could the red eye creature from the latest trailer be ventus heartless. Here is what I think: when Sora released his heart in KH1 he released his own heart and Ventus heart, creating 2 nobody and 2 heartless. Roxas is confused to be Sora's nobody even by Organization 13, naming him after Sora, but could he be Ventus's nobody. In the secret ending of birth by sleep final mix, we see ventus's body in castle oblivion disappearing. Did he disappear when Sora stabbed himself? We also see Sora's heartless when Kairi tried to protect him, but I think it was destroyed. Then Sora returned hugging Kairi, but here is the problem, I thought the somebody of a person only returned when a person's heartless and nobody was destroyed, but when did Sora's nobody was destroyed in Hollow Bastion? Could the Sora we play as after the vents of Hollow Bastion, CoM, KH2, and KH3d really be Sora's nobody. Roxas is now gone which means that Ventus nobody is gone. Now all that's left is to eliminate Ventus heartless and Sora's nobody so that their somebody's could return. Mr. Red Eyes could not be Sora's nobody, because only heartless that have evolved have either yellow round eyes, or red round eyes, so that only lead to Ventus's heartless. About Vanitas, I think he merged Terranort. When Sora sees Vanitas in the church, Young Xehanort has the same smile and gestures of Vanitas, but with Terra's power, and Xehanort tan skin and yellow eyes. He could also be only Xehaort and Vanitas fused without Terra, but then where could Terra be? Well this is my opinion, so please do not start hating on my specualtions. If you think I am wrong just say it nicely please. Thanks for listening.

 

 

FACT ..kairis a princess of heart and namine is a special nobody that is a nobody derived despite the usual guidelines for nobody. Namine doesnt have a physical body .... This has been stated Several times in games and is CANNON...GAME SET MATCH

 

look from a interview with nomura himself just saying. Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297?

 

A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint. Will gladly send you the link lmao just saying its possible don't count that out

look from a interview with nomura himself just saying. Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297?

 

A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint. Will gladly send you the link lmao just saying its possible don't count that out

 

Both Sora and Ventus make up Roxas. He has Sora's body and soul, with Ventus' heart inside him. This does NOT make him Ventus' Nobody.

Both Sora and Ventus make up Roxas. He has Sora's body and soul, with Ventus' heart inside him. This does NOT make him Ventus' Nobody.

 

THIS..exactly

Both Sora and Ventus make up Roxas. He has Sora's body and soul, with Ventus' heart inside him. This does NOT make him Ventus' Nobody.

 

Thats what I stated before

look from a interview with nomura himself just saying. Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297?

 

A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint. Will gladly send you the link lmao just saying its possible don't count that out

 

Once again its not possible..Roxas is SORAS nobody plus VENS heart..You arent presenting any evidence that says hes vens NOBODY..This interview was stating that bc Roxas was near both his heart and vens Body thats why he faints... When are you going to realize you are wrong..Seriously i thought u made progress in the last thread but i guess not....this post is bad and you should feel bad fail

Once again its not possible..Roxas is SORAS nobody plus VENS heart..You arent presenting any evidence that says hes vens NOBODY..This interview was stating that bc Roxas was near both his heart and vens Body thats why he faints... When are you going to realize you are wrong..Seriously i thought u made progress in the last thread but i guess not....this post is bad and you should feel bad fail

 

dont feel bad some people learn differently

I don't know guys if he is soras body and soul with ventus is heart does that even make him a nobody??? Isn't a nobody body and soul of someone with the absence of a heart?? Not trying to argue just on a quest for knowledge lol

It takes more then the thoughts of some adolescent girl to make me feel bad

lol

I don't know guys if he is soras body and soul with ventus is heart does that even make him a nobody??? Isn't a nobody body and soul of someone with the absence of a heart?? Not trying to argue just on a quest for knowledge lol

 

Hes a special nobody just like Namine is just in a different manner..He's a nobody bc his own heart is gone but hes got another heart residing thats not his bodys

It takes more then the thoughts of some adolescent girl to make me feel bad

lol

 

You should feel bad bc you still dont know wtf you are talking bout after its been proven time and time again with proof after proof. These arent my thought its cannon

And the reason for the post was not to present evidence that he is vens nobody but to present evidence that he's not necessarily soras nodody either

And the reason for the post was not to present evidence that he is vens nobody but to present evidence that he's not necessarily soras nodody either

 

Wait what? That doesnt make sense

And the reason for the post was not to present evidence that he is vens nobody but to present evidence that he's not necessarily soras nodody either

 

