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Alright, so after carefully watching the updated secret ending of Kingdom Hearts Final Mix HD, also known as Deep Dive, something stuck out to me. At the end of the video, Roxas walks up to Xemnas on the beach, where Xemnas speaks, "I went to see him. He looks just like you." Well, this may not be as obvious as you think. In the very next scene, it shows Sora flying away, inferring that Xemnas was referring to Sora in his statement about Roxas' appearance. However, I feel like this isn't who he's actually talking about. Instead, I truly believe that Xemnas is talking about, well the person that looks exactly like Roxas, Ven. Originally, this idea would sound quite far-fetched, considering Master Xehanort was enemies with the trio, Aqua, Terra, and Ventus, but if you paid attention to the new cutscenes in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix, you can see Xemnas, Terranort's Nobody, sitting in a room with Aqua's armor. This room looks very closely like the one that Aqua placed the sleeping Ventus in at Castle Oblivion, further strengthening the possible connection between the two. Perhaps Xemnas knew which room Ventus was in due to the inner Terra that still lurks inside him, and the good in him allowed him to visit Ven. Perhaps sitting in the chair in the Chamber of Repose allowed him to visit Ven in the Chamber of Awakening. If so, this would symbolically demonstrate that Terra, Aqua, and Ventus have been together this entire time, Ven in his own body of course, Terra in Xemnas', and Aqua through her armor. I feel like this would make much more sense than Xemnas referring to Sora, and Nomura has changed the ideas of what the series previously hinted at before (like time traveling altering the series in DDD). I know this idea may come off as far-fetched in all, but it would be quite neat if Xemnas was talking about Ventus to Roxas instead of Sora in that scene. Here's the scene in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh_3PVnI7no

(Around 2:36)

Also, Xemnas says, "Everything is coming back to me... the truth." Perhaps that is actually the inner Terra talking to him and he's starting to recall the deeds of Master Xehanort and what has truly happened to him over the course of the events from the end of Birth by Sleep until then (including the flashbacks in 3D).

(BTW doesn't this remake of this secret ending look absolutely stunning?)

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-there’s a conversation between Xemnas and Roxas that went like “I met him. He looks just like you.” “Who are you?” at the beach in the World of Darkness. Did this happen right after Sora’s fight with the Enigmatic Man in KH:FM?

 

Nomura: “Right after”…. I’m not sure about that but yes, it’s after that. In this game it was never stated that Xemnas was the EM in KH:FM but from the way he fights and his line “He looks just like you”, I hinted that it was him in KH:FM.

He's referring to Sora

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He's referring to Sora

I thought about that same situation as well, but then it occurred to me. Why would Xemnas be telling Roxas all of this stuff if he was just using him? I feel as though it could possibly apply to both Ventus and Sora, or at least it can be interpreted that way.

I thought about that same situation as well, but then it occurred to me. Why would Xemnas be telling Roxas all of this stuff if he was just using him? I feel as though it could possibly apply to both Ventus and Sora, or at least it can be interpreted that way.

It makes more sense with Sora. Since Nomura said this takes place after Sora's fight with Xemnas it makes more sense to just be him. Only the creator of C.O. (Aqua) would be able to find Ven in there.

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It makes more sense with Sora. Since Nomura said this takes place after Sora's fight with Xemnas it makes more sense to just be him. Only the creator of C.O. (Aqua) would be able to find Ven in there.

I never said he found the exact location of Ven, but perhaps it allowed him to communicate with Ven in the Chamber of Awakening. Obviously, the Chamber of Repose, where Xemnas liked to sit at, and the Chamber of Awakening, are deeply connected, and I even think that that's how they're going to find Ventus in Kingdom Hearts 3. They save Aqua, go to the Chamber of Repose, pinpoint Ventus' location, then go to Castle Oblivion and find the Chamber of Awakening. Then they revert it back into The Land of Departure. Wow, Kingdom Hearts 3 is going to be one giant game.

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This is quite possibly the most interesting read that I have seen in a while. I wish I could contribute, but I haven't seen KH:FM secret ending...

i feel like after DDD any thoughts that Xemans has some Terra traits is just hopeful thinking cuz it seems obvious in DDD that Xehanort was following through with a plan from the very beginning

It makes more sense with Sora. Since Nomura said this takes place after Sora's fight with Xemnas it makes more sense to just be him. Only the creator of C.O. (Aqua) would be able to find Ven in there.

That makes more sense. Sora and Roxas pretty much look exactly the same except for their hair(The Same Eyes, same kinda face structure)

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i feel like after DDD any thoughts that Xemans has some Terra traits is just hopeful thinking cuz it seems obvious in DDD that Xehanort was following through with a plan from the very beginning

Considering that, its still odd that Xemnas would go into the Chamber of Repose if there was no Terra left inside him.

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Also, to further reinforce the ideas proposed in this topic about Xemnas going to the Chamber of Repose to look for Ventus in the Chamber of Awakening because of his inner Terra, just listen to what Xigbar says about Xemnas and the rooms. (Around 4:02)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD_recdbNkg

He's looking for his other friend. This pretty much seals the deal that Terra was having an influence on Xemnas.

 

Also, to further reinforce the ideas proposed in this topic about Xemnas going to the Chamber of Repose to look for Ventus in the Chamber of Awakening because of his inner Terra, just listen to what Xigbar says about Xemnas and the rooms. (Around 4:02)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD_recdbNkg

He's looking for his other friend. This pretty much seals the deal that Terra was having an influence on Xemnas.

wait why does friend have ""? i think this happened in the cutscene in the chamber of sleep too and thats why i hear some people think xemnas said "friend" with sarcasm. hence the quotes

He's talking about Sora. The "Been to see him" is referring to his canon fight with Sora in Hollow Bastion in KH1 FM.

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"He looks just like you." is basically the original Japanese translation of the line. The line in the official English version is slightly changed to "He looks a lot like you." Personally I find the original version of the line to be somewhat more elusive.

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