I know it's been around for like 10 years now but still, some minor spoilers. When Rinoa is hanging off the garden they're all just like 'omg Squall y u no go help Rinoa' and use peer pressure to get him to help her when that's just stupid because there are other people dying around them as well. And then when there's no one else in need of help and squall just wants to go to help Rinoa they're all like 'omg Squall that's just plain rude listen to Edea' to be honest they're all just stupid

Because Rinoa secretly loves Squall and likes to grab his attention in the most annoying way possible. She isn't a SeeD as well, remember that.

Because Rinoa secretly loves Squall and likes to grab his attention in the most annoying way possible. She isn't a SeeD as well, remember that.

 

This and vice versa. whether or not he knew it yet is irrelevant. Not to mention they all considered each other family and welcomed Rinoa as a part of it. Plus they truly believe squall was the only one capable of saving her. VIII is my favorite game of all time. Dont hate, appreciate

This and vice versa. whether or not he knew it yet is irrelevant. Not to mention they all considered each other family and welcomed Rinoa as a part of it. Plus they truly believe squall was the only one capable of saving her. VIII is my favorite game of all time. Dont hate, appreciate

 

Which got everything from VII, the REAL best game of all time. Appreciate that.

Because the other members of his team knew that Squall was supposed to be her knight in shining armor and could sense what was building between him and Rinoa. It should have been obvious to save her in their perspective.

Which got everything from VII, the REAL best game of all time. Appreciate that.

 

To start off that's your opinion and I respect that. I didn't say anything about best. I said it was my favorite. And if you want to be technical VII and VIII got everything from their predecessors all the way back to the first one which in itself is a marvel of a game. And lastly, if you want MY opinion, VII was a good play overall but the character development was seriously lacking which was the thing that I appreciated the most about VIII..

To start off that's your opinion and I respect that. I didn't say anything about best. I said it was my favorite. And if you want to be technical VII and VIII got everything from their predecessors all the way back to the first one which in itself is a marvel of a game. And lastly, if you want MY opinion, VII was a good play overall but the character development was seriously lacking which was the thing that I appreciated the most about VIII..

 

IK, I was joking. IV's my favorite anyway. The only problem I have is when VIII fans come on VII sites and bitch about how VIII sold more, yada yada yada. Except for a couple of characters in VII, I forget most of them/didn't care about them. VII is pretty much overrated.

IK, I was joking. IV's my favorite anyway. The only problem I have is when VIII fans come on VII sites and bitch about how VIII sold more, yada yada yada. Except for a couple of characters in VII, I forget most of them/didn't care about them. VII is pretty much overrated.

 

Well, I'm not that kind of fan. A game's measure cant be judged by how many units it sold. In any case, IV was great also.

Well, I'm not that kind of fan. A game's measure cant be judged by how many units it sold. In any case, IV was great also.

 

It seems I'm the only one who LOVED V.

It seems I'm the only one who LOVED V.

 

V was hilarious. Exdeath wasn't much of a villain though in my opinion.

V was hilarious. Exdeath wasn't much of a villain though in my opinion.

 

Wha? Well, he was a tree. So, I couldn't take him seriously.

It seems I'm the only one who LOVED V.

 

V was hilarious. Exdeath wasn't much of a villain though in my opinion.

 

Wha? Well, he was a tree. So, I couldn't take him seriously.

 

You 2 are going to the Void for not knowing that V is my favorite. BI

 

Oh, and Lrn2Gilgamesh.

 

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It is indeed extremely awesome when Zell runs up to Squall at that point and tells him to go save Rinoa. Squall points out that he's the god damn leader, it's his responsibility to oversee and repel the invasion. It's his job to get the priorities straight and ensure the hundreds of students of Balamb are not harmed, it would be full on awesome to abandon his post to save one girl (whom he evidently has little to no attachment to at that point) and risk the dozens of lives that are in his hands. Since he seems to be the only character with a functioning brain he thinks it would make so much more sense to send someone else, like say one of the few dozen well trained magic wielding soldiers running around, or just call a bloody GF to do it. Zell's response? "Don't be so heartless". Then of course the rest of the team proceed to piss all over the chain of command and bully Squall into it, risking their job, home, lives and the lives of their allies just to save one girl whom they barely know, who could have easily been saved by anyone else in the vicinity and who, in any realistic scenario, would have been already dead by then. HOW ARE THESE RETARDS EVEN ALIVE.

