The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted December 29, 2015 Hey there everyone, how's it going!? So then, while thinking to myself, as I normally due at times, I started thinking a lot about Xehanort's true goal to achieve Kingdom Hearts by attaining Seven lights and Thirteen darknesses to achieve his goal. And then I thought about what Xemnas and Young Xehanort said regarding this matter, and something that comes to my mind is...has this been going on from further back than we realize? I mean, think about it! Xemnas might have sent a certain number of Organization members to Castle Oblivion to root out the traitors within their ranks, but what if this was also a possible means of luring in Sora and Riku? What if Xehanort had planned for Sora and Riku to come to Castle Oblivion, thus ordering Xemnas to send the certain number of Organization members that he sent? If this were the case, then Xehanort probably did this to test both Sora and Riku's strengths, to see if they would be fitting enough to become Seekers of Darkness! Xemnas himself said that some of the members were inadequate, and that they needed to be replaced! So what if he devised the whole scheme in Castle Oblivion to draw in Sora and Riku to eliminate the traitors within their ranks without them having to sully their hands, while also having the added bonus of determining whether they would be suitable candidates to bear a part of Xehanort's heart? In Riku's case, it would be even more so, considering that Ansem was haunting him, and in doing so, he might have been trying to force Riku into submission, thus turning him over into a Seeker! Riku clearly overcomed Ansem, and so that's when Xehanort lost interest in him, since he had developed a resistance to darkness! Sora though, was still ripe for the taking! By making Sora lose his memories, Xehanort might have wanted to see if Sora would become even more powerful while attempting to organize the whole mess that was his memory loss during his journey in Castle Oblivion! If that were so, then Xehanort would come to realize that even with Sora's memories gone, he'd still be a force to be reckoned with, and so that would make him even more suitable to be a Seeker of Darkness! Young Xehanort stated that they had tried to make Roxas into a Seeker, but he had gained awareness of himself, so that was rendered void as well! And so, the only candidate left was Sora! With Sora being the only other viable candidate that was weak against the darkness, Xehanort decided to put the final act of his plan into motion, therefore making sure he'd have a hand in Sora and Riku's Mark Of Mastery exam, therefore trapping Sora and bringing him to the point of being swallowed by the darkness! If it hadn't been for Lea, Sora would have become a Seeker, but even with the outcome of things, Xehanort didn't seem to be at all bothered by the results of his actions! Could this mean there was one more candidate aside from Sora that we don't know of? Good lord, so much to compile in my brain! X_X But I'm really glad I typed this out, because this was something I wanted to post here all day! So then, what do you all think of this? I know, I know, I probably have some things wrong in some areas, but hey, I did my best! 2 irinasi and Shimmy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RikuFangirl2008 1,368 Posted December 29, 2015 Since the very beginning of when I first played DDD, I always wonder why pick Sora of all people. I think you pretty much answered my question. And ever since the whole mindblowing experience. I kept thinking to myself that if there weren't any traitors and Roxas and Axel wouldn't been so wrapped up over "friendship", all 13 of them would've been part Xehanort. Or heck the use of Xion getting rid of Roxas (by draining his power and do whatever comes next to completely knock him out of existence) still I would've though all 13 of them would've become part Xehanort. And there is your 13 Seeker of Darknesses that we have to put a stop to. I mean Riku would've been a worthy candidate ( of what Young Xehanort said...) but he gained a resistance to darkness. Roxas would've been one, but (of what you said), he wouldn't fit the bill either. So they picked Sora. ( I guess there were like: "This kid is strong and ruined our potential plans in the past. We need him in our group." Da da da). 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul_Seeker 753 Posted December 29, 2015 They probably figured Sora was dark enough after he used Heartless to kill 999 of their own brethren. Xehanort saw this and said, "Sora has no chill. NEW VESSEL, BOYS." In the end, Sora was too dark for Xehanort and used the power of his edginess to summon Lea and save himself. That was the true DDD story. #NeverForget1000HeartlessBattle 2 Shimmy and The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Sideris 1,551 Posted December 29, 2015 Well , I'm pretty sure the 13 vessels will be completed anyway . As for Xehanort having a secret candidate to fill Sora's spot in there , we can just wait and see who it's gonna be . 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted December 30, 2015 Since the very beginning of when I first played DDD, I always wonder why pick Sora of all people. I think you pretty much answered my question. And ever since the whole mindblowing experience. I kept thinking to myself that if there weren't any traitors and Roxas and Axel wouldn't been so wrapped up over "friendship", all 13 of them would've been part Xehanort. Or heck the use of Xion getting rid of Roxas (by draining his power and do whatever comes next to completely knock him out of existence) still I would've though all 13 of them would've become part Xehanort. And there is your 13 Seeker of Darknesses that we have to put a stop to. I mean Riku would've been a worthy candidate ( of what Young Xehanort said...) but he gained a resistance to darkness. Roxas would've been one, but (of what you said), he wouldn't fit the bill either. So they picked Sora. ( I guess there were like: "This kid is strong and ruined our potential plans in the past. We need him in our group." Da da da). Yep, that's probably another reason why Xehanort chose Sora! He himself said that he was a dull, ordinary boy, unlike any other Keyblade Wielder he had ever seen! He probably hadn't expected Sora to foil his plans, and seeing how he did, he figured he could exploit Sora's power and use it as his own! But, plans have backfired, or so it would seem. They probably figured Sora was dark enough after he used Heartless to kill 999 of their own brethren. Xehanort saw this and said, "Sora has no chill. NEW VESSEL, BOYS." In the end, Sora was too dark for Xehanort and used the power of his edginess to summon Lea and save himself. That was the true DDD story. #NeverForget1000HeartlessBattle Lol, that's also quite an interesting theory! Well , I'm