I recently saw the E3 trailer for BBS, and it made me think who the secret boss really is. It can't be Xemnas, because Xehanort hadn't lost his heart for a while after the events of BBS. But remember when he locked the heart (we don't know which one) at the end of BBS? Maybe that person had created a Nobody and a Heartless from THAT heart before Ansem SoD/Xemnas was even created. That's my theory, what do you guys think? ***I think the boss was the Nobody of Terra or MX, but most likely Terra***.

New info about the secret boss has me stumped. The Keyblade you get from him is called "No Name", implying that the boss is some sort of Nobody, or non-human.

 

TAV can fight him, so its not an exclusive boss per say..but it still raises the question, who and what is this person?

New info about the secret boss has me stumped. The Keyblade you get from him is called "No Name", implying that the boss is some sort of Nobody, or non-human.

 

TAV can fight him, so its not an exclusive boss per say..but it still raises the question, who and what is this person?

 

Going on the current info, i have to say its someone related to xemnas/MX in some way. If the keyblade you get really does mean that, then he has SOMETHING to do with xemnas. If its not, however, the way i see it is he has to be related to MX in some way then, because of the Org13 cloak.

 

TL;DR: Someone connected to Xemnas/MX, probably a future character that has yet to be revealed.

 

Edit: Unless the Org13 cloak is just there to either throw people off, or used as a placeholder, as SE designs him for future use.

I agree. I mean, the Ethreal blades were a dead give away that this boss had some kind of Xemnas/MX/Xehanort connection, and the name of the Keyblade cements that idea. A summary of what or who I think this person is.

 

1. Representation of a new KH enemy, possibly formed from MX or Xehanort.

 

2. MX's Nobody.

 

3. The "fixed sentient" Nomura mentioned.

 

Only three options I can think of ATM. Its late :S

Alright, First post in a looong time, So I'd just like to say it's nice to be back .. Anyways, back to buisness. I personally think it's Either That figure Terra saw at Destiny's Island as he watched Riku, OR, Ansem the Wise. Why Ansem the Wise? Well, who says the Mysterious Figure was out to kill our hero's? He could just be testing their powers. We all know Ansem the Wise is going to play a much bigger role in Kingdom Hearts III seeing as how he's trapped with Aqua in the Land of Darkness. Also, I have a feeling that Ansem is hiding something.. Why? His machine, The one that destroyed Kingdom Hearts and "took his life"? What IF, it also gave him a Heartless and a nobody? Like Sora? What IF, That Mysterious Figure was either his Heartless or Nobody? It could be possible, since we know that Heartless's can be smart and full fledged beings (-cough.- Ansem from KH I -cough.-).

The figure Terra saw= Young Master Xehanort.

 

 

And your second theory is illogical. If he had created a Heartless and a Nobody, HE wouldn't be in the Realm of Darkness.

I believe that these two secret bosses are related to master xehanort and vanitas. They will return as antagonists but because they exist at this time it is difficult to say when we will be seeing them because Vanitas' spirit doesn't seem to be the sort to go walking off on its own and if mysterious figure can move about freely what was he doing all this time. Lingering sentiment might also play a part in whenever this story may be told.

My new updated stand on this boss:

 

I think it is the Somebody of Terranort, or some form of his Somebody. Why is this?

 

Lets look at the facts.

 

MF can use Keyblade abilities, as well as the abilities of other Org. Members (the only person that could do this was Xemnas). That implies a big connection. MF must be able to wield a Keyblade and ETHREAL blades, who else could do this besides Xehanort?

 

Exactly why would Xehanort go back in time? To stop Terra, Aqua, and Ven from doing certain things, possibly causing the future to change.

My new updated stand on this boss:

 

I think it is the Somebody of Terranort, or some form of his Somebody. Why is this?

 

Lets look at the facts.

 

MF can use Keyblade abilities, as well as the abilities of other Org. Members (the only person that could do this was Xemnas). That implies a big connection. MF must be able to wield a Keyblade and ETHREAL blades, who else could do this besides Xehanort?

 

Exactly why would Xehanort go back in time? To stop Terra, Aqua, and Ven from doing certain things, possibly causing the future to change.

 

 

One of the better theories i've read, but one thing doesn't make sense, at least to me. Before he fights, he seems to be stalking them, maybe even studying them. And during the fight, he doesn't seem like he's trying to kill/stop them. While i think its someone related to M.X/Xehanort, I'm not getting the vibe that he's trying to do anything evil.