 

Squall being in charge in the first place was stupid. Cid founded SeeD and clearly took pride in his life's work, yet at the first sign of trouble he claims Squall's in charge and runs off. Real manly move there, Cid. The love story at that point was non-existent. Don't give me this BS about having feelings for eachother and not knowing it yet, Squall was openly a dick to Rinoa and didn't care about her in the slightest. Rinoa had no reason to take an interest in him, quite the opposite actually.

 

But back to the Garden invasion, why didn't anyone call out GFs to help? The GFs raise so many questions alone. It is made clear that they are not only sentient, but can even talk too... so why do they help the main characters? What's in it for them? Where do they go when they're not summoned? Where did they come from in the first place and what exactly are they anyway? In VII summons were in materia and were simply a tool like the rest of the magic to be used by whoever had them. In IX they're sentient, immortal, worshipped godlike beings and choose to help Garnet defeat Bhrane/Kuja/Garland and stop them manipulating the souls of the dead. In X they're the spirits of the dead and chose to become Aeons to help summoners defeat Sin. But in VIII, although they play a vital role in the story and combat, they're just sort of... there. It had so much potential for a sidestory involving the GFs, or hell I'd be happy with just a short explanation of them, but we got nothing.

 

On top of that though, why doesn't everyone use GFs? And futhermore, how do so many enemies use magic and other abilities if they DON'T have a GF junctioned? JUST WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MEAN TO "JUNCTION" YOURSELF TO SOMETHING? How does one go about "junctioning" 40 Bio spells to their sword? In Ultemicia's case she physically fused with Griever, but that's not what happens with Squall and co. Since you can draw GFs from enemies I assume they're stored inside you when not in use and so is magic, but then how did GFs originally come about? Did someone, somewhere order Ifrit to live in that cave or the Brothers to live in that tomb? Where's there masters? What happens when their carrier dies? How does one store magic spells within themselves? Is magic a finite resource? So then where do people get it? Are you born with it?

 

SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. At least VII explained what Materia was and how it's formed. I don't know how anyone can call such a convoluted, half-finished mess good, let alone the best game of all time. Bloody hell.

It is indeed extremely awesome when Zell runs up to Squall at that point and tells him to go save Rinoa. Squall points out that he's the god damn leader, it's his responsibility to oversee and repel the invasion. It's his job to get the priorities straight and ensure the hundreds of students of Balamb are not harmed, it would be full on awesome to abandon his post to save one girl (whom he evidently has little to no attachment to at that point) and risk the dozens of lives that are in his hands. Since he seems to be the only character with a functioning brain he thinks it would make so much more sense to send someone else, like say one of the few dozen well trained magic wielding soldiers running around, or just call a bloody GF to do it. Zell's response? "Don't be so heartless". Then of course the rest of the team proceed to piss all over the chain of command and bully Squall into it, risking their job, home, lives and the lives of their allies just to save one girl whom they barely know, who could have easily been saved by anyone else in the vicinity and who, in any realistic scenario, would have been already dead by then. HOW ARE THESE RETARDS EVEN ALIVE.

 

Squall being in charge in the first place was stupid. Cid founded SeeD and clearly took pride in his life's work, yet at the first sign of trouble he claims Squall's in charge and runs off. Real manly move there, Cid. The love story at that point was non-existent. Don't give me this BS about having feelings for eachother and not knowing it yet, Squall was openly a dick to Rinoa and didn't care about her in the slightest. Rinoa had no reason to take an interest in him, quite the opposite actually.

 

But back to the Garden invasion, why didn't anyone call out GFs to help? The GFs raise so many questions alone. It is made clear that they are not only sentient, but can even talk too... so why do they help the main characters? What's in it for them? Where do they go when they're not summoned? Where did they come from in the first place and what exactly are they anyway? In VII summons were in materia and were simply a tool like the rest of the magic to be used by whoever had them. In IX they're sentient, immortal, worshipped godlike beings and choose to help Garnet defeat Bhrane/Kuja/Garland and stop them manipulating the souls of the dead. In X they're the spirits of the dead and chose to become Aeons to help summoners defeat Sin. But in VIII, although they play a vital role in the story and combat, they're just sort of... there. It had so much potential for a sidestory involving the GFs, or hell I'd be happy with just a short explanation of them, but we got nothing.

