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I don't know, I would argue those are also FF elements just in different ways

It depends but, I think it can get subjective

Like for example, the lack of elemental weaknesses I'd say is an RPG element not specifically an FF one, you know?

Yeah but Malboro causing you to be in a really bad situation with Bad Breath is an FF one

FF16 feels very FF in some senses. In its gameplay loop it does not. I've touched on this many times already and don't want to dive into it again, but its story and characters were very FF imo

Like yeah it's a small thing but I would count that

Oh no that's valid, the little things matter the most sometimes

guys guys guys guys

Also parties are a huge thing in FF game, this is the first one to completely abandon it

I realized sth

Especially in RPG's where the little things are what complete the whole thing

Is this good for KH4 that Rebirth is so well received?

Uhhh

no

Yeah and since 15 only had 5, And SOP has 1 but AI control 3 (but with 5 in total)-

I wouldn't say it's good or bad

wait Tea what?

KH has always done it's own thing and will continue to do that

Like yeah I get Nomura is on both

But I don't think it will matter

I should have specified I meant mainline games as the side ones always do something different

I just wonder if Nomura can use all the stuff they have learned from Remake and Rebirth and uses it in KH

But yeah FF15 is only 4 but there is a lot of stuff you can do with them

You can command them, you can equip stuff on them, they do their own stuff that helps you out

Tea here's a lesson that I learned the hard way when Birth By Sleep came out.

The biggest thing that holds Kingdom Hearts back in the eyes of critics, casuals, and even fans of the franchise, is the fact that it's Kingdom Hearts

FF16 has Torgal that just has three commands and can't even be used in the final boss fight

man the title of the german ff7 review is so funny "even FF7 Rebirth fails in terms of open world but the rest is nice"

KH can have a gripping story, great mechanics, fun characters, do everything a good game, and FF game does, but

"It's the edgy anime game with Donald Duck!"

"Sora! It's Sephiroth!"

"Say fellas, did someone mention the door to darkness?"

We're never going to win, is what I'm saying lmao

KH is a series it took 18 years and Gen Z getting their hands on it to coming CLOSE to being as appreciated as it always should have been.

Yeah but he's like the best character in the game so it's fine lol

Nomura can only take so much knowledge from working on FF7R for KH. They're different teams and devs and franchises. It's like saying "damn NEO TWEWY was so good, Balan Wonderworld is gonna be fantastic"

OH MY GOD DUDE

hey are you a hammer?

Cause you smacked that nail on the head.