And yet you are still wrong..Hes soras nobody period. FACT..He consists of Soras physical body ..a Nobody is the physical body of the person. He just happens to have Vens heart..That doesnt change the fact hes soras BODY thus NOBODY

 

 

You should feel bad bc you still dont know wtf you are talking bout after its been proven time and time again with proof after proof. These arent my thought its cannon

 

your the one content on just trying to bash me lol I just presented some thing and you could hold back from getting personal and you called me juvenile lmao posted something when your shirt fills in a little more lmao

your the one content on just trying to bash me lol I just presented some thing and you could hold back from getting personal and you called me juvenile lmao posted something when your shirt fills in a little more lmao

 

No I see her trying to correct you, yet your taking your OPINION as fact and are trying to make people believe it is

 

 

Wait what? That doesnt make sense

 

it makes sense in this context"I'm trying to say that roxas is something more then just a nobody" if you don't see it that way its fine idc but say that not try to insult or get personal and no offense to you CLIPSE but I forget I'm dealing with a lot of children on this site

your the one content on just trying to bash me lol I just presented some thing and you could hold back from getting personal and you called me juvenile lmao posted something when your shirt fills in a little more lmao

 

Try a diffferent strategy here general..Im 18 ive had boobs for years.. You are the one who is the one who cant handle that you are proven wrong ..Come back when you know what you are talking about .. You are juvenile..Look how you act .I rest my case

it makes sense in this context"I'm trying to say that roxas is something more then just a nobody" if you don't see it that way its fine idc but say that not try to insult or get personal and no offense to you CLIPSE but I forget I'm dealing with a lot of children on this site

 

Your taking things personal lol please stop being a hypocrite, if someone gives you facts and or corrects you do not act like your not wrong accept it and everything is fine

 

 

No I see her trying to correct you, yet your taking your OPINION as fact and are trying to make people believe it is

 

I'm not forcing my opinion on no one I'm just bringing up a very broad subject to look into a little further if you feel its not worth talking about then just don't post to it that's what I meant by kids is that they can't help but to post something without making it personal lol

No I see her trying to correct you, yet your taking your OPINION as fact and are trying to make people believe it is

 

Thank you !! But hes too blind to see that i wasnt being personal but just correcting him for the 10000x since yesterday on two different threads.This is rediculous

I'm not forcing my opinion on no one I'm just bringing up a very broad subject to look into a little further if you feel its not worth talking about then just don't post to it that's what I meant by kids is that they can't help but to post something without making it personal lol

 

No one said it was personal, and there are points in your post where you was trying to force your opinion as fact, even when people gave you proof that it was fact, and calling people children does not make you look like the better person

Thank you !! But hes too blind to see that i wasnt being personal but just correcting him for the 10000x since yesterday on two different threads.This is rediculous

 

I tried correcting him today

 

 

Your taking things personal lol please stop being a hypocrite, if someone gives you facts and or corrects you do not act like your not wrong accept it and everything is fine

 

I did lol lea said it herself but found that in an interview posted to see wat people thought of it and here come the attacks lol

I don't know guys if he is soras body and soul with ventus is heart does that even make him a nobody??? Isn't a nobody body and soul of someone with the absence of a heart?? Not trying to argue just on a quest for knowledge lol

 

Here let me break it down for you so this doesn't go any further when a person with a strong heart falls to darkness or loses their heart,that heart becomes a heartless. The body and soul that is left behind develops it's own will and becomes a nobody .These are the normal conditions in which the two are formed. When a heartless and nobody are formed by one with of an extremely powerful will and heart they are able to retain their human form. So far only Apprentice Xehanort and Sora are capable of this. Now when Sora became a heartless(shadow) he was able to keep his memories and consciousness when Kairi aproached him she was able to create a temporary shell for him to use(note sora is still a heartless but has a human appearance) this is waht he used until he merged with roxas. Now the body and soul was that was left behind roxas was born. Now when Sora lost his heart he had within him Kairi's, Ventus, and his own heart when he realeased them Sora's heart became a heartless, Kairi' heart returned to her body and Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body. Roxas and namine were both born at that moment (namine using Sora's body as an intermediary.) and Because Ven's heart was still in Sora's body when he was born Roxas took the appearance of Ventus(the heart will always shape the vessell). This is why Roxas,Namine, and Xemnas are classified as special nobodies because they essentially are nobodies but were born with or by qualities that would classify them as otherwise.

LMAO your Avatar... Poor goldfish tho ;o;

This thread became an opinion fight though >>

That said I doubt Red Eyes black Coat is a heartless.