 

On top of that though, why doesn't everyone use GFs? And futhermore, how do so many enemies use magic and other abilities if they DON'T have a GF junctioned? JUST WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MEAN TO "JUNCTION" YOURSELF TO SOMETHING? How does one go about "junctioning" 40 Bio spells to their sword? In Ultemicia's case she physically fused with Griever, but that's not what happens with Squall and co. Since you can draw GFs from enemies I assume they're stored inside you when not in use and so is magic, but then how did GFs originally come about? Did someone, somewhere order Ifrit to live in that cave or the Brothers to live in that tomb? Where's there masters? What happens when their carrier dies? How does one store magic spells within themselves? Is magic a finite resource? So then where do people get it? Are you born with it?

 

SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. At least VII explained what Materia was and how it's formed. I don't know how anyone can call such a convoluted, half-finished mess good, let alone the best game of all time. Bloody hell.

 

I love you.

 

And, they also explained Trance in IX. Except they never really explained the Abilities in certain weapons, armor, etc. VI explained that Magic must be taught by equipping Magicite to certain characters. So, this guy has a very good point.

I love you.

 

And, they also explained Trance in IX. Except they never really explained the Abilities in certain weapons, armor, etc. VI explained that Magic must be taught by equipping Magicite to certain characters. So, this guy has a very good point.

 

The weapon abilities are gems that a character uses to bring out latent abilities in a weapon

It is indeed extremely awesome when Zell runs up to Squall at that point and tells him to go save Rinoa. Squall points out that he's the god damn leader, it's his responsibility to oversee and repel the invasion. It's his job to get the priorities straight and ensure the hundreds of students of Balamb are not harmed, it would be full on awesome to abandon his post to save one girl (whom he evidently has little to no attachment to at that point) and risk the dozens of lives that are in his hands. Since he seems to be the only character with a functioning brain he thinks it would make so much more sense to send someone else, like say one of the few dozen well trained magic wielding soldiers running around, or just call a bloody GF to do it. Zell's response? "Don't be so heartless". The individual has a face. It's like how if one person is killed, it's a tragedy, if an army of people die, it's a statistic. Then of course the rest of the team proceed to piss all over the chain of command and bully Squall into it, risking their job, home, lives and the lives of their allies just to save one girl whom they barely know, who could have easily been saved by anyone else in the vicinity and who, in any realistic scenario, would have been already dead by then. HOW ARE THESE RETARDS EVEN ALIVE. Rule of drama?

 

Squall being in charge in the first place was stupid. Cid founded SeeD and clearly took pride in his life's work, yet at the first sign of trouble he claims Squall's in charge and runs off. Real manly move there, Cid. So Cid isn't manly, what's your point? The love story at that point was non-existent. Blame bad writing Don't give me this BS about having feelings for eachother and not knowing it yet, Squall was openly a dick to Rinoa and didn't care about her in the slightest. Rinoa had no reason to take an interest in him, quite the opposite actually. Guys are dicks to girls all the time. A lot of girls like it, or rather, they like to look at the person, and think that they can change them.

 

But back to the Garden invasion, why didn't anyone call out GFs to help?Because GF's suck. The GFs raise so many questions alone. It is made clear that they are not only sentient, but can even talk too... so why do they help the main characters? Magic What's in it for them? Magic Where do they go when they're not summoned? Magic Where did they come from in the first place and what exactly are they anyway? Zanarkand In VII summons were in materia and were simply a tool like the rest of the magic to be used by whoever had them. In IX they're sentient, immortal, worshipped godlike beings and choose to help Garnet defeat Bhrane/Kuja/Garland and stop them manipulating the souls of the dead. In X they're the spirits of the dead and chose to become Aeons to help summoners defeat Sin. But in VIII, although they play a vital role in the story and combat, they're just sort of... there.Because Final Fantasy is expected to have things like summoning, but the writers claimed they had to focus on the romance plot. Basically, they bit off more than they could chew It had so much potential for a sidestory involving the GFs, or hell I'd be happy with just a short explanation of them, but we got nothing.There might be something, somehwere. This game has so much side stuff it's cumbersome

 

On top of that though, why doesn't everyone use GFs? Because there aren't that many? And futhermore, how do so many enemies use magic and other abilities if they DON'T have a GF junctioned?It comes naturally to them (I'm actually fairly certain this was explained ingame) JUST WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MEAN TO "JUNCTION" YOURSELF TO SOMETHING? How does one go about "junctioning" 40 Bio spells to their sword? ​How do you go about equipping sixteen Materia to your armour and weapons when each one is bigger than a golf ball? In Ultemicia's case she physically fused with Griever, but that's not what happens with Squall and co.Something to note: Squall and co. don't seem to physically change, but they don't gain any attributes of the summon right away, they have to unlock them. But note that it does tend to change their stats and abilities to match the summon. I could be that Squall and Co. just aren't using the Summon's full power (Or can't) If you don't agree with that, then there's also the fact that you can never see armour equipped to a chaarcter in Final Fantasy, maybe Summons work on the same principal? Since you can draw GFs from enemies I assume they're stored inside you when not in use and so is magic, but then how did GFs originally come about?How did human's come about? You don't need a species origin story for everything in a game... Did someone, somewhere order Ifrit to live in that cave It's implied that Balamb keeps Ifrit there to train new SeeDs or the Brothers to live in that tomb? The brotehrs probably live there on their own volition, or are in some way connected the the tombs occupant Where's there masters?Summons don't speciifcally have masters, note that you can casually switch who uses which summon. What happens when their carrier dies? They are most likely released How does one store magic spells within themselves? Magic Is magic a finite resource? Yes So then where do people get it? By drawing Are you born with it? Probably not

 

SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. At least VII explained what Materia was and how it's formed. I don't know how anyone can call such a convoluted, half-finished mess good, let alone the best game of all time. Bloody hell.

 

 

 

The team of VIII... is a clear attempt to have a team who starts off unlikable, but that grows on you over time. It worked for some, but not others. Personally, I blame poor, erratic writing. VIII tried too many things at once, which, of course, was the whole point.

LOL

 

yeah, that was really stupid,

 

in general if you leave a bunch of kids ejem I mean teens in charge of a war you have to be the most irresponsable Principal in the world, Cid is an idiot. (And I hated that everyone was pushing Squall to like Rinoa, and the worst is that it worked, how the hell?...)

 

Ejem

yeah, that part was just stupid, I blame poor writing too.

I think FF VIII was rushed that's why after CD 1 the writting feels well... rushed. CD 1 feels reasonably okay and then about half way through CD 2 things start to feel messy and loose with the story.

In fact I think it's when the school begins to fly that things start to go downhill. I still love FF8 though even with it's lackluster storyline.

 

Cid was a moron to let Squall be the leader of the school, he was a moron to hide and let Squall be the leader of a WAR and the whole save Rinoa on the side of the cliff and let Squall do it because he's the hero is so stupid.

 

I don't mind CD 4 and CD 3 but CD 2 when the school begins to fly is teeeeeeerible.

I think FF VIII was rushed that's why after CD 1 the writting feels well... rushed. CD 1 feels reasonably okay and then about half way through CD 2 things start to feel messy and loose with the story.

In fact I think it's when the school begins to fly that things start to go downhill. I still love FF8 though even with it's lackluster storyline.

 

Cid was a moron to let Squall be the leader of the school, he was a moron to hide and let Squall be the leader of a WAR and the whole save Rinoa on the side of the cliff and let Squall do it because he's the hero is so stupid.

 

I don't mind CD 4 and CD 3 but CD 2 when the school begins to fly is teeeeeeerible.

 

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I think FF VIII was rushed that's why after CD 1 the writting feels well... rushed. CD 1 feels reasonably okay and then about half way through CD 2 things start to feel messy and loose with the story.

In fact I think it's when the school begins to fly that things start to go downhill. I still love FF8 though even with it's lackluster storyline.

 

Cid was a moron to let Squall be the leader of the school, he was a moron to hide and let Squall be the leader of a WAR and the whole save Rinoa on the side of the cliff and let Squall do it because he's the hero is so stupid.

 

I don't mind CD 4 and CD 3 but CD 2 when the school begins to fly is teeeeeeerible.

 

theres a thoery that squall died at the end of disk one and that the rest of the game is a dream.the ending after u kill the final boss hes trying to remember her face but he cant.then theres a life flashing before his eyes kind of thing.

^ The Squall is dead theory ? That would suck if that was true because what would been the point in still playing ? It's all some weird dream.