I can't deny one thing: it would be unfair for Sora to be in a coma forever, but it would be unfair for Roxas and Xion to give up their own identity, freedom and individuality. Sora may have been where they came from, but Roxas and Xion had developed their own identities, their own thoughts and their own beliefs. It doesn't matter if Sora was their true self, they lived separate from him and lived their own lives. It was Roxas who freed Tinkerbell from captain Hook, not Sora, it was Roxas who fought Leechgrave, not Sora, it was Xion who left sea shells for Roxas, not Sora. And they didn't become whole again, Sora became whole again, while they were stuck inside of him. He was the one in the driver seat, and even if fusing with him is becoming whole again, I don't see any point in doing that when it would just reduce you to a prisoner. Even Riku recognized this, since he asked Namine if it was possible to just take Sora's memories without taking Roxas and Xion. He recognized that they were not extensions of Sora, but their own individuals, and that it would be wrong to forcefully fuse them with Sora. He only did it because between the 3 of them, only 1 of them could live, and Sora was his best friend. And he tried to be as nice about it as possible. He tried to peacefully convince Xion to come along, because he recognized that it was a heavy sacrifice. That is why I want Xion to want Roxas to make the choice instead of being forced into it. And the one reason why Namine couldn't do it was because it would take a long time, and DiZ wouldn't like that, which would imply that they would be willing to take the extra time because of how wrong it is. Though I'm thankful for your answer. I'm glad Xion wanted Roxas to understand the whole thing and make the choice. This and her asking Namine and Riku saved their friendship for me.

i imagine there was a difference between what she wanted to happen and what she thought needed to happen

On 8/22/2020 at 11:39 AM, ocean's rage said:

i imagine there was a difference between what she wanted to happen and what she thought needed to happen

Good point. Can't argue here