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I'm really just so discouraged.

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There's a TL;DR at the bottom if you do not wish to read all this. I won't blame you because really who wants to hear a f*cking math sob story.

 

I know school has only "just" begun in my area, and you know unlike past years, I have ACTUALLY been completing all of my math homework.

 

I don't know about y'all but every year there were at LEAST two teachers who would say "it doesn't matter if you bomb tests and quizzes so long as you do your homework." Has anybody else been told that or is it just my school? Don't get me wrong, I have loved most of my teachers every year. There have only been two, maybe three teachers out of my ENTIRE schooled life that I've ever actually hated. The wannabe French bitch from 10th grade, and the wannabe college professor from 8th grade are the only ones that strike my mind.

 

Anyways back on topic. So I've been doing my math homework, granted we've only had like 7 or so assigned to us but I at least attempted or completed them ALL (you still get credit for attempting). So the other day we had a quiz. When I do math, I understand it so long as the teacher is holding my hand - but the second I'm on my own I just firetrucking bomb it. Even if I think I know what I'm doing, I don't.

 

So I failed. I got a 3. I would say it's ironic that 3 happens to be my favourite number, but I don't feel like joking about that. But I'll do it anyways. Haha. Irony. Yay.

 

Tbh I didn't think I'd do that bad. People think I'm exaggerating when I say I cry over my math homework but I am seriously genuinely, 100% (firetruck I just used math) SERIOUS. Yeah sure I'm overly sensitive, yes I'm a big baby but it's no secret that I just cry over my math homework. Of course I end up laughing about it later but it just throws all these negative emotions at me.

 

The only thing I'm pissed at is i have stayed after school, or at home LATE AT NIGHT to complete my homework and it's all for nothing, because despite getting As on my math homework this firetrucking quiz now made it an F.

 

I'm just so discouraged now it's going to be a repeat of last year, I'm going to do all of my homework except for math and I'll fail geometry for a second time.

 

And whether you're trying to be nice, positive, or just realistic, PLEASE don't tell me to stay after school because as mentioned, I HAVE tried that (and I'll continue to do so because why the firetruck not), PLEASE don't tell me it's easy for you because really, I'm not you. I'm happy with me and I don't know if I'm incredibly stupid or what, but MATH (and biology. firetrucking biology. I can do any science class except that firetrucking shit, and chemistry too that shirts boring for me) i just can't do it. Really. It's been years and I just can't.

 

I'm not going to bullshit anybody. Math isn't my strong point. I know it's not good to give up on things and say that you can't do something, but if I could do it then I really think I'd be DOING it, rather than getting so upset by it.

 

I really don't wanna be that guy but it's so upsetting to me because I will seriously never use it. All I need is to learn this shit for another firetrucking year and pass which WON'T happen, and then I can throw it out of my head forever. Look, a lot of people actually like math. A lot of people make an obvious living out of it but it's just really, really not for me. I don't know what to tell myself, or any of my past math teachers except I'm sorry. Don't waste your time and teach somebody who can understand it, please, I'm just deadweight to the class.

 

tl;dr: oh firetruck the tl;dr, either read it, skim it or don't I just need to take a breather or something I just needed to write this all out

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A trick for any kind of math, try to relate it to something that is interesting for you. For example in videogames, makes life so much easy. Also Going bad on math is not bad, almost everyone were in the same boat, however it´s just a phase.... unless you are gonna go to any career math related, you will be fine. So for now cheer up, remember: One can learn from everything in life, even from the mistakes. 

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A trick for any kind of math, try to relate it to something that is interesting for you. For example in videogames, makes life so much easy. Also Going bad on math is not bad, almost everyone were in the same boat, however it´s just a phase.... unless you are gonna go to any career math related, you will be fine. So for now cheer up, remember: One can learn from everything in life, even from the mistakes.

Yeah sorry but I really can't, haha. It's not because I find math boring but my mind LITERALLY cannot understand it. I was never good at this problem solving stuff (with numbers, anyways) and believe me when I say I've tried forcing it into my head. It doesn't work. I can't grasp any sort of math beyond the simple shit.

I read the whole thing first, then laughed at the tldr. Anyway, here's my story.

I used to be top of my class at math, but every since the past two years, I've been slowly "failing." This is more due to my lazyness to actual write everything and now I just hate the topic and save it for last. "I really don't wanna be that guy but it's so upsetting to me because I will seriously never use it. All I need is to learn this shit for another firetrucking year and pass which WON'T happen, and then I can throw it out of my head forever."

 

 

So, I'll just throw in this inspirational quote.  Whatever you do, don't get upset enough to give up your dreams.

At any school, there are always the superior and inferior students. The names are only different, but ‘A’ and ‘B’ exist. I want to ask everyone this. Are dreams only for those who have talent? If you don’t have talent, should you not dream? If you want to dream, you need to close your eyes. If you close your eyes, it doesn’t matter how other people see you. When you close your eyes, you do not see how other people see you, but you face your true self. When I closed my eyes, the person I faced said ‘Don’t give up on dreams.’ Because dreams are not only for the talented, but for those who dream.

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I read the whole thing first, then laughed at the tldr. Anyway, here's my story.

I used to be top of my class at math, but every since the past two years, I've been slowly "failing." This is more due to my lazyness to actual write everything and now I just hate the topic and save it for last. "I really don't wanna be that guy but it's so upsetting to me because I will seriously never use it. All I need is to learn this shit for another firetrucking year and pass which WON'T happen, and then I can throw it out of my head forever."

 

 

So, I'll just throw in this inspirational quote.  Whatever you do, don't get upset enough to give up your dreams.

At any school, there are always the superior and inferior students. The names are only different, but ‘A’ and ‘B’ exist. I want to ask everyone this. Are dreams only for those who have talent? If you don’t have talent, should you not dream? If you want to dream, you need to close your eyes. If you close your eyes, it doesn’t matter how other people see you. When you close your eyes, you do not see how other people see you, but you face your true self. When I closed my eyes, the person I faced said ‘Don’t give up on dreams.’ Because dreams are not only for the talented, but for those who dream.

Having had made you laugh cheered me up a little, I like doing something positive for somebody for once!

 

Thank you for the quote. I think my problem is I dream too much - and my dream doesn't involve math. I mean sure great it'd be awesome if I actually liked/cared for math but I don't know, I can't explain it. Sad thing is this damn subject will drag me down until I graduate, if even that.

 

Anyways firetruck math, that quote was awesome, thank you so much. If anything I'll TRY doing my homework for the teacher since he's so goddamned nice, but that's all.

Having had made you laugh cheered me up a little, I like doing something positive for somebody for once!Thank you for the quote. I think my problem is I dream too much - and my dream doesn't involve math. I mean sure great it'd be awesome if I actually liked/cared for math but I don't know, I can't explain it. Sad thing is this damn subject will drag me down until I graduate, if even that.Anyways firetruck math, that quote was awesome, thank you so much. If anything I'll TRY doing my homework for the teacher since he's so goddamned nice, but that's all.

 

Just out of curiosity, what is your dream? I'm personally curious.

In 9th grade the entire class, no every class for my Algebra teacher was lost almost the entire year. People congratulated for getting a 65, including me. We almost had a party. They never got the material, they did the Homework but they never got it. Same went with me, I never got it until the very end. I didn't study either for my Finals and Regents and I got a 95 on my Finals (got a 55 on my midterm mind you) and a 82 on my Regents. Math is always so hard at first, but as the year goes on it gets really simple. Sometimes it's a last minute realization too. Just do the homework, and if you are really stuck I suggest you either get tutoring or check out Khan Academy, as far as I heard it helps a lot. Trust me, you will do well if you keep on doing your homework! Math is a very difficult subject to teach after all. 

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Just out of curiosity, what is your dream? I'm personally curious.

I just want to be in love. If I'm in love with somebody for the rest of my life then nothing else matters. Well except cats. I like cats.For job-wise, I really just want to work in an area that helps people. Therapy, maybe helping the elderly, homeless, mentally or physically disabled, idk...If that fails then I wouldn't mind being a chef, but I can't cook so hopefully I learn.I can't picture myself when I'm older though so idk what I'll be doing. I'm not emotionally cut out for life really. Maybe I'll join a hippie commune and move out in the woods and marry Holden Caufield. I seriously don't know : (

I just want to be in love. If I'm in love with somebody for the rest of my life then nothing else matters. Well except cats. I like cats.For job-wise, I really just want to work in an area that helps people. Therapy, maybe helping the elderly, homeless, mentally or physically disabled, idk...If that fails then I wouldn't mind being a chef, but I can't cook so hopefully I learn.I can't picture myself when I'm older though so idk what I'll be doing. I'm not emotionally cut out for life really. Maybe I'll join a hippie commune and move out in the woods and marry Holden Caufield. I seriously don't know : (

 

Interesting. How about being a doctor? You'll make great pay, attract female nurses, help people, and it's all compatible with cats. But then again....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

.....there's all the A&P cramming.... *is cramming Anatomy and physiology*

 

 

 

< chose A&P rather than Music as his extra electoral.