 

And we can't rule out the possibility that it's a completely new character.

me thinks its has something to do with Vanitas or the keybladewars

or Terra heartless :0

 

i mean xehanort as apprentice lost his heart he made kh1 ansem and Xemnas

Xemnas nobody kh1 ansem heartless

Xemnas was talking to the armor calling it friend and ansem kh1 said about the same things terranort after beat terra armor.

so wat if kh1 ansem is MX heartless and Xemnas is terra nobody so that would leave terra heartless and MX nobody

Could it be possible that it is terra's or master Xehanort's nobody since Xehanort took Terra's body and only Terra's mind was left in the armor. And when the heartless was created two nobodys could have been created like with Roxas and Namine. I also heard that Terra's ven's and Aqua's master's heart went into Terra so it could be him too it's either that or im totally wrong

Namine isn't a true Nobody, just sayin.

 

But I was thinking about that, how it's almost impossible for Xemnas to be Xehanort's Nobody, since Xehanort is technically TWO people.

Nobody= one body + one soul.

 

Xehanort= three hearts, one body, two souls.

It's confusing, but I do think that two possible Nobodies could've been created from Xehanort, like you said.

then what about terra its his heart, right?

then what about terra its his heart, right?

 

It's his heart, along with MX's and Eraqus'.

i remeber someone saying that its the 15th member of the org cause his stance in the tralier is like a clock one pointing at 12 other pointing at 3 add them up 15 im just saying this its not my theory im not a theory stealer

 

 

edit:i found the thread that said it it was SK3 and RoxSox

Alright, First post in a looong time, So I'd just like to say it's nice to be back .. Anyways, back to buisness. I personally think it's Either That figure Terra saw at Destiny's Island as he watched Riku, OR, Ansem the Wise. Why Ansem the Wise? Well, who says the Mysterious Figure was out to kill our hero's? He could just be testing their powers. We all know Ansem the Wise is going to play a much bigger role in Kingdom Hearts III seeing as how he's trapped with Aqua in the Land of Darkness. Also, I have a feeling that Ansem is hiding something.. Why? His machine, The one that destroyed Kingdom Hearts and "took his life"? What IF, it also gave him a Heartless and a nobody? Like Sora? What IF, That Mysterious Figure was either his Heartless or Nobody? It could be possible, since we know that Heartless's can be smart and full fledged beings (-cough.- Ansem from KH I -cough.-).

I think i agree with this theory, mainly because i've been saying it for the last month, but for the whole Ansem being in the Realm of Darkness, i thought that he was there between KH1 and KH2, and then he gets out of the RoD and then a Nobody/Heartless was made when the explosion happened.

 

Thats the theory im sticking with, unless somebody can prove it wrong beeyond any doubts (because lets face it, the most unlikely thing is whats probably gonna happen, because Nomura LOVES being annoying like that)

Has anyone noticed that the pattern on mf's eatheral blades look like a flower

As soon as I saw that part, I have been doing some investigation by rewatching the scene over and over, as I come up with ideas to make theories.

 

Now let's go with SoraKing3's idea of a non-Nobody (and sorry, I must use the picture that you had). As you can see, SoraKing is correct about the symbol on his blades:

 

 

You notice that they are not a Nobody symbol, nor any symbol at all that looks similar to this.

 

So here are my ideas:

 

-Not Xehanort (who knows anymore).

-Dealing with another version of Xehanort (oh great, another Xehanort to kill. That's just dandy).

-New character (highly doubtfull, but still good. We could use more new characters)

-New enemy that's part of new creatures (you don't know if this one has a strong will to become humanoid)

 

Now something tells me that he is Xehanort, but something tells me he's not. But in my gut, I think it's not Xehanort, or not truely Xehanort. Secret bosses usually have important meaning with new games....

 

But let's assume he is a Nobody (It actually looks as if it may just be a design, with no real importance). Only logical explainations are:

 

-Future version of Xemnas (although it definitly won't happen, I mean we already got Xemnas as a secret boss in KH: FM)

-First ever Nobody (that's is the first Nobody to be humanoid, or even just the first one Nobody in general. I really don't believe Nomura when he mentioned that there would be no Nobodies in Birth By Sleep or something like that)

-Actual Nobody of Master Xehanort.

