Seven Guardians:

 

Sora.

 

Riku.

 

Kairi.

 

Ventus.

 

Aqua.

 

Lea.

 

Mickey.

 

Thirteen Seekers:

 

Master Xehanort.

 

Young Xehanort.

 

"Ansem" the Seeker of Darkness.

 

Xemnas.

 

Xigbar.

 

Saix.

 

Terra-Xehanort.

 

Xehanort.

 

Vanitas Remnant.

 

Marluxia.

 

Larxene.

 

Demyx.

 

Luxord.

 

any thoughts on these selections anyone?

How can you sit there and say that when he has been commanding Terra's body for the entire series. Master Xehanort straight up said that Terra became one of his vessels. How is that not proof.

 

He was talking about BBS, not necessarily present-day.

 

Go look at the title of the secret ending with Kairi Also as Mickey was listing TAV MX pointed out one of THOSE were his . So if it isnt ven or aqua that only leaves terra.

 

Kairi's already one of the Princesses, and as we all know, 7 Guardians are supposed to protect the 7 Princesses. Yen Sid just wants her to be able to protect herself in case none of the 7 Guardians are around.

 

Also, Mickey mentioned the "seventh" BEFORE MX said his piece. And MX said "another on your list", not "one of your friends".

He was talking about BBS, not necessarily present-day.

 

 

 

Kairi's already one of the Princesses, and as we all know, 7 Guardians are supposed to protect the 7 Princesses. Yen Sid just wants her to be able to protect herself in case none of the 7 Guardians are around.

 

Also, Mickey mentioned the "seventh" BEFORE MX said his piece. And MX said "another on your list", not "one of your friends".

 

Once again go look at the title of the secret ending .Do it . Secondly , Kairi can be both hence making it an end battle 13 v 13 on both sides. So this logic is flawed. Thirdly He says one of TAV were on his side and another - Sora - who he was about to implant . Go watch the scene again

Once again go look at the title of the secret ending .Do it . Secondly , Kairi can be both hence making it an end battle 13 v 13 on both sides. So this logic is flawed. Thirdly He says one of TAV were on his side and another - Sora - who he was about to implant . Go watch the scene again

 

He said "another on your list", not "one of TAV".

He said "another on your list", not "one of TAV".

 

I told you what he said .He said one of TAV and another - which was Sora since MX had him and was about to implant him . He says it . Go look . He actually points out two .

I told you what he said .He said one of TAV and another - which was Sora since MX had him and was about to implant him . He says it . Go look . He actually points out two .

 

I've already looked, and every time I see the same thing: "another on your list"

 

 

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by Alan Smithee

I've already looked, and every time I see the same thing: "another on your list"

 

Obviously you didnt or you would know this.Watch again .

I've already looked, and every time I see the same thing: "another on your list"

 

 

 

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHIJ-3Xiet0&feature=relmfu

 

He directly indicates that Terra became his new vessel at 2:29 he even points at his own body when he say this.

He directly makes it clear to mickey that two of the lights were on his side (4:14) which were Sora and obviously Terra. This video is point blank proof I really don't see how you can deny that. Just because Terra is a darkness doesn't mean that the X-blade can't be forged, all the peices are destined to appear. Even if you take Terra out as a light you still have seven weilders including kairi(who was directly implied to be both a gaurdian and a light) and Lea who became one at the end of the game.

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by devereauxr

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHIJ-3Xiet0&feature=relmfu

 

He directly indicates that Terra became his new vessel at 2:29 he even points at his own body when he say this.

He directly makes it clear to mickey that two of the lights were on his side (4:14) which were Sora and obviously Terra. This video is point blank proof I really don't see how you can deny that. Just because Terra is a darkness doesn't mean that the X-blade can't be forged, all the peices are destined to appear. Even if you take Terra out as a light you still have seven weilders including kairi(who was directly implied to be both a gaurdian and a light) and Lea who became one at the end of the game.

 

Yeppers !

 

See he lists himself, riku, and sora and TAV as the first 6. Its not mickey.Its not riku. Its not ven or aqua and that leaves sora and the 'other one ' left - terra. Since he said TWO those are the only two left to refer to ..

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by Flaming Lea

Well it comes down to this

Mickey

Sora

Riku

Aqua

Ventus

Lea

Kairi

However, nothing is written in stone in Kingdom Hearts land because you never know with Nomura

I hate how they just stuck Kairi in there. I mean yeah she is princess of hearts, but she has been a vegetable for the last couple of games no significant character development what so ever.

