And no,I'm not influenced by Spoony to say that,despite that I agree with him about everything he said about FF8

 

It was Final Fantasy VIII that started the slow downgrade in quality for the Final Fantasy series

 

Yeah IX got better but I can't say that FF10 is as good as 9 or FF games from 1 to 7 but I'll say it's better than 8

 

The story of FF8 has plot holes up the ass to the point I think it was the inspiration for Sonic 06's story

 

The characters are boring and their personality is so paper thin that it can be described in one sentenceword for each one.

 

Example:

 

Squall: An emo with not much clear explaination for his past.

 

Rinoa:A whore who used to sleep with Seifer and most of her dialogue is trying to impress Squall.

 

Seifer:A butthurt soldier got recruited by The Sorceress just when she said "You're just a boy",seriously that was all it took to make Seifer betray SeeD.

 

Zell:Dumbass for the sake of being a dumbass

 

Selphie: The dumb kawaii dessoni girl

 

Quistis:The stupid sexy teacher.

 

Ultimecia:I wanna compress time because...........................BECAUSE!!!!!

 

 

 

 

As for the gameplay,this was the start of adding stupid additions that doesn't add much to the gameplay.

 

The Junction system has to be the most boring customization system I EVER used in an RPG

 

On top of unskippable tutorials,You spend so much time on this Junctioning system just to complicatedly get some abilities that you could've got normally without spending too much time than nessessary on the menu....and don't get me started on drawing magic from enemies......Instead of having an MP like every RPG in existence...you have to draw magic like crazy just to max out your spells and when you run out of magic...you go draw more again....I know there is a much easier way but even with that you still need to draw magic

 

At was with FF8 that we've been flooded with poorly done customization system in later games in the series(I can't stand the Gambit system from 12...and the crystarium in XIII is just a scripted progression)

 

I don't mind adding something new as long as it's being done properly,and I don't mind change as long as this change makes sense and add more to the gameplay than hindering it.

 

I swear for the past 6 years I've been enjoying other RPGs more than FF games since FF12

 

Heck,the Mario & Luigi RPG series and even Gen 4 of Pokemon has been better than any FF game since 2006 until even now

 

And speaking of FF12....Just play Xenoblade Chronicles,it's basically what FF12 should've been from the beginning

 

I can go on and on about 12 but let's sums it up with this:

 

the downhill of the Final Fantasy franchise has started WAAAAAAY before XIII and Toriyama,the series wasn't that godly perfect series that you guys always thought it is prior to XIII.

 

 

I hope that Final Fantasy XV would be the ultimate Final Fantasy game that brings the series back to it's former glory

 

 

by "Downhill" I meant downgrade in quality

 

not DECREASE IN MY LOVE FOR THE SERIES AS IF I SAID IT CAN'T GET BETTER

 

Dude, look at it from our perspective. You may personally know that's what you meant, but it's not the impression we got, or are getting. It's not that hard to grasp.

eh it's my favorite, i enjoyed it more than any other FF so far, your have a right to your own opinion so i won't try and change your mind because it would be pointless to argue it. but i've only seen this kind of thing in the FF fanbase "i hated this ff game all ff games after this aren't as good as the ones before this" why not instead of complaining you hope for a better new one? it's only the FF fanbase i've seen do this.

 

I have to agree with Metal Snake. From 1-7 the games were great. Then it started to go downhill from what ive seen. X looks Great, so i think thats where the series started to pick up a bit, But then XI and XII came and brought the series down again. Then finally XIII came, and it was amazing. XIII has a good story, with likeable characters(save for Lightning at the beginning, since she acted like a bit of a bitch at the start, but you cant blame her for that after seeing what she went through) and decent gameplay. The crystarium system was like "Meh", but it was fleshed out and made better in XIII-2, along with the battle system in XIII-2. XIII is great, and its getting better. Its FINALLY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, SINCE X CAME OUT. LR is looking to be the best FF game this console generation, with every an FF needs, and MORE. Ill be shocked if it gets worse sales then the first 2 and people end up hating on its gameplay in all honesty.

 

Im looking forward the XV, not just because it has the same potential as XIII(they have the same mythology, so it has as good potential as XIII does) but because NOMURA IS MAKING IT. He made KH a great series, and i dont doubt he'll do the same for XV and its sequels(if it gets any).

 

I cant say anything about XIV, since i havent looked into it, and i probably wont, since im not that big of a fan of MMO's.

 

I dont give a damn how much hate i get for liking the XIII games and saying how good it really is, because thats how i feel about it. If you guys want to go ahead and hate on it, fine. Some of us know how much better it is then VIII and XII.

Geez, can't people just enjoy what they have and have fun? What if there was no Final Fantasy series? You would play other games, but that's not the point. But, hey, there wouldn't be anymore complaining!

I thought VIII was fun. Played a little bit of IX but my PlayStation is acting up.. X was fun as well. Ignored XI because lack of interest and the fact you have have to pay a monthly fee. I've played XII: Revenant Wings and I enjoyed it. Not finished XIII yet, but it's still great to play. I don't have the rest of the XIII games.

The best one? Type-0! Oh, yeah. Released only in Japan ( <_<) but I've watched the playthroughs and cutscenes. Such awesomeness and tears.

 

/Another rambling post brought to you by Rinax.