 

To those who will probably either troll or act like an idiot about him being the Nobody of Master Xehanort:

 

Remember when Xehanort released his heart? Well I think that Nobodies can be born even when hearts of the fallen are not swallowed by darkness. Kairi and Namine proves this, regardless of Kairi being a Princess of Heart or Namine being a "special" Nobody. I think it just needs a body and a soul, rather than that and having the heart consumed by darkness. Maybe the soul and body was then used to make the Nobody. Makes sense to me. Idk how to explain about having a Heartless, but it could be a special reason, like for Kairi. Besides, MX's heart was already being consumed by darkness as he let it flow through his heart, so there's no surprises there.

 

Either way, the only thing that wraps this up is that Nomura loves to firetruck with our minds....a hell of a lot.

 

 

I just noticed if you go on the Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance website the symbol on his blades are pretty similar to the one symbol in the background.

I don't really see a resemblance between those two symbols, but that's just me.

OH MY FREAKIN GOD

 

ITS NOT XEMNAS/SENTIMENT/ATW/ETC

IT IS A BRAND NEW CHARACTER, NO ONE ELSE HAS THAT FIGHTING STYLE OR WEAPON

 

Mind you that there will be MORE games after KH3 WITHOUT MX being the villain

His fighting style is reminiscent of Xemnas. It just has way more moves than he normally does.

I'm starting to think it's something to do with the multiple Xemnas' and Ansems...

How about a re-completed Terra, from the future? Seeing as most of the super secret bosses you face in the Kingdom Hearts games have something to do with Xehanort/Xemnas, the Lingering Stagnent, this my guess. I mean "Terra's" Nobody (Xemnas) was defeated, and his 'heartless" destroyed, what are the chances they some how reunited and become a newly formed Terra.

 

I mean they are the same height, and has a similar fighting style Xemnas. And maybe because he was reborned in such a way, he wasn't able to reobtain his keyblade, but those ethereal blades instead. As well as being able to wield both light and darkness of his heart through his experiences as that? Also why would do you think it would be hardest fighting it with Terra? I mean you would be fighting the you from the future who knows all your moves? I don't I may be, and most likely will be, wrong but that's my guess

How about a re-completed Terra, from the future? Seeing as most of the super secret bosses you face in the Kingdom Hearts games have something to do with Xehanort/Xemnas, the Lingering Stagnent, this my guess. I mean "Terra's" Nobody (Xemnas) was defeated, and his 'heartless" destroyed, what are the chances they some how reunited and become a newly formed Terra.

 

I mean they are the same height, and has a similar fighting style Xemnas. And maybe because he was reborned in such a way, he wasn't able to reobtain his keyblade, but those ethereal blades instead. As well as being able to wield both light and darkness of his heart through his experiences as that? Also why would do you think it would be hardest fighting it with Terra? I mean you would be fighting the you from the future who knows all your moves? I don't I may be, and most likely will be, wrong but that's my guess

 

Terra fighting himself would be paradoxical, so that's a no-go. Because what if the Mysterious Figure actually canonically defeated and killed Terra? It would cease to exist, thus causing some serious shit to go down.

 

How about a re-completed Terra, from the future? Seeing as most of the super secret bosses you face in the Kingdom Hearts games have something to do with Xehanort/Xemnas, the Lingering Stagnent, this my guess. I mean "Terra's" Nobody (Xemnas) was defeated, and his 'heartless" destroyed, what are the chances they some how reunited and become a newly formed Terra.

 

I mean they are the same height, and has a similar fighting style Xemnas. And maybe because he was reborned in such a way, he wasn't able to reobtain his keyblade, but those ethereal blades instead. As well as being able to wield both light and darkness of his heart through his experiences as that? Also why would do you think it would be hardest fighting it with Terra? I mean you would be fighting the you from the future who knows all your moves? I don't I may be, and most likely will be, wrong but that's my guess

 

Terra fighting himself would be paradoxical, so that's a no-go. Because what if the Mysterious Figure actually canonically defeated and killed Terra? It would cease to exist, thus causing some serious shit to go down.

 

The fights didn't canonically happen

And the MF didn't canonically kill Terra, so I don't know why you brought that up at all.

Even if the fight wasn't canon, it is still a paradox nonetheless. And I know MF didn't kill Terra, I was merely emphasizing my point.

 

To add to that, if it were a reborn Terra, how would he have some of the moves MF has? I can understand the Org. XIII moves, since Xemnas was shown to be able to use other members abilities, but only Vanitas has been shown to use an X-Blade attack. Plus you have to think about why Terra would go "back into the past". If Terra eventually is reborn, he really wouldn't have a reason to go back and fight himself and his friends, unless it was to stop them from suffering the fates that they did, which would still mess up a lot of things.

I bet Nomura is gonna make MF some physical form of Kingdom Hearts