I wouldn't be suprised if Roxas or/and Terra was brought back to be a light. I highly doubt it though.

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by HikariYami

13 darkness=13 Xehanorts

 

7 lights=7 Soras

 

lol joking

 

What if Nomura was making it obvious who the seven lights were by showing them in the opening and he knew that we would be arguing about who the seven are. I could easily see him laughing about it.

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by Xail

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHIJ-3Xiet0&feature=relmfu

 

He directly indicates that Terra became his new vessel at 2:29 he even points at his own body when he say this.

He directly makes it clear to mickey that two of the lights were on his side (4:14) which were Sora and obviously Terra. This video is point blank proof I really don't see how you can deny that. Just because Terra is a darkness doesn't mean that the X-blade can't be forged, all the peices are destined to appear. Even if you take Terra out as a light you still have seven weilders including kairi(who was directly implied to be both a gaurdian and a light) and Lea who became one at the end of the game.

 

He means that Terra became his new vessel at the end of BBS, but that in no way means that Terra still IS a vessel. Also, MX points at his own body because he's using the words "MY new vessel". Furthermore, when mentioning "Sora and another", MX never gives any specific hints as to who the "other" is. You just keep PRESUMING that it's Terra. For all we know, MX could be referring to Ven, whose Heart is asleep inside MX's (intended but failed) vessel, Sora.

 

I will concede, though, that it's POSSIBLE that Terra is a Darkness. But only POSSIBLE.

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by Alan Smithee

Well it comes down to this

Mickey

Sora

Riku

Aqua

Ventus

Lea

Kairi

However, nothing is written in stone in Kingdom Hearts land because you never know with Nomura

I hate how they just stuck Kairi in there. I mean yeah she is princess of hearts, but she has been a vegetable for the last couple of games no significant character development what so ever.

I wouldn't be suprised if Roxas or/and Terra was brought back to be a light. I highly doubt it though.

 

 

I think Terra could still end up being a light if hes saved early enough in KH3. But as of right now he needs saved Alan thinks Terra is already saved

 

He means that Terra became his new vessel at the end of BBS, but that in no way means that Terra still IS a vessel. Also, MX points at his own body because he's using the words "MY new vessel". Furthermore, when mentioning "Sora and another", MX never gives any specific hints as to who the "other" is. You just keep PRESUMING that it's Terra. For all we know, MX could be referring to Ven, whose Heart is asleep inside MX's (intended but failed) vessel, Sora.

 

I will concede, though, that it's POSSIBLE that Terra is a Darkness. But only POSSIBLE.

 

It cant be Ven .MX doesnt have him . His body is still in CO. FACT . You cant even say MX knows where his heart is either for sure ..He doesnt know where Vens body is either . .That makes no sense .. Narrow it down . Its not Riku, Mickey, Aqua or Ven so that only leaves Sora and Terra left

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by Flaming Lea

I think Terra could still end up being a light if hes saved early enough in KH3. But as of right now he needs saved Alan thinks Terra is already saved

 

Actually no, I don't think he's "saved". Even if he's free from Xehanort, Terra is most likely stranded in another World (like Aqua is), and Sora & Co. still have to find him and "un-strand" him.

It cant be Ven .MX doesnt have him . His body is still in CO. FACT . You cant even say MX knows where his heart is either for sure ..He doesnt know where Vens body is either . .That makes no sense .

 

This and I totally called his reaction didn't I lol. That eliminates everyone else on the list except two choices, I wonder who they could be.

Plus Master Xehanort cannot exist out Terra's body because he doesn't even have a body to come back to.

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by devereauxr

Actually no, I don't think he's "saved". Even if he's free from Xehanort, Terra is most likely stranded in another World (like Aqua is), and Sora & Co. still have to find him and "un-strand" him.

 

What i mean by saved is saved from MX so yes you do believe that .

I think Terra could still end up being a light if hes saved early enough in KH3. But as of right now he needs saved Alan thinks Terra is already saved

 

 

 

It cant be Ven .MX doesnt have him . His body is still in CO. FACT . You cant even say MX knows where his heart is either for sure ..He doesnt know where Vens body is either . .That makes no sense .

 

I think Terra will be saved in time enough to be a light; they won't let him not fight.

Therefore, that would kick out Lea or Kairi.

More than likely Kairi since Nomura favors Lea/Axel and he is a big favorite from what I heard.

I think Terra will be saved in time enough to be a light; they won't let him not fight.

Therefore, that would kick out Lea or Kairi.

More than likely Kairi since Nomura favors Lea/Axel and he is a big favorite from what I heard.