 

I don't think it's going downhill. Perhaps you have to look at the bright side.

I agree with you.

 

DEFINITELY GET XIII-2 and LR FF XIII(Its XIII-3, just with a different name) when you get the chance.

YES. I went into this game expecting a mediocre game with a dumb storyline and dumb characters. But, I thought it was great, with likable characters, and I enjoyed the storyline once I got past the premise! Plus, I thought Caius was a great villain. Easily ten times better than Ultimecia. "To be continued" might have been cheap, but otherwise I enjoyed the game a lot! (Except for the jpop music, that was stupid)

Well, technically, IDK if you know this, but Lightning's DLC for XIII-2 expands on the ending, and explains alot more of what happens after To Be Continued and what is to come. I highly recommend buying it in Prep for LR FF XIII, its only 5 bucks, plus you get Lightning as a DLC monster once you 5 star the battles in her DLC. Its also REALLY FUN, especially if you like the gameplay.

Edited August 14, 201312 yr by spiderfreak1011

I have to agree with Metal Snake. From 1-7 the games were great. Then it started to go downhill from what ive seen. X looks Great, so i think thats where the series started to pick up a bit, But then XI and XII came and brought the series down again. Then finally XIII came, and it was amazing. XIII has a good story, with likeable characters(save for Lightning at the beginning, since she acted like a bit of a bitch at the start, but you cant blame her for that after seeing what she went through) and decent gameplay. The crystarium system was like "Meh", but it was fleshed out and made better in XIII-2, along with the battle system in XIII-2. XIII is great, and its getting better. Its FINALLY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, SINCE X CAME OUT. LR is looking to be the best FF game this console generation, with every an FF needs, and MORE. Ill be shocked if it gets worse sales then the first 2 and people end up hating on its gameplay in all honesty. Im looking forward the XV, not just because it has the same potential as XIII(they have the same mythology, so it has as good potential as XIII does) but because NOMURA IS MAKING IT. He made KH a great series, and i dont doubt he'll do the same for XV and its sequels(if it gets any). I cant say anything about XIV, since i havent looked into it, and i probably wont, since im not that big of a fan of MMO's. I dont give a damn how much hate i get for liking the XIII games and saying how good it really is, because thats how i feel about it. If you guys want to go ahead and hate on it, fine. Some of us know how much better it is then VIII and XII.I agree with you. DEFINITELY GET XIII-2 and LR FF XIII(Its XIII-3, just with a different name) when you get the chance.Well, technically, IDK if you know this, but Lightning's DLC for XIII-2 expands on the ending, and explains alot more of what happens after To Be Continued and what is to come. I highly recommend buying it in Prep for LR FF XIII, its only 5 bucks, plus you get Lightning as a DLC monster once you 5 star the battles in her DLC. Its also REALLY FUN, especially if you like the gameplay.

Yeah, I know. I've beaten the DLC.

I have to agree with Metal Snake. From 1-7 the games were great. Then it started to go downhill from what ive seen. X looks Great, so i think thats where the series started to pick up a bit, But then XI and XII came and brought the series down again. Then finally XIII came, and it was amazing. XIII has a good story, with likeable characters(save for Lightning at the beginning, since she acted like a bit of a bitch at the start, but you cant blame her for that after seeing what she went through) and decent gameplay. The crystarium system was like "Meh", but it was fleshed out and made better in XIII-2, along with the battle system in XIII-2. XIII is great, and its getting better. Its FINALLY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, SINCE X CAME OUT. LR is looking to be the best FF game this console generation, with every an FF needs, and MORE. Ill be shocked if it gets worse sales then the first 2 and people end up hating on its gameplay in all honesty.

 

Im looking forward the XV, not just because it has the same potential as XIII(they have the same mythology, so it has as good potential as XIII does) but because NOMURA IS MAKING IT. He made KH a great series, and i dont doubt he'll do the same for XV and its sequels(if it gets any).

 

I cant say anything about XIV, since i havent looked into it, and i probably wont, since im not that big of a fan of MMO's.

 

I dont give a damn how much hate i get for liking the XIII games and saying how good it really is, because thats how i feel about it. If you guys want to go ahead and hate on it, fine. Some of us know how much better it is then VIII and XII.

 

why do you think you're so much better than everyone else who doesn't like 13? i mean you're acting like hating 8 and 12 is an amazing accomplishment when it's not allot of people hate these games it's nothing special. you seem to think just because you like 13 you're automatically better than anyone who doesn't. and anyone who doesn't is just wrong and can't have their own opinion on the game 

why do you think you're so much better than everyone else who doesn't like 13? i mean you're acting like hating 8 and 12 is an amazing accomplishment when it's not allot of people hate these games it's nothing special. you seem to think just because you like 13 you're automatically better than anyone who doesn't. and anyone who doesn't is just wrong and can't have their own opinion on the game 

What the hell are you talking about? I dont think im better then the others who hate 13. Im just saying why me and other 13 fans think the games are great, im not trying to say why other people can't have their own opinion on the game.

What the hell are you talking about? I dont think im better then the others who hate 13. Im just saying why me and other 13 fans think the games are great, im not trying to say why other people can't have their own opinion on the game.

Don't bother

 

You can't argue against the FF fanbase logic of random accusations and assumptions