pretty sure the 13 vessels will be completed anyway . As for Xehanort having a secret candidate to fill Sora's spot in there , we can just wait and see who it's gonna be . Indeed! I wonder who this final vessel will be...gahh, just thinking about it makes my mind wonder!!! X_X 2 Nick Sideris and RikuFangirl2008 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmy 458 Posted December 30, 2015 //*loud screeching while simultaneously nodding lots* This makes a lot of sense wow. In complete honesty I always interpreted Xemnas's primary goal in Castle Oblivion as simply ridding himself off the unfit candidates while looking for the Chamber of Awakening (correct me if I'm wrong it's been ages since I've played Chain of Memories but weren't the basement trio sent to do research along with Saïx's plan of getting rid of them. I could be remembering wrong though again it's been ages). Testing Sora and Riku never even crossed my mind as a possibility but y'know this actually makes tons of sense. As for the thirteenth vessel? Nomura can makes any new character he pleases while Xehanort has time travel on his side so who even knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) //*loud screeching while simultaneously nodding lots* This makes a lot of sense wow. In complete honesty I always interpreted Xemnas's primary goal in Castle Oblivion as simply ridding himself off the unfit candidates while looking for the Chamber of Awakening (correct me if I'm wrong it's been ages since I've played Chain of Memories but weren't the basement trio sent to do research along with Saïx's plan of getting rid of them. I could be remembering wrong though again it's been ages). Testing Sora and Riku never even crossed my mind as a possibility but y'know this actually makes tons of sense. As for the thirteenth vessel? Nomura can makes any new character he pleases while Xehanort has time travel on his side so who even knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Yep, if I'm not mistaken, you are right on Xemnas searching for the Chamber Of Awakening, because they were trying to search Castle Oblivion for said chamber to find Ventus! And I think you are also correct in regards to the basement trio as well! But yeah, this was probably all an elaborate experiment to determine whether or not Sora and Riku were worthy candidates! And you're right about the Thirteenth Vessel! For all we know, it could be a completely new character Nomura makes up from scratch! Edited December 30, 2015 by The Transcendent Key 1 Shimmy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted December 30, 2015 Hey there everyone, how's it going!? So then, while thinking to myself, as I normally due at times, I started thinking a lot about Xehanort's true goal to achieve Kingdom Hearts by attaining Seven lights and Thirteen darknesses to achieve his goal. And then I thought about what Xemnas and Young Xehanort said regarding this matter, and something that comes to my mind is...has this been going on from further back than we realize? I mean, think about it! Xemnas might have sent a certain number of Organization members to Castle Oblivion to root out the traitors within their ranks, but what if this was also a possible means of luring in Sora and Riku? What if Xehanort had planned for Sora and Riku to come to Castle Oblivion, thus ordering Xemnas to send the certain number of Organization members that he sent? If this were the case, then Xehanort probably did this to test both Sora and Riku's strengths, to see if they would be fitting enough to become Seekers of Darkness! Xemnas himself said that some of the members were inadequate, and that they needed to be replaced! So what if he devised the whole scheme in Castle Oblivion to draw in Sora and Riku to eliminate the traitors within their ranks without them having to sully their hands, while also having the added bonus of determining whether they would be suitable candidates to bear a part of Xehanort's heart? In Riku's case, it would be even more so, considering that Ansem was haunting him, and in doing so, he might have been trying to force Riku into submission, thus turning him over into a Seeker! Riku clearly overcomed Ansem, and so that's when Xehanort lost interest in him, since he had developed a resistance to darkness! Sora though, was still ripe for the taking! By making Sora lose his memories, Xehanort might have wanted to see if Sora would become even more powerful while attempting to organize the whole mess that was his memory loss during his journey in Castle Oblivion! If that were so, then Xehanort would come to realize that even with Sora's memories gone, he'd still be a force to be reckoned with, and so that would make him even more suitable to be a Seeker of Darkness! Young Xehanort stated that they had tried to make Roxas into a Seeker, but he had gained awareness of himself, so that was rendered void as well! And so, the only candidate left was Sora! With Sora being the only other viable candidate that was weak against the darkness, Xehanort decided to put the final act of his plan into motion, therefore making sure he'd have a hand in Sora and Riku's Mark Of Mastery exam, therefore trapping Sora and bringing him to the point of being swallowed by the darkness! If it hadn't been for Lea, Sora would have become a Seeker, but even with the outcome of things, Xehanort didn't seem to be at all bothered by the results of his actions! Could this mean there was one more candidate aside from Sora that we don't know of? Good lord, so much to compile in my brain! X_X But I'm really glad I typed this out, because this was something I wanted to post here all day! So then, what do you all think of this? I know, I know, I probably have some things wrong in some areas, but hey, I did my best! Heh. 'Bout time you noticed. That is what Marluxia was used for. To eliminate those that did not qualify. Marluxia was, but there must be a way to clear the field of weeds so the wheat can be harvested. He had to be uprooted with the rest of the weeds, but he was the only wheat to do so. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted December 31, 2015 Heh. 'Bout time you noticed. That is what Marluxia was used for. To eliminate those that did not qualify. Marluxia was, but there must be a way to clear the field of weeds so the wheat can be harvested. He had to be uprooted with the rest of the weeds, but he was the only wheat to do so. Ah, I see what you mean! I'm guessing that after everything going on in Castle Oblivion had come to a close, Young Xehanort may have gone to retrieve Marluxia! It could explain why his Nobodies appear in Kingdom Hearts III! Well, at least from what we've seen of the Kingdom Of Corona footage! With that being the case, i imagine Young Xehanort must have gone back to retrieve Marluxia after Kingdom Hearts II! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites