It seems every time something happens in Kingdom Hearts, it was Nomura.

Nomura isn't the sole creator and owner of Kingdom Hearts. He's the character designer and director. He doesn't write the script, he doesn't choose the release date, if a character doesn't make it into the game, there's a good chance it was someone other than Nomura who did it. There's a reason videogames have teams, because no single person could make a game. Nomura also doesn't decide what console a game comes out for (He can give a suggestion, but ultimately it's Square Enixes call)

So seriously, every time a game gets delayed, or a world doesn't make it in, or a character says an odd lien of dialog, pretty much any complaint that doesn't involve character designs, try and remember that it wasn't Nomuras fault, it was probably someone else. Most likely Square Enix and Disneys marketing departments.

 

Anyways, I'm with hatok. The Nomura hate is getting ridiculous, and really just plain unjustified. The guy really doesn't deserve this.

 

Even so, the guy doesn't deserve to be freaking worshiped. Yeah, he helped (keyword: "helped") make Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. That's great. It doesn't make him the most amazing person ever.

 

And, by the way, just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean that their opinion is "unjustified". Hate to break it to you.

 

Have you seen the Nomura hate lately? People going around blaming him for anything they're not satisfied, things as insignificant as the game being too easy, certain plot points not going the way they wanted, etc. Worship isn't the right word here. Blame him for something? Well excuse me for trying to defend the guy when all he's trying to do is make an enjoyable game for us. It's not like the overall process of doing so is as easy as a walk in the park.

 

The KH fanbase isn't just limited to this site. Everything I said is based off of everything I've seen from forums to youtube comments.

 

Go ahead and continue to flame him if you want. At this point, I really don't care.

 

 

Anyways, I'm with hatok. The Nomura hate is getting ridiculous, and really just plain unjustified. The guy really doesn't deserve this.

 

Even so, the guy doesn't deserve to be freaking worshiped. Yeah, he helped (keyword: "helped") make Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. That's great. It doesn't make him the most amazing person ever.

 

And, by the way, just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean that their opinion is "unjustified". Hate to break it to you.

 

Have you seen the Nomura hate lately? People going around blaming him for anything they're not satisfied, things as insignificant as the game being too easy, certain plot points not going the way they wanted, etc.

Those are the ignorant Nomura haters, a.k.a. the ones who are just looking for someone to blame. Not all people who hate Nomura hate him for stupid, insignificant reasons like those.

 

Worship isn't the right word here.

Thanks for completely missing my point.

 

Blame him for something? Well excuse me for trying to defend the guy when all he's trying to do is make an enjoyable game for us. It's not like the overall process of doing so is as easy as a walk in the park.

There are people who work twice as hard on their games as Nomura, yet their work gets little or no recognition.

 

The KH fanbase isn't just limited to this site. Everything I said is based off of everything I've seen from forums to youtube comments.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. I don't know what I'd do without you.

 

Go ahead and continue to flame him if you want. At this point, I really don't care.

 

I will, thanks.

 

 

 

Anyways, I'm with hatok. The Nomura hate is getting ridiculous, and really just plain unjustified. The guy really doesn't deserve this.

 

Even so, the guy doesn't deserve to be freaking worshiped. Yeah, he helped (keyword: "helped") make Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. That's great. It doesn't make him the most amazing person ever.

 

And, by the way, just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean that their opinion is "unjustified". Hate to break it to you.

 

Have you seen the Nomura hate lately? People going around blaming him for anything they're not satisfied, things as insignificant as the game being too easy, certain plot points not going the way they wanted, etc.

Those are the ignorant Nomura haters, a.k.a. the ones who are just looking for someone to blame. Not all people who hate Nomura hate him for stupid, insignificant reasons like those.

There is no significant reason to hate a person you've never met, who lives far away from you. Unless Nomura killed your family, tehre really is no reason to hate him.

 

Worship isn't the right word here.

Thanks for completely missing my point.

How is that missing the point? You said people shouldn't worship Nomura (Which is like saying people shouldn't love a flavour of ice cream, it's their choice) and Reversal is saying that worship isn't the right word to describe not disliking the guy

 

Blame him for something? Well excuse me for trying to defend the guy when all he's trying to do is make an enjoyable game for us. It's not like the overall process of doing so is as easy as a walk in the park.

There are people who work twice as hard on their games as Nomura, yet their work gets little or no recognition.

Because he's the director, it was his idea. Artist number 398 who drew frames in the Twilight Town logo doesn't get much recognition because it would be unfair too single out a single of hundreds of workers, and it would be to time consuming to recognize each one. And it's not like you can argue that Nomura has done less for Kingdom Hearts, without him there would be no Kingdom hearts. And for that matter, he works on the game quite a bit for a Director.

 

The KH fanbase isn't just limited to this site. Everything I said is based off of everything I've seen from forums to youtube comments.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. I don't know what I'd do without you.

How to have your spot taken seriously: Don't insult a person by calling them names.

 

Go ahead and continue to flame him if you want. At this point, I really don't care.

 

I will, thanks.

What. Wow. That's a horrible response. When a person says that, you don't say you'll continue. For that matter, you don't ADMIT you're flaming. What are you trying to accomplish if you're flaming? Are you just argumentative? Or something else? i can't tell if you're trying to pull off some 'Edgy and Suave' persona, or if that's actually how you are.

 

Commends in Bold (Too lazy to make separate quotes.)

On another note, he didn't help make Final Fantasy. Nomrua wasn't on teh Square Enix team until Final Fantasy 4 (As a tester) and he didn't do any 'real' work until Final Fantasy 5.

Anyways' date=' I'm with hatok. The Nomura hate is getting ridiculous, and really just plain unjustified. The guy really doesn't deserve this.

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Even so, the guy doesn't deserve to be freaking worshiped. Yeah, he helped (keyword: "helped") make Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. That's great. It doesn't make him the most amazing person ever.

 

And, by the way, just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean that their opinion is "unjustified". Hate to break it to you.

 

Have you seen the Nomura hate lately? People going around blaming him for anything they're not satisfied, things as insignificant as the game being too easy, certain plot points not going the way they wanted, etc.

 

Those are the ignorant Nomura haters, a.k.a. the ones who are just looking for someone to blame. Not all people who hate Nomura hate him for stupid, insignificant reasons like those.

There is no significant reason to hate a person you've never met, who lives far away from you. Unless Nomura killed your family, tehre really is no reason to hate him.

So the only option is to love him? Re-phrase that in a way that's understandable, please.

 

Worship isn't the right word here.

 

Thanks for completely missing my point.

How is that missing the point? You said people shouldn't worship Nomura (Which is like saying people shouldn't love a flavour of ice cream' date=' it's their choice) and Reversal is saying that worship isn't the right word to describe not disliking the guy

Okay...when did I say people shouldn't worship Nomura? I remember saying that he shouldn't be worshiped JUST because of his association with KH.

 

Blame him for something? Well excuse me for trying to defend the guy when all he's trying to do is make an enjoyable game for us. It's not like the overall process of doing so is as easy as a walk in the park.

 

There are people who work twice as hard on their games as Nomura, yet their work gets little or no recognition.

Because he's the director, it was his idea. Artist number 398 who drew frames in the Twilight Town logo doesn't get much recognition because it would be unfair too single out a single of hundreds of workers, and it would be to time consuming to recognize each one. And it's not like you can argue that Nomura has done less for Kingdom Hearts, without him there would be no Kingdom hearts. And for that matter, he works on the game quite a bit for a Director.

I wasn't talking about KH. At all. Notice how I said "their games". I'm talking about the directors of other games that nobody really knows. And I'm not saying that Nomura doesn't do a lot for KH. I'm just saying that there are other directors who have worked even harder than him.

 

The KH fanbase isn't just limited to this site. Everything I said is based off of everything I've seen from forums to youtube comments.

 

Thank you' date=' Captain Obvious. I don't know what I'd do without you.

How to have your spot taken seriously: Don't insult a person by calling them names.

Don't make obvious, or unrelated points, and I won't be forced to call you names. But, of course, the internet is srs bsns, and everything should be taken completely seriously, amirite?

 

Go ahead and continue to flame him if you want. At this point, I really don't care.

 

I will, thanks.

What. Wow. That's a horrible response. When a person says that, you don't say you'll continue. For that matter, you don't ADMIT you're flaming. What are you trying to accomplish if you're flaming? Are you just argumentative? Or something else? i can't tell if you're trying to pull off some 'Edgy and Suave' persona, or if that's actually how you are.

So I can't dislike Nomura because I don't know him, but you can say anything you want about me, though you really don't know anything about me either? Makes perfect sense, amirite?

You realize I was being sarcastic when I said that, right? I'm only arguing because you're giving me a reason to argue, hon. If you have a problem with that, don't reply to me, mmm'kay?

Yes, this is how I actually am. ;D I don't have no idea how that figures into the conversation at all, but, you're the one who asked.

Anyways' date=' I'm with hatok. The Nomura hate is getting ridiculous, and really just plain unjustified. The guy really doesn't deserve this.

