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So, the Vanitas Lingering Will battle was Non canon right?

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It has to be. I mean, since he was defeated during the battle inside Ventus's mind, none of the trio except for Aqua could've fought his lingering will.

 

So im guessing this fight is only canon for Aqua herself, and is not canon for Ven or Terra.

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The fight isn't canon. Very rarely are secret bosses every canon to the time itself. Same goes for the Unknown in BbS and Lingering Will in KHIIFM. The characters are canon for later on, but the battles themselves are not.

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The fight isn't canon. Very rarely are secret bosses every canon to the time itself. Same goes for the Unknown in BbS and Lingering Will in KHIIFM. The characters are canon for later on, but the battles themselves are not.

Really? O_O I thought Unknown and lingering will fights were canon. I mean, the fight against Xemnas in KHFM was canon, so i thought the Unknown and Lingering Will were both canon too.

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The characters only. I mean, Lingering Will, maybe the battle. But if you think about it, the Unknown battle: same situation as Vanitas Remnant. It doesn't appear until after all the characters would be indisposed. But in all actuality, the character could have been there.

 

It has to be. I mean, since he was defeated during the battle inside Ventus's mind, none of the trio except for Aqua could've fought his lingering will.

 

So im guessing this fight is only canon for Aqua herself, and is not canon for Ven or Terra.

Two words.

Time. Travel. 

It makes everything canon.

Edited by Sora_Kuno

The fight isn't canon. Very rarely are secret bosses every canon to the time itself. Same goes for the Unknown in BbS and Lingering Will in KHIIFM. The characters are canon for later on, but the battles themselves are not.

I always considered Unknown canon, since it explained

 

Xion's birth. I'm pretty sure that's where he got Sora's memories from.

 

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I always considered Unknown canon, since it explained

 

Xion's birth. I'm pretty sure that's where he got Sora's memories from.

 

He meant the Mysterious figure in BBS, not the Unknown in KHFM. And the fight IS CANON. Xemnas told Roxas he had been to see Sora in 358/2 Days/KH2.

He meant the Mysterious figure in BBS, not the Unknown in KHFM. And the fight IS CANON. Xemnas told Roxas he had been to see Sora in 358/2 Days/KH2.

Oh, oops, my bad. xD I'd forgotten about that part, by the way.

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The characters only. I mean, Lingering Will, maybe the battle. But if you think about it, the Unknown battle: same situation as Vanitas Remnant. It doesn't appear until after all the characters would be indisposed. But in all actuality, the character could have been there.

Thats different, Mysterious Figure can TIME TRAVEL. Ven, Aqua, and Terra could've headed back to the Land of Departure at any time before their indisposure, so thats very possible that they could have fought them.

 

Lingering Will probably happens before Sora and co. head to TWTNW. He might've been called in by Chip and Dale to check out whats happening with the portal, so he and his friends went and fought Terra.

We might see the Vanitas lingering spirit again in KH3.

Thats different, Mysterious Figure can TIME TRAVEL. Ven, Aqua, and Terra could've headed back to the Land of Departure at any time before their indisposure, so thats very possible that they could have fought them.

 

Lingering Will probably happens before Sora and co. head to TWTNW. He might've been called in by Chip and Dale to check out whats happening with the portal, so he and his friends went and fought Terra.

 

However, MF only shows up after Terranort is defeated by Aqua. At that point, Terra was taken over, Ven was comatose, and Aqua was in the realm of darkness. And given the revelations in in 3D, MF can only travel forward, not back. So it only fits that the situation could never have canonically happened.

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However, MF only shows up after Terranort is defeated by Aqua. At that point, Terra was taken over, Ven was comatose, and Aqua was in the realm of darkness. And given the revelations in in 3D, MF can only travel forward, not back. So it only fits that the situation could never have canonically happened.

Well, the game isn't going to put the Secret Bosses available to fight before the final boss battle, they always do it after(With the exception of the extra bosses in KH1 and KH2, since they don't let you use Clear Save Data to technically play after the Final Battle but being able to fight the bosses after having done it).

But the legit fact that MF can only travel forward is true, so that fight is non canon.

 

However, MF only shows up after Terranort is defeated by Aqua. At that point, Terra was taken over, Ven was comatose, and Aqua was in the realm of darkness. And given the revelations in in 3D, MF can only travel forward, not back. So it only fits that the situation could never have canonically happened.

Well actually you're wrong. Its possible that MF could've traveled to fight the BBS trio as the story of BBS takes place IN HIS FUTURE. And MF can travel back to his own time, thats what happens at the end of 3D. So its canonically possible that they could've fought MF.

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The fight isn't canon. Very rarely are secret bosses every canon to the time itself. Same goes for the Unknown in BbS and Lingering Will in KHIIFM. The characters are canon for later on, but the battles themselves are not.

I don't think it's been confirmed whether or not the Mysterious Figure battles and Lingering Snetiment are canon.

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I don't think it's been confirmed whether or not the Mysterious Figure battles and Lingering Snetiment are canon.

Well im sure Lingering Sentiment isn't canon, since its the REMAINS OF VANITAS AFTER VEN DESTROYED HIM. And since Ven and Terra were indisposed at that point(Ven fell into a coma, and Terra was taken over by MX) the only one who could've possibly fought him was Aqua. But im pretty sure she just made a beeline for Radiant Garden.

 

Mysterious Figure could've happened at anytime in the story, with any of the trio visiting the world at any time.

Well im sure Lingering Sentiment isn't canon, since its the REMAINS OF VANITAS AFTER VEN DESTROYED HIM. And since Ven and Terra were indisposed at that point(Ven fell into a coma, and Terra was taken over by MX) the only one who could've possibly fought him was Aqua. But im pretty sure she just made a beeline for Radiant Garden.

 

Mysterious Figure could've happened at anytime in the story, with any of the trio visiting the world at any time.

I was referring to the Terra Lingering Sentiment.

Lingering Will/sentiment could be canon. It's never really had anything to back it up nor deny it.

Unknown may be because as we all know:

Time travel 

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I was referring to the Terra Lingering Sentiment.

 

Ok then.

 

Lingering Will/sentiment could be canon. It's never really had anything to back it up nor deny it.

Unknown may be because as we all know:

Time travel 

This^

 

I believe they are both canon just because.

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