Posted October 17, 201213 yr Popular Post 1- Eraqus wins the fight agaisnt Xehanort 2- The Neo Shadows steal Ventus' heart 3- Xehanort fails to create Vanitas 4- Eraqus doesn't trust Xehanort enough to let him preside over the MoM test 5- Eraqus deduces that Xehanort is behind Terra's darkness 6- Eraqus passes Terra anyways 7- Eraqus fails Aqua 8- Ventus tells Eraqus about Vanitas 9- Ventus confides in Terra and decides not to go after him 10- Aqua teams up with Terra upon meeting him 11- Aqua takes Ventus home upon meeting him 12- Terra isn't fooled into thinking he stole a heart 13- Aqua doesn't lie and say Terra has done bad things despite having no proof 14- The three team up upon meeting at Radiant Garden 15- Terra figures out that Braig's plan makes no sense 16- Terra chooses to use a different attack than darkness to free Xehanort 17- Aqua captures Vanitas upon defeating him 18- Terra hadn't caused Riku to get the keyblade 19- Aqua hadn't protected Kairi 20- Terra had gone after Ventus instead of listening to Xehanort and going to the Badlands 21- Eraqus hadn't decided to kill Ventus 22- Eraqus had decided to talk to Terra 23- Terra had chosen not to fight Eraqus 24- Xehanort had failed to kill Eraqus 25- If any of the three hadn't gone to the keyblade graveyard 26- If any of the three had died 27- If Yen Side gave good advice 28- If Terra had resisted being possessed 29- If Ventus hadn't been frozen 30- If Braig had been killed, or been otherwise unable to possess 31- Ventus hadn't established a connection with Sora 32- Aqua hadn't chosen to save Terra-Xehanort 33- Aqua hadn't chosen to store ventus in Castle Oblivion 34- Xehanort had successfully created the X-Blade And the scary part is I'm probably missing a lot more Edited October 17, 201213 yr by hatok
April 10, 201312 yr wait what does ventus having a connection with sora have to do with unraveling his plans? is it cuz Roxas helped to create kingdom hearts?
April 17, 201312 yr I still want part 2. Anyways, I like this plot. Nomura should take lessons from you.
April 18, 201312 yr It may or may not be her nature but it's her job. That was her mission in the first place, to bring Ven back home and all things considering, yes, she really had to. Letting Ven run around "because the plot needed him to" is a bad excuse to have Aqua forget her mission to make it convenient for the story.He wasn't possessed, no one made Terra do anything there.That's why it's a "what if" question. Xehanort didn't touch Ven for the majority of BbS.They lacked information because they didn't do much to try and get it. A tragedy isn't marked by lack of information, it's marked by the inevitable happening and the things that happened weren't inevitable which is the point of this topic. Too much happens on MX relying on the other characters to do the worst things possible for things to go his way and I don't buy it. These tragedy isn't tragic. Ven did just accuse Aqua of letting the title of Keyblade Master get to her head. I just assumed that was her way of showing him that she wasn't the tyrant he was accusing her of being by giving him the chance to go back by himself. But I agree. It might have been better if she forced Ven to go back home. Aqua seemed to be thinking "I'm losing my friends!" instead of thinking logically. About Aqua "lying".... In the Japanese version, if I could remember correctly, a better translation of what Aqua says is "I've been to the same worlds as you...and I think you're getting too close to the darkness. She never says she "saw" him do anything. Terra did shoot out Braig's eye because he let darkness control him. He also let a potentially dangerous mad scientist go on the word of the aforementioned scientist. Terra believed Jumba's lie about 626 because of his master issues. Aqua was right about Terra. He was getting too close to the darkness. I would prefer if there was a reason for Aqua to be correct. Would it have been too hard to have Aqua witness the fight between Terra and Braig? I suppose because they were chasing after the giant unversed that would have taken too much time. How about having the Grand Council Woman say something like "We found a man dressed like you, and he let a dangerous scientist we had detained go"? Why not give her a better witness to Terra's irresponsibility and foolishness than Maleficent? Overall, it seemed to me that Birth by Sleep changed a lot from editing, and Aqua got the brunt of this. Edited April 18, 201312 yr by Handsome_the_Wise
1- Eraqus wins the fight agaisnt Xehanort
2- The Neo Shadows steal Ventus' heart
3- Xehanort fails to create Vanitas
4- Eraqus doesn't trust Xehanort enough to let him preside over the MoM test
5- Eraqus deduces that Xehanort is behind Terra's darkness
6- Eraqus passes Terra anyways
7- Eraqus fails Aqua
8- Ventus tells Eraqus about Vanitas
9- Ventus confides in Terra and decides not to go after him
10- Aqua teams up with Terra upon meeting him
11- Aqua takes Ventus home upon meeting him
12- Terra isn't fooled into thinking he stole a heart
13- Aqua doesn't lie and say Terra has done bad things despite having no proof
14- The three team up upon meeting at Radiant Garden
15- Terra figures out that Braig's plan makes no sense
16- Terra chooses to use a different attack than darkness to free Xehanort
17- Aqua captures Vanitas upon defeating him
18- Terra hadn't caused Riku to get the keyblade
19- Aqua hadn't protected Kairi
20- Terra had gone after Ventus instead of listening to Xehanort and going to the Badlands
21- Eraqus hadn't decided to kill Ventus
22- Eraqus had decided to talk to Terra
23- Terra had chosen not to fight Eraqus
24- Xehanort had failed to kill Eraqus
25- If any of the three hadn't gone to the keyblade graveyard
26- If any of the three had died
27- If Yen Side gave good advice
28- If Terra had resisted being possessed
29- If Ventus hadn't been frozen
30- If Braig had been killed, or been otherwise unable to possess
31- Ventus hadn't established a connection with Sora
32- Aqua hadn't chosen to save Terra-Xehanort
33- Aqua hadn't chosen to store ventus in Castle Oblivion
34- Xehanort had successfully created the X-Blade
And the scary part is I'm probably missing a lot more
Edited by hatok