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Even so, the guy doesn't deserve to be freaking worshiped. Yeah, he helped (keyword: "helped") make Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. That's great. It doesn't make him the most amazing person ever.

 

And, by the way, just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean that their opinion is "unjustified". Hate to break it to you.

 

Have you seen the Nomura hate lately? People going around blaming him for anything they're not satisfied, things as insignificant as the game being too easy, certain plot points not going the way they wanted, etc.

 

Those are the ignorant Nomura haters, a.k.a. the ones who are just looking for someone to blame. Not all people who hate Nomura hate him for stupid, insignificant reasons like those.

There is no significant reason to hate a person you've never met, who lives far away from you. Unless Nomura killed your family, tehre really is no reason to hate him.

So the only option is to love him? Re-phrase that in a way that's understandable, please.

Nope, I have no real effect on you, so I can't stop you from hating him. But in an ideal world, people would either like him, or remain neutral.

 

Worship isn't the right word here.

 

Thanks for completely missing my point.

How is that missing the point? You said people shouldn't worship Nomura (Which is like saying people shouldn't love a flavour of ice cream' date=' it's their choice) and Reversal is saying that worship isn't the right word to describe not disliking the guy

Okay...when did I say people shouldn't worship Nomura? I remember saying that he shouldn't be worshiped JUST because of his association with KH.

 

Blame him for something? Well excuse me for trying to defend the guy when all he's trying to do is make an enjoyable game for us. It's not like the overall process of doing so is as easy as a walk in the park.

 

There are people who work twice as hard on their games as Nomura, yet their work gets little or no recognition.

Because he's the director, it was his idea. Artist number 398 who drew frames in the Twilight Town logo doesn't get much recognition because it would be unfair too single out a single of hundreds of workers, and it would be to time consuming to recognize each one. And it's not like you can argue that Nomura has done less for Kingdom Hearts, without him there would be no Kingdom hearts. And for that matter, he works on the game quite a bit for a Director.

I wasn't talking about KH. At all. Notice how I said "their games". I'm talking about the directors of other games that nobody really knows. And I'm not saying that Nomura doesn't do a lot for KH. I'm just saying that there are other directors who have worked even harder than him.

Oops. Misread 'Their' as 'The' Anyways, other people working on other games doesn't really seem relevant to Nomrua in any ways.Sure there are directors who work harder, but there is always someone better than the last person.

 

The KH fanbase isn't just limited to this site. Everything I said is based off of everything I've seen from forums to youtube comments.

 

Thank you' date=' Captain Obvious. I don't know what I'd do without you.

How to have your spot taken seriously: Don't insult a person by calling them names.

Don't make obvious, or unrelated points, and I won't be forced to call you names. But, of course, the internet is srs bsns, and everything should be taken completely seriously, amirite?

 

Go ahead and continue to flame him if you want. At this point, I really don't care.

 

I will, thanks.

What. Wow. That's a horrible response. When a person says that, you don't say you'll continue. For that matter, you don't ADMIT you're flaming. What are you trying to accomplish if you're flaming? Are you just argumentative? Or something else? i can't tell if you're trying to pull off some 'Edgy and Suave' persona, or if that's actually how you are.

So I can't dislike Nomura because I don't know him, but you can say anything you want about me, though you really don't know anything about me either? Makes perfect sense, amirite?

You realize I was being sarcastic when I said that, right? I'm only arguing because you're giving me a reason to argue, hon. If you have a problem with that, don't reply to me, mmm'kay?

Yes, this is how I actually am. ;D I don't have no idea how that figures into the conversation at all, but, you're the one who asked.

The internet doesn't come with a built in sarcasm detector, yet. And unfortunately, on this forum it's sometimes hard to figure out when a person is being sarcastic. Anyways, a person can say whatever they want about a person (So long as your country supports free speech) I'm certainly guilty of any complaint I have about others. Unfortunately, the world we live in has the mentality that Hypocrisy=invalidity, a person can say something idealistic, but not be idealistic themselves. If you ask me, it's a way for people to shirk self improvement. I'm getting a bit off topic (Not even talking about you any more )

And the 'Way you always are thing was about the comment you were bing sarcastic about, so my original comment is irrelevant now

 

So, in short, Nomura is just some guy. If a person wants to look up to him, that's great. But he certainly doesn't deserve the hate he generates.

Anyways' date=' I'm with hatok. The Nomura hate is getting ridiculous, and really just plain unjustified. The guy really doesn't deserve this.