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To be fair on you, math sucks for more people than not.  It's the weird people who like it.  This isn't really a solution so much as sharing past math woes, but maybe you can take some solace in that you're not alone.

 

Math is my weakest subject next to history.  When I was in community college, I took self-paced math classes that weren't worth any credit, because I know if I took the real course, I'd do poorly.  The (real) math class I took before the self-paced ones, I barley scraped by with a C.  I took how many semesters of self-paced college algebra before I was finally able to complete the courses they offered, which would prepare me for pre-calc, which is pretty much college algebra +2.  I only managed to get a B in that class because the grades were curved--I'm pretty sure my raw score was closer to a C.

 

The thing is with math is that even if you understand the material, you can still get it wrong because math is just as much about doing as it is understanding.  You'll know exactly what to do to solve a problem and still get it wrong because of some mistake somewhere.  It's very frustrating and makes it hard to know where you stand.  You can say you understand the material and totally mean it, then get a crappy grade on a test.  And it's discouraging to go into a test thinking you got it down, then get an F in return.

 

I guess in the end, the only thing that kept me afloat was not only persistence, but repetition.  I was also lucky enough to have buddies good at math willing to tutor me.  I wasn't always willing to help the teachers because I'm sort of intimidated by doing so.  Not only do they have other classmates who need help to attend to, I'm in their class so there's an added pressure to get it right.  I'd say I got it it even if I didn't because it was embarrassing to know I didn't, even though it's their job to help you get it.  My buddies were thankfully patient and I was able to keep bugging them until I genuinely got it.  But even then, it wasn't a guarantee for a good grade because as I said, math is about doing as much as understanding.  It's about practice.  Some people just have a steeper learning curve than others, and it looks like you're in the same boat as me in that your learning "curve" is more like a cliff.

 

Granted, I don't think grades ever affected me personally.  It didn't feel like a personal blow when I got a bad grade, nor did it feel like a success when I got an A or B.  I treated A's as the furthest thing that would keep me out of trouble.  Now that I'm in university and taking courses in my field, of course it'll affect me, but for things like math, I just want to get it over with and get out of there.  A's in math, to me, feel like a relief because I didn't do poorly, not a success.

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Interesting. How about being a doctor? You'll make great pay, attract female nurses, help people, and it's all compatible with cats. But then again....        .....there's all the A&P cramming.... *is cramming Anatomy and physiology*   < chose A&P rather than Music as his extra electoral.

Doctor? haha no medical school around would take me for my past grades. You're taking Anatomy and Physiology? aw man that's so cool, I'm taking Anatomy and Sports Medicine. So many vocabulary words.Yu know your school sucks when your f*cking English teacher says, "I don't know what you guys are doing here, if I were in your seats I'd leave and go apply for South Eastern [a really good, hard to get into school here]". She bashed her own place of work and I just thought it was funny yet sad at the same time, haha.
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To be fair on you, math sucks for more people than not.  It's the weird people who like it.  This isn't really a solution so much as sharing past math woes, but maybe you can take some solace in that you're not alone. Math is my weakest subject next to history.  When I was in community college, I took self-paced math classes that weren't worth any credit, because I know if I took the real course, I'd do poorly.  The (real) math class I took before the self-paced ones, I barley scraped by with a C.  I took how many semesters of self-paced college algebra before I was finally able to complete the courses they offered, which would prepare me for pre-calc, which is pretty much college algebra +2.  I only managed to get a B in that class because the grades were curved--I'm pretty sure my raw score was closer to a C. The thing is with math is that even if you understand the material, you can still get it wrong because math is just as much about doing as it is understanding.  You'll know exactly what to do to solve a problem and still get it wrong because of some mistake somewhere.  It's very frustrating and makes it hard to know where you stand.  You can say you understand the material and totally mean it, then get a crappy grade on a test.  And it's discouraging to go into a test thinking you got it down, then get an F in return. I guess in the end, the only thing that kept me afloat was not only persistence, but repetition.  I was also lucky enough to have buddies good at math willing to tutor me.  I wasn't always willing to help the teachers because I'm sort of intimidated by doing so.  Not only do they have other classmates who need help to attend to, I'm in their class so there's an added pressure to get it right.  I'd say I got it it even if I didn't because it was embarrassing to know I didn't, even though it's their job to help you get it.  My buddies were thankfully patient and I was able to keep bugging them until I genuinely got it.  But even then, it wasn't a guarantee for a good grade because as I said, math is about doing as much as understanding.  It's about practice.  Some people just have a steeper learning curve than others, and it looks like you're in the same boat as me in that your learning "curve" is more like a cliff. Granted, I don't think grades ever affected me personally.  It didn't feel like a personal blow when I got a bad grade, nor did it feel like a success when I got an A or B.  I treated A's as the furthest thing that would keep me out of trouble.  Now that I'm in university and taking courses in my field, of course it'll affect me, but for things like math, I just want to get it over with and get out of there.  A's in math, to me, feel like a relief because I didn't do poorly, not a success.