 

I think its definitely possible . Alan and i disagree tho about whether MX still has Terra . He thinks he doesnt but im showing him terra is still needing saved .

He means that Terra became his new vessel at the end of BBS, but that in no way means that Terra still IS a vessel. Also, MX points at his own body because he's using the words "MY new vessel". Furthermore, when mentioning "Sora and another", MX never gives any specific hints as to who the "other" is. You just keep PRESUMING that it's Terra. For all we know, MX could be referring to Ven, whose Heart is asleep inside MX's (intended but failed) vessel, Sora.

 

I will concede, though, that it's POSSIBLE that Terra is a Darkness. But only POSSIBLE.

 

No because you can't even say that MX knows for sure where Ven's heart is and he definitely does not know where his body is. Not to mention he needs a vessel not a heart. So try again please.

UPDATE: I'm going to be taking a hiatus away from here for a while (college, etc.), so I thought I'd try to....

 

 

.... so I don't have to depart with any bad blood between us. Here goes:

 

Look, guys, I'm sorry for arguing with you. I really didn't intend to come across as a....

 

 

.... but it looks like I ended up doing just that.

 

I'm obviously not sorry enough to give up on my opinion, but I am sorry for turning this thread into a glorified flame war. So, can we please end this and call it a day? If so, then I promise I won't ever post about this particular subject matter (13 Darknesses, Terra, Eraqus, etc.) again. It seems to cause me nothing but migraines, anyway. Goodbye, and I hope that when I come back, we'll be a bit more civil toward one another.

Edited August 2, 201213 yr by Alan Smithee

UPDATE: I'm going to be taking a hiatus away from here for a while (college, etc.), so I thought I'd try to....

 

 

.... so I don't have to depart with any bad blood between us. Here goes:

 

Look, guys, I'm sorry for arguing with you. I really didn't intend to come across as a....

 

 

.... but it looks like I ended up doing just that.

 

I'm obviously not sorry enough to give up on my opinion, but I am sorry for turning this thread into a glorified flame war. So, can we please end this and call it a day? If so, then I promise I won't ever post about this particular subject matter (13 Darknesses, Terra, Eraqus, etc.) again. It seems to cause me nothing but migraines, anyway. Goodbye, and I hope that when I come back, we'll be a bit more civil toward one another.

 

 

Alan we are just discussing . There is no bad blood .

UPDATE: I'm going to be taking a hiatus away from here for a while (college, etc.), so I thought I'd try to....

 

 

.... so I don't have to depart with any bad blood between us. Here goes:

 

Look, guys, I'm sorry for arguing with you. I really didn't intend to come across as a....

 

 

.... but it looks like I ended up doing just that.

 

I'm obviously not sorry enough to give up on my opinion, but I am sorry for turning this thread into a glorified flame war. So, can we please end this and call it a day? If so, then I promise I won't ever post about this particular subject matter (13 Darknesses, Terra, Eraqus, etc.) again. It seems to cause me nothing but migraines, anyway. Goodbye, and I hope that when I come back, we'll be a bit more civil toward one another.

 

No bad blood but when you give an opinion you need to back it up, you did not which is why you lost this arguement.

I'm saying IF Sora rescues him. Did you read what I said? Ofcourse Terra can't be a light if nobody saves him...

 

i should have added that i personally think that in order to save Terra, Sora and all will have to defeat Xehanort (all of him).

i should have added that i personally think that in order to save Terra, Sora and all will have to defeat Xehanort (all of him).

 

Oh, ok. I guess that makes sense

tutti frutti. This is how I would more so believe both side would be set up:

 

7 Gaurdians of Light:

Mickey

Sora

Riku

Aqua

Ven

Lea

*The seventh individual I still find to be up for debate. On one side I believe that Terra has the possibiliity of being the 7th guardian since he could be rescued in time for the war, and I don't doubt that Xehanort would be able to have an extra "body/vessel" should he lose control over Terra. Kairi I wouldn't really think would be a guardian, since I would think that she would be easier for Xehanort to reach in order to get the 7 princesses of heart if she was on the front lines of the war with Mickey and the others.

 

13 Seekers of Darkness

Master Xehanort

Young Xehanort

Ansem SoD

Xemnas

Braig

Isa

 

- Possible remaining 7 of 13 Seekers of Darkness (My guesses on the remaining members)

Vanitas

Terra-nort

Riku Replika

Data Riku

 

Though I more so think that it is still up for grabs on who the remaining members since Xehanort was able to put part of himself into others like Braig.