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Even so, the guy doesn't deserve to be freaking worshiped. Yeah, he helped (keyword: "helped") make Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. That's great. It doesn't make him the most amazing person ever.

 

And, by the way, just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean that their opinion is "unjustified". Hate to break it to you.

 

Have you seen the Nomura hate lately? People going around blaming him for anything they're not satisfied, things as insignificant as the game being too easy, certain plot points not going the way they wanted, etc.

 

Those are the ignorant Nomura haters, a.k.a. the ones who are just looking for someone to blame. Not all people who hate Nomura hate him for stupid, insignificant reasons like those.

There is no significant reason to hate a person you've never met, who lives far away from you. Unless Nomura killed your family, tehre really is no reason to hate him.

So the only option is to love him? Re-phrase that in a way that's understandable, please.

Nope, I have no real effect on you, so I can't stop you from hating him. But in an ideal world, people would either like him, or remain neutral.

Ah, that would be the case if we DID live in an ideal world. But, sadly, we don't, so haters are going to be there, no matter what. Haters gonna hate. XDDDD /shot

 

Blame him for something? Well excuse me for trying to defend the guy when all he's trying to do is make an enjoyable game for us. It's not like the overall process of doing so is as easy as a walk in the park.

 

There are people who work twice as hard on their games as Nomura' date=' yet their work gets little or no recognition.

Because he's the director, it was his idea. Artist number 398 who drew frames in the Twilight Town logo doesn't get much recognition because it would be unfair too single out a single of hundreds of workers, and it would be to time consuming to recognize each one. And it's not like you can argue that Nomura has done less for Kingdom Hearts, without him there would be no Kingdom hearts. And for that matter, he works on the game quite a bit for a Director.

I wasn't talking about KH. At all. Notice how I said "their games". I'm talking about the directors of other games that nobody really knows. And I'm not saying that Nomura doesn't do a lot for KH. I'm just saying that there are other directors who have worked even harder than him.

Oops. Misread 'Their' as 'The' Anyways, other people working on other games doesn't really seem relevant to Nomrua in any ways.Sure there are directors who work harder, but there is always someone better than the last person.

Gah....that's true. But, still....you've never played a game and went, "Damn....I wish more people knew about this!"? Though, meh, I digress.

 

Go ahead and continue to flame him if you want. At this point, I really don't care.

 

I will, thanks.

What. Wow. That's a horrible response. When a person says that, you don't say you'll continue. For that matter, you don't ADMIT you're flaming. What are you trying to accomplish if you're flaming? Are you just argumentative? Or something else? i can't tell if you're trying to pull off some 'Edgy and Suave' persona, or if that's actually how you are.

So I can't dislike Nomura because I don't know him, but you can say anything you want about me, though you really don't know anything about me either? Makes perfect sense, amirite?

You realize I was being sarcastic when I said that, right? I'm only arguing because you're giving me a reason to argue, hon. If you have a problem with that, don't reply to me, mmm'kay?

Yes, this is how I actually am. ;D I don't have no idea how that figures into the conversation at all, but, you're the one who asked.

The internet doesn't come with a built in sarcasm detector, yet. And unfortunately, on this forum it's sometimes hard to figure out when a person is being sarcastic. Anyways, a person can say whatever they want about a person (So long as your country supports free speech) I'm certainly guilty of any complaint I have about others. Unfortunately, the world we live in has the mentality that Hypocrisy=invalidity, a person can say something idealistic, but not be idealistic themselves. If you ask me, it's a way for people to shirk self improvement. I'm getting a bit off topic (Not even talking about you any more )

And the 'Way you always are thing was about the comment you were bing sarcastic about, so my original comment is irrelevant now

Mmmm, I guess I have to agree with that. o3o

 

So, in short, Nomura is just some guy. If a person wants to look up to him, that's great. But he certainly doesn't deserve the hate he generates.

*not going to say anything to this, because I'm too tired to start another argument *

Yeah, more people need to play Little Kings Story and Okami.

And I think we scared everybody out of this topic.

...I think we did.....damn.....

._.' dayum that was a heated discussion :'D now I'm gonna start to love Nomura now lol

"Why does everybody blame Nomura for everything?" Its only natural to blame the figurehead and not the one who is actually in charge.

...I think we did.....damn.....

 

lolz, i love your pic demyx

 

anyways, i didnt pay attention to most of that, lolz, but that looked pretty heated lolz, bottom line, Noruma (or however you spell it, i can never remember) isnt entirely responsible for what happens lolz, but im sure everyone already thinks that lolz, so im just restating everything everyone thinks......:|