I'm weird, why don't I like math? Oh no, senpai..I think.. I think I'm an insult to fellow weirdos all around the globe...! *cries*Haha just kidding. Thank you for sharing your experiences with me. I mean, it's my fault, I know it is. Grades never really effect me except, same as you, when they're keeping me out of trouble or being the thing that gives me trouble. I guess I was just, SO disappointed because I forced myself to stay awake getting the stupid homework done only to fail the first quiz.And the teacher is as nice as anything, so it's another year where I feel bad and I just say, "Look it's not you, you're a great teacher, I love you, you're awesome but I just hate the subject you teach." I mean I'll keep trying I guess until I REALLY get pushed to my limit and REALLY give up, but this is just a major downfall for me. I realize my depression in 8th and 9th grade held me back a lot, my manic/bipolar year in 10th grade wasn't of much help, and then last year and this year when I finally put myself together, everything from the past just fcks me up.Thank you so much for sharing that with me, really. You're all so nice (even if I didn't reply to you it just means I can't express my thoughts and thanks into words) I still feel shitty but it doesn't last forever.I actually expected a lot of half-assed responses and stuff telling me about how stupid I am but you all have no idea how much this consoled me, thank you everyone.

Math is annoying.

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Math is annoying.

I agree. It's just not my thing and I'm the stubborn, immature, stupid brat who, if forced to do something I don't like, automatically won't be fully applying myself. But math just takes it to a whole new leveland yetI haveThe biggestmathdorkas my avatar*irony*

I didn't read any other post, this is just MY take on it: study when you can, do as well as you can, and just try to keep your grades up. 

That's what I do, so consider this advice, I guess? 

Hope I helped you.

And whether you're trying to be nice, positive, or just realistic, PLEASE don't tell me to stay after school because as mentioned, I HAVE tried that (and I'll continue to do so because why the firetruck not), PLEASE don't tell me it's easy for you because really, I'm not you. I'm happy with me and I don't know if I'm incredibly stupid or what, but MATH (and biology. firetrucking biology. I can do any science class except that firetrucking shit, and chemistry too that shirts boring for me) i just can't do it. Really. It's been years and I just can't.I'm not going to bullshit anybody. Math isn't my strong point. I know it's not good to give up on things and say that you can't do something, but if I could do it then I really think I'd be DOING it, rather than getting so upset by it.

 

Oh boy... there goes the usual remedy for problems like this...

 

Gimme some time to think of a unique solution, and to find the root cause of this issue. 

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I didn't read any other post, this is just MY take on it: study when you can, do as well as you can, and just try to keep your grades up. That's what I do, so consider this advice, I guess? Hope I helped you.

Easier said than done but thanks anyways.

Oh boy... there goes the usual remedy for problems like this... Gimme some time to think of a unique solution, and to find the root cause of this issue.

Lol it's okay. I just don't see the point in bothering to do homework anymore if one quiz will make those 6 or so homework grades useless. Doesn't seem exactly fair to me.I nearly firetruckin lost it today though man, we had a quiz and it made me feel so badThe Anatomy quiz cheered me up though, I don't know how I did; it was very hard but I enjoyed it.

Also, in order to possibly further cheer you up, I've encountered enough test-taking bullshit in math where I can guarantee you'll encounter at least one of the following scenarios on any given test:

 

-The things you studied hard for and generally know what you're doing on, only make up about 20 percent of the test questions.

-The things you might have glossed over in the homework are either the brunt of the test, or are worth the most points.

-The questions on the things you do know how to do are so tough, you either:

  -Focus so much time in solving it you ignore the other questions

  -Ignore it for the questions you're less good at so you pretty much lose the same amount of points no matter what you do

-The tougher questions on your math homework will be the normal questions on the quiz.  The hard questions on the quiz are the problems you probably ignored in the homework because screw it it's too hard and I gotta get this shit finished.

-The questions are easy, but there's so many of them you gotta blaze through them at the expense of making a bunch of mistakes you normally wouldn't if you were careful.

-The questions are hard, but there are so few of them you have less margin for error, so lord help you if it's on material you're not good at.

 

It's kinda like Murphy's Laws, but for math.  Eww.

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